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[MiX]

The LL votes weren't good.

Do you prefer for me to not self-pres? No, I'm not doing that. I clearly have better reads than town.

The town out of ash/yuma needs to stop tunneling and needs to see how their tunnel got this far.

[WestCoastDidds]

WTF?!

This is so weird

The previous night ended early so it had to have been a choice not to kill. But 2 nights in a row makes no sense.

So confused...

[ashersky]

A hidden doctor's insane and wins the game on the spot why the hell are you even considering that to be a reality.

Why do you think I didn't start the day voting?

There's no list of things people need to check to be scum, otherwise I would always be scum, but I'm not.

Or a hidden doctor is amazing and wants to let us catch scum on our own and is also literally laughing out loud.  You know I don't actually think there is a doctor because I am voting for you.  But your refusal to paint complete pictures and include all options is scummy because scum don't want town to think things through or completely.

I don't know why you didn't start the day voting.  Probably because you thought it would look scummy and you already have enough issues with that.

Someone could make a list.  Sounds like a fun thread.

[Swowl]

no mas votes for a moment please.
given the 2 votes on the person they are on, a fucking quick hammer today on mix would be the worst if they flip green.

[Swowl]

This game's solved from my perspective, I'm gonna say why Swan and Didds are 100% town in a bit, which means I know the 3 lynches we can do.

I can do a freebie, Dylan is town because of their claim. No context here.

Just looked at VCA, it says LaLight's obv!town lol, this is why we no lynch so that town's not divided. Obviously in retrospect a mislynch's better than nothing but that's because scum's throwing.

not asking for a mix wall - I mean feel free if you want - but i ran a pretty deep vca on LL and came to the exact opposite conclusion. so just broad strokes would be appreciated on why you think LL was obv town plz

[Swowl]

Everything you say is a lie or an excuse.

The LL votes weren't good.

Your Dylan is town thing is misleading -- a hidden doctor saving lives means he's scum.

Your vote is WIFOM and self-preservationist.

If there was a list of things that are scummy, you are checking every single one.

you're joking about the dylan thing being misleading right?

[Swowl]

If there was a list of things that are scummy, you are checking every single one.

you are checking a few off yourself their partner

[Dylan32]

Vote: yuma. At some point we will quit trying to be fancy and will actually lynch the person who throughout the game made the strongest defenses of lynched scum and has been one of the two or three people that has pushed the hardest against town.  I hope it's today.

[Swowl]

Dylan - you trust me enough at this point to entertain a plan? I would kind of require your support to make it work.

[scolapasta]

DatSwan, early on in Day 1 or Day 2, I think you said something about you being an IC (I'll look for it later if I have t0). Can you explain the reasoning?

I think right I agree with Dylan and we should lynch yuma.

Vote: yuma

I could probably go eith ash as well, mix less so.

I'm on board with Didds and Dylan as town. Waiting to hear the above, but lean Swan as well.

[scolapasta]

Oh, and I also don't het the double no nk. I mean, could there actually be a doctor?

Going back to my last post where I finally figured no lynch was a good move yesterday, I don't see how scum doesn't kill last night since we didn't. Tired now, but might redo that analysis tomorrow.

[scolapasta]

no mas votes for a moment please.
given the 2 votes on the person they are on, a fucking quick hammer today on mix would be the worst if they flip green.

Oh misread the no mas votes as only for mix. but just in case you mean for anyone:

unvote

ready to go back to yuma.

[scolapasta]

A hidden doctor's insane and wins the game on the spot why the hell are you even considering that to be a reality.

How does the is win the game on the spot?

[Swowl]

1) hidden doctor doesn't exist. If they do, they claim now. we win. if they wait one more day we do not win by GTD. there is no reason for them to of not said anything yesterday. it was a insta-win for town if they did.

2) thank you just trying to prevent quick hammers

3) I said I was MIC. I don't remember which day. It is a forum slang joke. It stands for MiX-IC. And it is based on the fact that I was the leading push for dylan when there was no reason to compltely switch any of the open wagons over to him if we were buddies combined with me stating I had switched from Dylan to Raptor (now given I did not have a chance to actually hammer raptor, but still). I mean you can argue it if you want, but I doubt I am/should be on anyone's radar at this point.

[ashersky]

The "insta-win" argument is based on Dylan being the liar.  Doctor claims, 1v1 with Dylan, if we lynch correctly we win. 

That's not the same as what either DatSwan or MiX are saying, which helps DatSwan creep up the scumminess ladder.

MiX is the last scum.  If he's not, it's got to be Dylan due to hidden doctor.

[ashersky]

1) hidden doctor doesn't exist. If they do, they claim now. we win. if they wait one more day we do not win by GTD. there is no reason for them to of not said anything yesterday. it was a insta-win for town if they did.

This seems super, super wrong to me.

A doctor claim does not insta-win.  Here are a few reasons, off the top of my head:

1) we lynch the doctor, so the game continues
2) we lynch the cop, so the game continues
3) the doctor is actually a VT

I see after writing this that your wording is not "insta-win" but just "win."  That's probably more correct, but not definitive. 

What is GTD?

[Swowl]

GTD means guaranteed (poker slang sorry)

3) VT would never claim that here
2 and 1) so only skum claims it or it is real..... soooooo dylan or claim.

why are you fighting me on this?

