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Re: Kirian's Bracket, Week 4
« Reply #25 on: April 18, 2012, 04:25:57 am »
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If we hear nothing from any of them by Friday, I'll look into replacing them, though I may advertise for potential alternates before that.

I'm potentially interested in being an alternate if the other participants don't pan out.
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Re: Kirian's Bracket, Week 4
« Reply #26 on: April 18, 2012, 11:37:23 am »
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O defeats insomniac 6 to 1. The following games are posted out of order because I'm too lazy to figure out which came when.

Game 1: O-30 Insomniac-23
Game 2: O-45 Insomniac-34
Game 3: O-45 Insomniac-18
Game 4: O-45 Insomniac-30  (see a pattern here??)
Game 5: O-63 Insomniac-27
Game 6: O-37 Insomniac-23
Game 7: O:-100 Insomniac-22   ----- I disconnect mid-game. Insomniac is gracious enough to rematch me instead of taking a win.
Game 8: O:-100 Insomniac-2     ----- I disconnect again. Both the last two games felt more competitive than the first six, and I felt it would be unfair to attempt another rematch after making him wait so long these two times.


Game 1:http://councilroom.com/game?game_id=game-20120417-171326-7f8bba80.html
Game 2: http://councilroom.com/game?game_id=game-20120417-171803-bf915a3c.html
Game 3: http://councilroom.com/game?game_id=game-20120417-173707-33732252.html
Game 4: http://councilroom.com/game?game_id=game-20120417-170031-fa1f76eb.html
Game 5: http://councilroom.com/game?game_id=game-20120417-165503-f05d077f.html
Game 6: http://councilroom.com/game?game_id=game-20120417-172835-fd1f506a.html

Analysis to be edited in in a bit. I strongly recommend that anyone interested look at games 1 and 4. In both these games transmute is a critical part of the game, supporting the notion that when you're playing transmute in its set it really becomes not the worst card.

I'd like to thank Insomniac for being so understanding of my connection problems and accepting a rematch for the first disconnect. As a completely unrelated sidenote, my phone line (which supplies my internet access) is officially dead. This might cause slight issues for my remake against Tmoiy (if I can ever find him) and my next round if it is not resolved quickly..
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Re: Kirian's Bracket, Week 4
« Reply #27 on: April 19, 2012, 10:07:17 am »
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Axxle and I have played 4 and will finish up tonight. here are the results thus far, Yuma 4, Axxle 0. I'll update tonight.

Update: Axxle won 2 of the last three, yuma won 1 for a total of:

yuma 5 (10pts) Axxle 2 (4pts)

Axxle 28 yuma 45 Potions are ignored for Mountebank. My watchtower blocks two attacks. His don't block any. My extra Cartographers comes in handy as we Duchy jocky late.
Axxle 67 yuma 81 Colonies game with Possession and Familiar on board. I go into Bishop as a defense against being possessed and end up running Bishop the entire game. Axxle tries a transmute route and split Colonies with me but 26 VP make the difference.
Axxle 25 yuma 42 another familiar game with apothecaries around. An extra Rabble buy early was useful late, but I mostly won because Axxle had a hard time hitting $6 for golds. Swindler was really odd in this game
Axxle 15 yuma 27 University was the potion card of choice with Embassy and Hagglers on board. Schemes and Hagglers pile emptied quick and we both started a Duchy/Duke rush only to have Axxle accidentally end with 3 pile in buying the last Duchy. Oops. I think I still would have won, but it is hard to say. Edit: In hindsight I actually am not sure if I would have won. He seemed to be thinking of getting P. Stones and might have had great success there.
Axxle 40 yuma 8 Familiar game with chapel and cities obtained through university. My chapel was useless and I ended with all 6 curses that I received. Axxle played this game perfectly and deserved a bit of luck on the side after starting the set 0-4.
Axxle 26 yuma 25 Both open Remake/Silver with Golem as the only potion card used. Axxle got potions and Ghost Ship while I mostly went for money. I misclick with Courtyard prevented me from getting a Ghost Ship but I think Axxle would have taken it anyways.
Axxle 11 yuma 29 Ugly game with Familiar, IGG and Possession. My idea going into this was to get a Familiar, get as many IGG as possible, buy Possession early and get an early Province and then make my deck as messy as possible against Possession. As a result I was able to get some good turns out of Possession while his weren't too great. Ended on a 3 pile with Estates, Duchies and Curses running out.

