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Re: MXXXVII - Diffusion of Power (D4)
« Reply #1500 on: February 16, 2014, 08:07:43 pm »

Does anyone oppose to me setting up a claim order for cop results for today, since I'm the closest thing to an IC we have? If not, I will absolutely do this. I do not want to go into later in the day to have scum the ability to pop up with a fakeclaim.


I oppose this.

I am far from convinced that we should actually claim--it hurts are chances of winning in the long run.

I'm also far from convinced your town. Actually, I could easily see you and PPS as scum, having decided during the night that you would be all against him today for good measure.
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Re: MXXXVII - Diffusion of Power (D4)
« Reply #1501 on: February 16, 2014, 08:09:06 pm »

Also I do think it's safest to unvote!
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Re: MXXXVII - Diffusion of Power (D4)
« Reply #1502 on: February 16, 2014, 08:10:15 pm »

Faust has been a pretty top town read for m for a long time though.

Why is this?

Also, what do you think of Faust and PPS giving PPS towncred for all of his correct town reads? It's pretty bogus, right?
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« Reply #1503 on: February 16, 2014, 08:10:35 pm »

And I can't really make a list. I think faust is town, I know TA is only scum if PPS is scum too, PPS is scummy so this seems decently likely, no idea on Arch or Scotty or Ahoppy.
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Re: MXXXVII - Diffusion of Power (D4)
« Reply #1504 on: February 16, 2014, 08:11:27 pm »

Does anyone oppose to me setting up a claim order for cop results for today, since I'm the closest thing to an IC we have? If not, I will absolutely do this. I do not want to go into later in the day to have scum the ability to pop up with a fakeclaim.


I oppose this.

I am far from convinced that we should actually claim--it hurts are chances of winning in the long run.

I'm also far from convinced your town. Actually, I could easily see you and PPS as scum, having decided during the night that you would be all against him today for good measure.

Not massclaim -- claim N3 cop results.

You and Faust have been trying to discredit me since D3, now. Lots of "Man, TA makes NO sense, if it wasn't for PPS, we totally would lynch him right now". It's trying to discredit me, nothing else.
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Re: MXXXVII - Diffusion of Power (D4)
« Reply #1505 on: February 16, 2014, 08:12:09 pm »

And I can't really make a list. I think faust is town, I know TA is only scum if PPS is scum too, PPS is scummy so this seems decently likely, no idea on Arch or Scotty or Ahoppy.

It's D4, it's about time to be able to make a list. How do you not have reads on half of the players alive on D4?
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Re: MXXXVII - Diffusion of Power (D4)
« Reply #1506 on: February 16, 2014, 08:14:13 pm »

Faust has been a pretty top town read for m for a long time though.

Why is this?

Also, what do you think of Faust and PPS giving PPS towncred for all of his correct town reads? It's pretty bogus, right?

I've generally agreed with his opinions, and I think he's acting like his town self. I've seen town faust a lot lately.
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Re: MXXXVII - Diffusion of Power (D4)
« Reply #1507 on: February 16, 2014, 08:15:34 pm »

Scott, Archetype, Ahoppy: I think you guys are the townies. Who do you think scum is?
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« Reply #1508 on: February 16, 2014, 08:15:41 pm »

And I can't really make a list. I think faust is town, I know TA is only scum if PPS is scum too, PPS is scummy so this seems decently likely, no idea on Arch or Scotty or Ahoppy.

It's D4, it's about time to be able to make a list. How do you not have reads on half of the players alive on D4?

Because half the players alive haven't said anything of consequence since Day 1.
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« Reply #1509 on: February 16, 2014, 08:16:32 pm »

And I can't really make a list. I think faust is town, I know TA is only scum if PPS is scum too, PPS is scummy so this seems decently likely, no idea on Arch or Scotty or Ahoppy.

It's D4, it's about time to be able to make a list. How do you not have reads on half of the players alive on D4?

Because half the players alive haven't said anything of consequence since Day 1.

Ahoppy and Archetype were major wagons D1. Surely you should be able to glean something from that?

Do the end of days D1 and D2 feel like we were close to a correct lynch?
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Re: MXXXVII - Diffusion of Power (D4)
« Reply #1510 on: February 16, 2014, 08:17:05 pm »

Does anyone oppose to me setting up a claim order for cop results for today, since I'm the closest thing to an IC we have? If not, I will absolutely do this. I do not want to go into later in the day to have scum the ability to pop up with a fakeclaim.


I oppose this.

I am far from convinced that we should actually claim--it hurts are chances of winning in the long run.

I'm also far from convinced your town. Actually, I could easily see you and PPS as scum, having decided during the night that you would be all against him today for good measure.

Not massclaim -- claim N3 cop results.

You and Faust have been trying to discredit me since D3, now. Lots of "Man, TA makes NO sense, if it wasn't for PPS, we totally would lynch him right now". It's trying to discredit me, nothing else.

I'm not discrediting you, I'm trying to think what I think.
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Re: MXXXVII - Diffusion of Power (D4)
« Reply #1511 on: February 16, 2014, 08:17:39 pm »

Ok. What do you think about the forced claim order for potential N3 cop results?
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Re: MXXXVII - Diffusion of Power (D4)
« Reply #1512 on: February 16, 2014, 08:18:54 pm »

And I can't really make a list. I think faust is town, I know TA is only scum if PPS is scum too, PPS is scummy so this seems decently likely, no idea on Arch or Scotty or Ahoppy.

