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Re: MXXXVII - Diffusion of Power (D1)
« Reply #550 on: January 21, 2014, 10:42:55 am »

Reads! Without a post-count (for now).

Jimmmmm
AHoppy
Robz888 - lite town (town!Robz doesn't care about D1 at all)
Twistedarcher
Archetype
Voltaire - me!
yuma
chairs - medium town (forgot about game)
Eevee - smallest of town reads (because if he is scum, he described exactly what he is doing to look town)
faust - town (unabashedly different though I think also wrong about things)
scott_pilgrim - lite town (considering no-lynch), also newbie D1
pingpongsam - now see this one is tricky, because I'd say town for being confrontational/different D1, but I looked at pps's other games and that appears to be his scum meta. Would probably vote to lynch if the choices came down to that or no lynch, but probably not otherwise.
Teproc

Others might get eliminated for post-count, but I'm just so worried about doing that when there's so much theory for scum to inflate their post counts.

I will say I am happy with my AHoppy vote right now (though I'd be happy with other votes too).
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Re: MXXXVII - Diffusion of Power (D1)
« Reply #551 on: January 21, 2014, 10:50:35 am »

I must have missed the line of reasoning on AHoppy. I'd call him null but I've not seen anyone describing him as either alignment.
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Re: MXXXVII - Diffusion of Power (D1)
« Reply #552 on: January 21, 2014, 10:53:08 am »

Also, I'd say of the 3 whole games I was Town I got crucified D1 for being strange and I got grilled considerably in another for being the new guy who didn't know what the hell he was doing. So, you have exactly one game where I was Town and maybe not confrontational. In all other games I've been scum. So, I'd say your meta pool on me is largely slanted towards saying I must be scum because more often than not I have been.
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Re: MXXXVII - Diffusion of Power (D1)
« Reply #553 on: January 21, 2014, 10:53:58 am »

So if TA were to flip scum would you assume or just lean towards me being town?

No, I did not say if and only if.  I just said if TA is town, you are more likely scum.

Well, I guess what I am asking is whether or not you perceive the inverse to be true.
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Re: MXXXVII - Diffusion of Power (D1)
« Reply #554 on: January 21, 2014, 10:59:02 am »

I must have missed the line of reasoning on AHoppy. I'd call him null but I've not seen anyone describing him as either alignment.

That's more or less it. Scum is rarely obv!scum D1, so lynch a null.
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Re: MXXXVII - Diffusion of Power (D1)
« Reply #555 on: January 21, 2014, 11:06:24 am »

Here's a post count, not including pre-game :

Twistedarcher : 66
yuma : 56
Jimmmmm : 50
pingpongsam : 44
faust : 43
Voltaire : 43
nkirbit/Teproc : 41
Eevee : 16
Archetype : 15
AHoppy : 13
scott_pilgrim : 11
Robz : 11
chairs : 8

So we have 7 active players and 5 lurkers (more or less). Robz lurking on day 1 is probably townie, chairs just lurks in general, don't know about AHoppy, Archetype and scott_pilgrim. Eevee lurks day  1in both alignments I think.

On the other side, TA, yuma, Jimmmmm, Voltaire, pps and faust being active seems generally null, maybe slightly townie for faust.
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Re: MXXXVII - Diffusion of Power (D1)
« Reply #556 on: January 21, 2014, 11:10:31 am »

Wow. I feel like I've been lurking badly in this game, and I'm the third highest poster?? In your last sentence I saw my name and thought you must be naming inactive players. Obviously something needs to get this game going.
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Re: MXXXVII - Diffusion of Power (D1)
« Reply #557 on: January 21, 2014, 11:17:08 am »

Well this is based on post count only so it's not perfect. Like, I don't feel like I've been particularly active this game either, but there is such a clear-cut here that I pointed it out.
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Re: MXXXVII - Diffusion of Power (D1)
« Reply #558 on: January 21, 2014, 11:18:14 am »

Voltaire, I don't believe that eevee would be unafraid to act in this way if he were scum -- I don't get the town read from him.
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Re: MXXXVII - Diffusion of Power (D1)
« Reply #559 on: January 21, 2014, 11:25:35 am »

Voltaire, I don't believe that eevee would be unafraid to act in this way if he were scum -- I don't get the town read from him.

"Smallest of town reads". I think there are better lynch options today. It's not like I have a strong read. But it is on the town side.
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Re: MXXXVII - Diffusion of Power (D1)
« Reply #560 on: January 21, 2014, 11:28:07 am »

Voltaire, I don't believe that eevee would be unafraid to act in this way if he were scum -- I don't get the town read from him.

"Smallest of town reads". I think there are better lynch options today. It's not like I have a strong read. But it is on the town side.

Who are your top lynch preferences?
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Re: MXXXVII - Diffusion of Power (D1)
« Reply #561 on: January 21, 2014, 11:29:41 am »

Anyone who's name isn't crossed out in my most recent post, with PPS on the bottom of that list. I want to re-read the thread today based on a thinking I have, which will let me order that list better.
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Re: MXXXVII - Diffusion of Power (D1)
« Reply #562 on: January 21, 2014, 11:29:57 am »

oh god "whose" kill me now
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Re: MXXXVII - Diffusion of Power (D1)
« Reply #563 on: January 21, 2014, 11:31:19 am »

oh god "whose" kill me now

Ok... policy grammar vote: voltaire
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Re: MXXXVII - Diffusion of Power (D1)
« Reply #564 on: January 21, 2014, 11:44:15 am »

36 hours until deadline!
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Re: MXXXVII - Diffusion of Power (D1)
« Reply #565 on: January 21, 2014, 11:46:39 am »

Now that I have 3 votes on me, I'd love for someone voting for me to actually say why...Scott's reason was underwhelming (well, at least in my eyes) and I'm not sure why there's been a wagon forming on me for seemingly little reason.
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Re: MXXXVII - Diffusion of Power (D1)
« Reply #566 on: January 21, 2014, 11:49:45 am »

Now that I have 3 votes on me, I'd love for someone voting for me to actually say why...Scott's reason was underwhelming (well, at least in my eyes) and I'm not sure why there's been a wagon forming on me for seemingly little reason.