All in all I am very pleased with these games. I was super worried about the alchemy round. Practicing with my brother angrybirds helped a lot and helped me appreciate the Alchemy cards much more. I don't think I will be vetoing them nearly as often as I had in the past.

Thanks to Axxle for the games and being so flexible.
« Last Edit: April 19, 2012, 11:31:33 pm by yuma »
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Re: Kirian's Bracket, Week 4
« Reply #28 on: April 19, 2012, 03:43:53 pm »
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Game 2: O-45 Insomniac-34
Game 3: O-45 Insomniac-18
Game 4: O-45 Insomniac-30  (see a pattern here??)

Enough of one that I actually had to go back and re-enter numbers into Challonge due to missing one of the 45s.
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Re: Kirian's Bracket, Week 4
« Reply #29 on: April 19, 2012, 09:43:05 pm »
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Re: Kirian's Bracket, Week 4
« Reply #30 on: April 20, 2012, 03:27:25 pm »
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MikeMike is MIA. I also think he was MIA for week 3s matches as well.
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Re: Kirian's Bracket, Week 4
« Reply #31 on: April 20, 2012, 06:38:00 pm »
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Sent A_S00 a PM on Tuesday the 17th, no response.
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Re: Kirian's Bracket, Week 4
« Reply #32 on: April 20, 2012, 10:36:56 pm »
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Carpe, michaeljb:  both noted.
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Re: Kirian's Bracket, Week 4
« Reply #33 on: April 22, 2012, 02:26:06 am »
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tlloyd wins 4, Jorbles wins 3

Game 1: Jorbles 14 - tlloyd 42
Herbalist can be a useful aid to an Alchemist deck, but it's not fast enough for Hunting Party.
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201204/21/game-20120421-183907-eff414d5.html

Game 2: Jorbles 29 - tlloyd 41
Turns out Mandarin/Mandarin/- is quite the decent opening in a Tournament game.
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201204/21/game-20120421-184518-938300e8.html

Game 3: Jorbles 61 - tlloyd 34
Of all the Alchemy cards - perhaps of all Dominion cards period - Vineyards gives me the most trouble. I have a huge blindspot for a Vineyards strategy, which Jorbles convincingly exploits.
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201204/21/game-20120421-185334-324b6f45.html

Game 4: tlloyd 16 - Jorbles 14
A straightforward Ironworks/Gardens game, where my first-player advantage is determinative.
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201204/21/game-20120421-185558-f340ac60.html

Game 5: Jorbles 24 - tlloyd 51
Jorbles gets off to a faster start with Apothecary, but Possession allows my Alchemist deck to more than make up the difference.
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201204/21/game-20120421-190710-43b34ed2.html

Game 6: Jorbles 43 - tlloyd 38
This was a weird one. I repeatedly miss on familiar, but don't mind so much as I'm comfortably Bishop-ing away curses. We both are gaining cards with University which we then cash in for VP with Bishops, but Jorbles' Familiars allow him to control the three-pile ending. That and some sub-optimal Bishop play by me (another card that gives me trouble) give Jorbles the win.
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201204/21/game-20120421-192322-7a29fb0f.html

Game 7: tlloyd 25 - Jorbles 31
This one made me mad. I key in on Possession/Governor as the key combo from the get-go but cannot for the life of me get to $6+P. Jorbles gets there first and easily overcomes my initial lead.
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201204/21/game-20120421-193046-1cb5a8b8.html

FYI, Possession appears in five of the seven games, and is a key card for the victor in two of those five.

Thanks for the games Jorbles!
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Re: Kirian's Bracket, Week 4
« Reply #34 on: April 22, 2012, 01:16:41 pm »
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In the Pacific Region, Tmoiy is inactive.  He hasn't logged on since April 12, so I don't know what's going on with him.
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Re: Kirian's Bracket, Week 4
« Reply #35 on: April 22, 2012, 02:07:19 pm »
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Game 2: Jorbles 29 - tlloyd 41
Turns out Mandarin/Mandarin/- is quite the decent opening in a Tournament game.
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201204/21/game-20120421-184518-938300e8.html
I'm not sure Mandarin/Mandarin decided the game I think it was more one of those games where the first to Followers decided it, but I don't think Mandarin/Mandarin was a bad idea on a 5/2 split.