It's D4, it's about time to be able to make a list. How do you not have reads on half of the players alive on D4?

Because half the players alive haven't said anything of consequence since Day 1.

Ahoppy and Archetype were major wagons D1. Surely you should be able to glean something from that?

Do the end of days D1 and D2 feel like we were close to a correct lynch?

I remember that, I said since Day 1, they haven't really done anyhting or been part of the conversation. This has to be a scummier trait than a townier one, come to think of it.

I don't know if we were close to a correct lynch either of those days. We're suffering from mass disinterest from most of the players who continue to live.
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Re: MXXXVII - Diffusion of Power (D4)
« Reply #1513 on: February 16, 2014, 08:19:06 pm »

Like, leaving scum the ability to swoop in whenever they want to with a fake result seems pretty undesirable.
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Re: MXXXVII - Diffusion of Power (D4)
« Reply #1514 on: February 16, 2014, 08:19:17 pm »

Ok. What do you think about the forced claim order for potential N3 cop results?

I don't even understand the question, what!?
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Re: MXXXVII - Diffusion of Power (D4)
« Reply #1515 on: February 16, 2014, 08:20:19 pm »

Oh, okay yeah. Well, okay, everyone with any result should claim. On that, I agree, if that's all you were asking for.

I don't really think you need to design some order for it. In fact I would prefer if you didn't, but I see why YOU might want that.
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« Reply #1516 on: February 16, 2014, 08:20:31 pm »

And I can't really make a list. I think faust is town, I know TA is only scum if PPS is scum too, PPS is scummy so this seems decently likely, no idea on Arch or Scotty or Ahoppy.

It's D4, it's about time to be able to make a list. How do you not have reads on half of the players alive on D4?

Because half the players alive haven't said anything of consequence since Day 1.

Ahoppy and Archetype were major wagons D1. Surely you should be able to glean something from that?

Do the end of days D1 and D2 feel like we were close to a correct lynch?

I remember that, I said since Day 1, they haven't really done anyhting or been part of the conversation. This has to be a scummier trait than a townier one, come to think of it.

I don't know if we were close to a correct lynch either of those days. We're suffering from mass disinterest from most of the players who continue to live.

Has it, though? I mean, Jimmmmm suffered from the same, and he was town.

I think we are bickering, I think you are scum and you are not going to dissuade me, so I don't think us talking past each other does anything more than clutter up the thread.

Looking forward to everyone checking in.
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Re: MXXXVII - Diffusion of Power (D4)
« Reply #1517 on: February 16, 2014, 08:21:37 pm »

Oh, okay yeah. Well, okay, everyone with any result should claim. On that, I agree, if that's all you were asking for.

I don't really think you need to design some order for it. In fact I would prefer if you didn't, but I see why YOU might want that.

I mean, scum agenda will absolutely change if they know town has a result first. It's best to counteract that.
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Re: MXXXVII - Diffusion of Power (D4)
« Reply #1518 on: February 16, 2014, 08:21:42 pm »

I really don't think I'm bickering with you, i's actually nice to have someone to talk to about things for a change. Please don't stop!
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« Reply #1519 on: February 16, 2014, 08:23:16 pm »

I guess bickering was a bad word choice, I just meant that we clearly disagree and that's not going to change. I'm happy to talk if something interesting comes up for sure. Hopefully I will be able to maintain my activity level through all of today :P
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« Reply #1520 on: February 16, 2014, 08:24:14 pm »

I guess bickering was a bad word choice, I just meant that we clearly disagree and that's not going to change. I'm happy to talk if something interesting comes up for sure. Hopefully I will be able to maintain my activity level through all of today :P

Ugh, no it might change, I don't know for sure what I think!
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« Reply #1521 on: February 16, 2014, 08:25:15 pm »

I guess bickering was a bad word choice, I just meant that we clearly disagree and that's not going to change. I'm happy to talk if something interesting comes up for sure. Hopefully I will be able to maintain my activity level through all of today :P

Ugh, no it might change, I don't know for sure what I think!

Haha I don't think I will convince you that you're scum.
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Re: MXXXVII - Diffusion of Power (D4)
« Reply #1522 on: February 16, 2014, 08:25:41 pm »

I know what you mean about claim order and scum and all that I just doubt it will matter, but it could matter if you're scum and you engineer it in some beneficial way. Obviously that doesn't matter to you.
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Re: MXXXVII - Diffusion of Power (D4)
« Reply #1523 on: February 16, 2014, 08:26:11 pm »

Oh, well then no.
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Re: MXXXVII - Diffusion of Power (D4)
« Reply #1524 on: February 16, 2014, 08:26:52 pm »

I know what you mean about claim order and scum and all that I just doubt it will matter, but it could matter if you're scum and you engineer it in some beneficial way. Obviously that doesn't matter to you.

I guess, but some order is better than no order, cause even if the order has all 3 scum going last, it won't really change, since scum could have just sat back and waited, anyways.
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