[ashersky]

GTD means guaranteed (poker slang sorry)

3) VT would never claim that here
2 and 1) so only skum claims it or it is real..... soooooo dylan or claim.

why are you fighting me on this?

Ah.  I was trying to find a G word to go in front of "the Doctor."

3) I might, as VT, to spite the town not lynching MiX as I've pointed out.
2 and 1) we agree, sets up a 1v1 with Dylan and a win.

My point is that we don't need the claim to win and not claiming has been keeping the game going and giving town chances to correctly lynch.  There are players that would not claim for a variety of reasons, including what I've just said, or not realizing they should, or not trusting the players who say they should and so expect the opposite to be true, trusting players who say don't claim, playing it safe.

Why are YOU fighting ME on this?

[scolapasta]

GTD means guaranteed (poker slang sorry)

3) VT would never claim that here
2 and 1) so only skum claims it or it is real..... soooooo dylan or claim.

why are you fighting me on this?

Ah.  I was trying to find a G word to go in front of "the Doctor."

3) I might, as VT, to spite the town not lynching MiX as I've pointed out.
2 and 1) we agree, sets up a 1v1 with Dylan and a win.

My point is that we don't need the claim to win and not claiming has been keeping the game going and giving town chances to correctly lynch.  There are players that would not claim for a variety of reasons, including what I've just said, or not realizing they should, or not trusting the players who say they should and so expect the opposite to be true, trusting players who say don't claim, playing it safe.

Why are YOU fighting ME on this?

this doesn't make any sense to me. UNLESS someone things Dylan could be lying AND be town, there is NO reason not for Doctor to claim.

If someone out there is doctor, they could have decided to wait yesterday, but I don't understand the why they'd wait another day. That said, not everyone has chimed in today.

And claiming out it spite? I mean, c'mon. If that's really something you'd do, I mean why shouldn't we just lynch you to remove that X-factor?

[scolapasta]

Also my lynch order has been solidified:

yuma > ash > mix  > dylan > swan > didds > scolapasta

[Swowl]

GTD means guaranteed (poker slang sorry)

3) VT would never claim that here
2 and 1) so only skum claims it or it is real..... soooooo dylan or claim.

why are you fighting me on this?

Ah.  I was trying to find a G word to go in front of "the Doctor."

3) I might, as VT, to spite the town not lynching MiX as I've pointed out.
2 and 1) we agree, sets up a 1v1 with Dylan and a win.

My point is that we don't need the claim to win and not claiming has been keeping the game going and giving town chances to correctly lynch.  There are players that would not claim for a variety of reasons, including what I've just said, or not realizing they should, or not trusting the players who say they should and so expect the opposite to be true, trusting players who say don't claim, playing it safe.

Why are YOU fighting ME on this?

this doesn't make any sense to me. UNLESS someone things Dylan could be lying AND be town, there is NO reason not for Doctor to claim.

If someone out there is doctor, they could have decided to wait yesterday, but I don't understand the why they'd wait another day. That said, not everyone has chimed in today.

And claiming out it spite? I mean, c'mon. If that's really something you'd do, I mean why shouldn't we just lynch you to remove that X-factor?

you quoted me. but are you talking to me. those are literally the points I am making.

[Swowl]

Also my lynch order has been solidified:

yuma > ash > mix  > dylan > swan > didds > scolapasta

explain my and didds order in this. in detail. you got time.

[Swowl]

GTD means guaranteed (poker slang sorry)

3) VT would never claim that here
2 and 1) so only skum claims it or it is real..... soooooo dylan or claim.

why are you fighting me on this?

Ah.  I was trying to find a G word to go in front of "the Doctor."

3) I might, as VT, to spite the town not lynching MiX as I've pointed out.
2 and 1) we agree, sets up a 1v1 with Dylan and a win.

My point is that we don't need the claim to win and not claiming has been keeping the game going and giving town chances to correctly lynch.  There are players that would not claim for a variety of reasons, including what I've just said, or not realizing they should, or not trusting the players who say they should and so expect the opposite to be true, trusting players who say don't claim, playing it safe.

Why are YOU fighting ME on this?

this doesn't make any sense to me. UNLESS someone things Dylan could be lying AND be town, there is NO reason not for Doctor to claim.

If someone out there is doctor, they could have decided to wait yesterday, but I don't understand the why they'd wait another day. That said, not everyone has chimed in today.

And claiming out it spite? I mean, c'mon. If that's really something you'd do, I mean why shouldn't we just lynch you to remove that X-factor?

you quoted me. but are you talking to me. those are literally the points I am making.

nvm you quoted ash mb

[Swowl]

Also my lynch order has been solidified:

yuma > ash > mix  > dylan > swan > didds > scolapasta

explain my and didds order in this. in detail. you got time.

wait hold on more importantly how in the hell is dylan more lynchable than me?

[scolapasta]

Yeah, quoting ash, but you caught that.

You're right on dylan - swan, that was a typo, it should've been swan > dylan.

I'm not going to explain any detail tonight, as it's 1am on a work night. But honestly I'm not sure there's much detail as this only showed order, not distance.

Here it is again, with distance, where the fewer >, the easier it would be for me to swap them.


yuma > ash >>> mix  >>>>> swan > dylan > didds >>∞>> scolapasta

Hope that makes sense.