Game 5: Jorbles 24 - tlloyd 51
Jorbles gets off to a faster start with Apothecary, but Possession allows my Alchemist deck to more than make up the difference.
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201204/21/game-20120421-190710-43b34ed2.html
Ugh, a perfect example of why I can't stand Possession. Anyhow I probably should have used one of my early $lots of money+Potion hands to buy a Possession myself instead of a Province. Then I could have disrupted his Alchemist setups, and may have been able to hold onto my lead.

Anyhow well played tlloyd it's too bad Possession dominated so many of the boards as I quite like Alchemy strategies without that card being involved. Thanks for the games!
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Re: Kirian's Bracket, Week 4
« Reply #36 on: April 23, 2012, 03:33:10 pm »
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Game 2: Jorbles 29 - tlloyd 41
Turns out Mandarin/Mandarin/- is quite the decent opening in a Tournament game.
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201204/21/game-20120421-184518-938300e8.html
I'm not sure Mandarin/Mandarin decided the game I think it was more one of those games where the first to Followers decided it, but I don't think Mandarin/Mandarin was a bad idea on a 5/2 split.

First of all, I have mischaracterized my opening. I actually opened Mandarin/Mandarin/Tournament/-. And looking over the log again I admit that it took me longer to reach $8 than I had anticipated with two Mandarins. However, the Mandarins helped me line up Provinces with my Tournaments, which may account for my being the first to win a Tournament and gain Followers. Also I know at least once I blocked your Tournaments with a Province in hand, and then placed that same Province in my next hand to block you again the next turn. So I think Mandarin works well with Tournament, but in this case it wasn't as dominant as I'd hoped. I wonder if a single Mandarin would be an improvement.
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Re: Kirian's Bracket, Week 4
« Reply #37 on: April 24, 2012, 08:16:53 am »
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BJ Penn Beats me 5 games to 2. Unfortunately I lost all the original logs and my commentary. So below are the councilroom logs as-is (the game order below id definately not right, but those are all the games nontheless).
Game 1 BJ Penn (32) vs mnavratil(5):
http://councilroom.com/game?game_id=game-20120419-184345-7da4d643.html

Game 2 mnavratil (45) vs. BJ Penn (32):
http://councilroom.com/game?game_id=game-20120419-183650-0b690a9d.html

Game 3 BJ Penn (46) vs mnavratil (15):
http://councilroom.com/game?game_id=game-20120419-183142-e2241e0a.html

Game 4 mnavratil (36) vs BJ Penn (25):
http://councilroom.com/game?game_id=game-20120419-182458-00b7504f.html

Game 5 BJ Penn(58) vs mnavratil(47):
http://councilroom.com/game?game_id=game-20120419-182027-477572eb.html

Game 6 BJ Penn(36) vs mnavratil(27):
http://councilroom.com/game?game_id=game-20120419-181613-f3e1b49e.html

Game 7 BJ Penn(42) vs mnavratil(16):
http://councilroom.com/game?game_id=game-20120419-180634-03281c08.html
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Re: Kirian's Bracket, Week 4
« Reply #38 on: April 29, 2012, 03:30:30 am »
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First of all, I'd like to thank Dsell for stepping in as a sub to make the tournament work, and for being a great sport, because we kept up some interesting conversation about our interesting games in the midst of me walloping him.

We've played our first five games, all of which I won, so it's 5-0 so far. The remaining games will happen soon.

Dsell proposed 6 alchemy cards per game and I agreed. You can see this has worked out well for me so far. I feel like Alchemy is my home turf. I have a mildly positive opinion of it as an expansion, I don't do anything to avoid or veto it, and I freaking love Possession.

The games so far:
rspeer 32 - Dsell 30: Minions split, my minions ineffectively counter Dsell's Alchemists, and I go for a Possession that wins it for me.
rspeer 45 - Dsell 29: It's a University/Vineyards race, but the star of the show is Herbalist.
rspeer 59 - Dsell 3: I could describe this game in terms of the dominant cards, which wouldn't do it justice. Instead let me describe the fact that I bought my first chapel on turn 8 and it was great.
rspeer 34 - Dsell 12: Mostly about the Sea Hags. Golem + Expand worked well.
rspeer 39 - Dsell 31: $7 Philosopher's Stone for the win! Actually, for the chance to break the PPR and then to win with a lucky hand. For a while I debated buying the last Duchy to tie instead.
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Re: Kirian's Bracket, Week 4
« Reply #39 on: April 30, 2012, 01:52:07 am »
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And the last two games are done. Final score: rspeer 6 - Dsell 1.