This is kinda a good point. scott's actually appears to be the most sensible, at least it has some logic to it, even if I don't think it is the best logic...

chairs was a joke vote. HEY CHAIRS!!! You want to be voting for twisted for real?

And eevee's... well I think eevee is scummy... I guess no one else wants to vote for voltaire for having bad grammar? vote: eevee
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Re: MXXXVII - Diffusion of Power (D1)
« Reply #567 on: January 21, 2014, 11:52:43 am »

yuma is overstating his confidence on my scumminess to get a lynch through, which I'm not too happy about.
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Re: MXXXVII - Diffusion of Power (D1)
« Reply #568 on: January 21, 2014, 11:56:39 am »

What I'm worried about is the amount of people coming out with town reads / slight town reads on eevee while I appear to be the most viable alternative lynch...not a fan at all!

Eevee, I'd loooove for you to respond to my most recent post about you. Actually for anyone to respond to it..it was the most analysis we've had to date I think yet only teproc bothered to respond!!
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Re: MXXXVII - Diffusion of Power (D1)
« Reply #569 on: January 21, 2014, 11:57:42 am »

yuma is overstating his confidence on my scumminess to get a lynch through, which I'm not too happy about.

I am?
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Re: MXXXVII - Diffusion of Power (D1)
« Reply #570 on: January 21, 2014, 11:57:57 am »

yuma is overstating his confidence on my scumminess to get a lynch through, which I'm not too happy about.

I agree. I do not think I want to vote Eevee today. Definitely like it better than the TA "wagon" though, so should it come down to the lynch being one of those two, I might vote Eevee.

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Re: MXXXVII - Diffusion of Power (D1)
« Reply #571 on: January 21, 2014, 11:59:11 am »

yuma is overstating his confidence on my scumminess to get a lynch through, which I'm not too happy about.

I am?
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I wonder what this makes me, then...and it's interesting that he's making this point about Yuma but not me, while voting me but not Yuma..
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Re: MXXXVII - Diffusion of Power (D1)
« Reply #572 on: January 21, 2014, 12:01:22 pm »

TA, considering your analysis post:

The next step, of course, which I haven't taken, is to go back and read games where Eevee was town, and see how exclusive this trait is to his town games, if at all. I will hopefully get to that soon.

It would be really great if you did that, because as-is, I don't take much from your analysis because it might just be the way Eevee generally plays D1.
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Re: MXXXVII - Diffusion of Power (D1)
« Reply #573 on: January 21, 2014, 12:03:09 pm »

Ok, I will do that if I get to my computer today (no promises though, it's a snowday!!!!)
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Re: MXXXVII - Diffusion of Power (D1)
« Reply #574 on: January 21, 2014, 12:09:14 pm »

Updating this list with my think - which is that there's been, like, no voting. Scum wants things to stall out/game not get started. They can do that by lurking and not voting. So looking at Teproc's post count:

Twistedarcher : 66 (we'll take him out for post count AND for helping move the game forward, if he's scum he'll trip up later, and it'd be horrible to lynch one of town's biggest contributor if that's the case)
yuma : 56
Jimmmmm : 50
pingpongsam : 44
faust : 43
Voltaire : 43
nkirbit/Teproc : 41
Eevee : 16
Archetype : 15
AHoppy : 13
scott_pilgrim : 11
Robz : 11
chairs : 8

and my own analysis of who appears to be voting usefully (subjective):

Twistedarcher : yes
yuma : yes
Jimmmmm : yes
pingpongsam : no
faust : yes
Voltaire : yes
nkirbit/Teproc : yes
Eevee : yes
Archetype : yes
AHoppy : no
scott_pilgrim : no
Robz : no
chairs : yes

and distill them into magic, and I'm left with:

Jimmmmm
AHoppy
Robz888 - lite town (town!Robz doesn't care about D1 at all)
Twistedarcher - see above
Archetype
Voltaire - me!
yuma - don't lynch yuma D1, also posting/contributing, etc. etc.
chairs - medium town (forgot about game)
Eevee - smallest of town reads (because if he is scum, he described exactly what he is doing to look town)
faust - town (unabashedly different though I think also wrong about things)
scott_pilgrim - lite town (considering no-lynch), also newbie D1
pingpongsam - now see this one is tricky, because I'd say town for being confrontational/different D1, but I looked at pps's other games and that appears to be his scum meta. Would probably vote to lynch if the choices came down to that or no lynch, but probably not otherwise.
Teproc

and I'm left with a lynch pool that looks like this, in order:

AHoppy
Archetype
Teproc
pps
Jimmmmm

I think. Would like to lynch AHoppy/Archetype/Teproc mostly, more the first two.

I wanna look at the wagons we had (TA/Eevee/PPS), but I doubt I'll get anything crazy helpful from that.
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