I forgot the log for game 6, which I won. I'll look for it on CR tomorrow. There was University/Vineyard, but there was also Governor. They both seemed really important despite their relative lack of synergy. At least University gains Governors fast.

And game 7 was rspeer 55 - Dsell 57. All Kingdom cards cost $4P or less. I tried to Develop Familiars into Golem + Scrying Pool, which sounds better than it is. Dsell just bought them the usual way and used them to good effect. A very tense endgame.
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Re: Kirian's Bracket, Week 4
« Reply #40 on: April 30, 2012, 04:31:42 am »
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Man, alchemy is rough. I really appreciated the games with rspeer and the conversations during games, he definitely showed me that I have a thing or eight to learn about to alchemy-dominated sets. That said, there were a couple heartbreakers in the set and I hope I didn't embarrass myself too much--several of the games were actually pretty close and tense, or at least were until near the end.

Game 1 - Total heartbreaker. Possession ended up being key, especially at the end with the vineyards hand. Huge mistake in breaking ppr on my part, I actually didn't realize that I was until immediately after I did.

Game 2 - rspeer is exactly right, herbalists were the star of the show. I knew they would be good but he got more, and sooner. Things looked good at first but he completely negated my ghost ships with a flood of herbalist/potion/vineyard buys quick and I just couldn't make up the difference.

Game 3 - Major embarrassment. I thought chapel/bridge might be slightly better than opening potion here, which was dead wrong. They also collided a ton. I was struggling to get to potion at first but then completely spaced and bought two in a row without realizing. I later bought the third thinking it was just my second. Of course I then had two hands with three potions and not much else. My gameplan looked a lot like his but I fell apart and he executed very well. The transmutes were a complete move of desperation to try and power up vineyards and snatch them before he could. Epic. Fail.

Game 4 - Looked good at first, but rspeer was right, expand was awesome and golem was a great enabler. I focused too much on apothecaries and just ended up spinning my wheels most of the game.

Game 5 - Another heartbreaker. I had next to no money, going for double tactician with conspirator (so did he). It worked well for a while and was really tense. It seemed to unravel as our decks grew larger though, that is until the philosopher's stone came from nowhere! He broke ppr but it was absolutely the right choice as my deck was pretty terrible and was not going to hit province without a tactician. Then of course his last turn was pretty crazy lucky, but I think he was going to get the win at that point anyway. Down 4-0, I was hoping he would go for the tie.  ::)

Game 6 - Another one that seemed pretty good at first, but then he just started running away with it. I'm not exactly sure what did it for him, but I think the golems and extra menageries must have helped.

Game 7 - Yay! And on my last chance to redeem myself. Fitting that it was a really tense game, too. I got out to a nice lead, but a couple of risky but smart plays allowed him to close the gap some at the end. I made a huge error not ending the game with a win on turn 25 by buying scrying pool. I thought I was going to pay for it and lose when he developed himself into the lead next turn. Fortunately I had a good (read: lucky) last hand that let me give him 2 curses and end the game with a win. Lighthouse was an absolute gem: it was a familiar board and I never received a curse. (This was lucky, too, because I ended up giving him six even though we both had 5 lighthouses and 2 familiars.)

All in all, I learned a lot and really enjoyed it. Thanks for giving me my first Dominion tournament match, rspeer!!
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Re: Kirian's Bracket, Week 4
« Reply #41 on: May 11, 2012, 12:12:01 am »
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Once again, I've forgotten to get the game log.

3 games RisingJaguar, 4 games me.

I was lucky.
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Re: Kirian's Bracket, Week 4
« Reply #42 on: May 11, 2012, 12:34:52 am »
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Re: Kirian's Bracket, Week 4
« Reply #43 on: May 11, 2012, 12:35:03 am »
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Once again, I've forgotten to get the game log.

3 games RisingJaguar, 4 games me.

I was lucky.

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Re: Kirian's Bracket, Week 4
« Reply #44 on: May 11, 2012, 10:18:15 am »
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RisingJaguar just got RisingJaguar'd?
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