Print

Please login or register.
1 Hour 1 Day 1 Week 1 Month Forever
Login with username, password and session length

[LastFootnote]

Everyone went for Treasure Map?  Was the rest of the board really weak?

They probably just didn't want to lose the Treasure Map split.

In all seriousness, though, Treasure Map is a unique, fun card and I can't blame people for going for it.

[flies]

Game over. "gg" I said.

They did not reciprocate my cordial gesture.

Perhaps since you're new here you haven't read this yet.

http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=9541.0

but the game was over.  I mean, there's a discussion of the etiquette surrounding "gg" in general in there, but it seems like the most common opinion expressed, also my own, was that saying "gg" after a game was just polite. 

[sudgy]

Some people were saying that they thought saying gg after the game when you won was bad.

[2.71828.....]

Some people were saying that they thought saying gg after the game when you won was bad.

in fact, some people consider it quite rude. Like the guy in this example

(Although it did help create one of the funniest topics I have read on this forum)

[flies]

Some people were saying that they thought saying gg after the game when you won was bad.

That's true, but I think it was a minority opinion - as I mentioned, I, personally, don't react that way.

If anyone has any advice for what to say when you achieve a devastating and commanding victory, I'm all ears.  In particular, sometimes you win because of what is obviously good luck, e.g. here where I open horse traders/tunnel (with an eye toward future stables purchases), connect them T3, hardly ever missing the tunnel with the HT, and proceed to obtain 5 provinces by T12.  What do you say when that happens?  I and my opponent knew I had good luck.  It happens here that I had the better plan IMO (Stables/HT/Tunnel ought to be good, and the HT/tunnel opening isn't so ridiculous when you consider how easy it is to hit $5 with HT - and my opponent severely lacked economy), but what to say when you just straight outplay your opponent and win crushingly is equally mysterious to me. 

[Awaclus]

Some people were saying that they thought saying gg after the game when you won was bad.

That's true, but I think it was a minority opinion - as I mentioned, I, personally, don't react that way.

If anyone has any advice for what to say when you achieve a devastating and commanding victory, I'm all ears.  In particular, sometimes you win because of what is obviously good luck, e.g. here where I open horse traders/tunnel (with an eye toward future stables purchases), connect them T3, hardly ever missing the tunnel with the HT, and proceed to obtain 5 provinces by T12.  What do you say when that happens?  I and my opponent knew I had good luck.  It happens here that I had the better plan IMO (Stables/HT/Tunnel ought to be good, and the HT/tunnel opening isn't so ridiculous when you consider how easy it is to hit $5 with HT - and my opponent severely lacked economy), but what to say when you just straight outplay your opponent and win crushingly is equally mysterious to me.

"Thanks for the game"?

Also, I do feel that the loser should say gg first. It is rude for the winner to say gg before the loser has said it, and it is rude for the loser to leave without saying it. For the winning player, it is fine to leave before the loser has said gg. This opinion is influenced by Magic: the Gathering, where the losing player could have a response to the winning move which prevents it from happening, and if he doesn't have one (or for some extremely strange reason chooses not to use it even if he does have one), he says gg.

[sudgy]

I one time won by horrible luck, and said something along the lines of "I don't think I should say gg here..."

He replied, "agreed." and left.

[Count Grishnakh]

Game over. "gg" I said.

They did not reciprocate my cordial gesture.

Perhaps since you're new here you haven't read this yet.

http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=9541.0

??

Well I did wait until the game was literally over to say it

That would have been realllly cocky to say "gg" once there was one crossroads left 

[Count Grishnakh]

Everyone went for Treasure Map?  Was the rest of the board really weak?

Naw the board was good, but there was good support for treasure map (iron works and foragers)

I considered going for cultist and trying to block people from connecting treasure map but I haven't had that much luck with that approach in the past

[Count Grishnakh]

Also, I do feel that the loser should say gg first. It is rude for the winner to say gg before the loser has said it, and it is rude for the loser to leave without saying it.

I hadn't considered that, I think I often say "gg"  first on Goko as the winner because I thought if I just sat there in silence it would give off an arrogant "look at me" vibe, and I just wanted to come across as friendly

But I totally see your point, and I should have picked up on this sooner..

[eHalcyon]

Everyone went for Treasure Map?  Was the rest of the board really weak?

Naw the board was good, but there was good support for treasure map (iron works and foragers)

I considered going for cultist and trying to block people from connecting treasure map but I haven't had that much luck with that approach in the past

Hmm, not sure if that's really good support.  Draw/filtering is lacking.  Trashing helps and Ironworks is nice to gain, but significant luck is still required to connect.  Maybe not that significant?  Or maybe the potential payoff is worth the risk in 3p.

Regardless, welcome to the dark side.

[KingZog3]

I think it's ridiculous that you can't say gg if you won. Maybe under certain circumstances, sure. Like I lucked out and emptied the supply turn 3. Not a gg. But if we each played different, valid strategies and I won by 1 point or something I think I should be allowed to inform my opponent that he played well. "gg" is short as fast to type, so I use that.

I agree that people saying it before ending the game is strange, and I don't always say it because sometimes it wasn't a good game, it was boring, or it was a massacre. But who wins or loses has nothing to do with it. It's about the individual case.

[sudgy]

If it was actually a really close game that I was leaning forward on my seat for and I win, I usually say gg.  But most games that I win aren't like that.  They're usually either us both doing the same strategy and I win or me crushing them with a superior strategy.

[eHalcyon]

Is this going to turn into the gg thread?

The short of it is that everyone has their own interpretations of what "gg" means.  No matter what conventions you adopt, someone is going to get offended eventually.  That's especially true considering that tone and intention are difficult to convey in an online medium.  All you can do is try to be polite, and maybe apologize and clarify if there's ever a misunderstanding. 

[KingZog3]

Is this going to turn into the gg thread?

The short of it is that everyone has their own interpretations of what "gg" means.  No matter what conventions you adopt, someone is going to get offended eventually.  That's especially true considering that tone and intention are difficult to convey in an online medium.  All you can do is try to be polite, and maybe apologize and clarify if there's ever a misunderstanding.

You're wrong. I'm clearly right, and we should argue for another couple of days until we both think each other is an idiot.

[Polk5440]

Game over. "gg" I said.

They did not reciprocate my cordial gesture.

Perhaps since you're new here you haven't read this yet.

http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=9541.0

??

Yeah, I don't get why he linked to it, either.

[Count Grishnakh]

Yeah that's true how gg means different things to different people. I use it to mean "I am happy to game with you"

[shark_bait]

I thought that discussion was more relative to "gg"etiquette.  Guess I could have picked a better thread.

[Count Grishnakh]

I thought that discussion was more relative to "gg"etiquette.  Guess I could have picked a better thread.

No its okay I figured that.. after reading further.

[Ozle]

I use it to mean 'How dare you meat I am going to come round your house and eat your mail"

Unless of course I have win and then it means 'HAH! in your face Loooooser. Loooooooooser. Loooooooooooooooooooseeeeer, but seriously a good game, well played'

[soulnet]

Unless of course I have win and then it means 'HAH! in your face Loooooser. Loooooooooser. Loooooooooooooooooooseeeeer, but seriously a good game, well played'

you are softening with age?

[Ozle]

Unless of course I have win and then it means 'HAH! in your face Loooooser. Loooooooooser. Loooooooooooooooooooseeeeer, but seriously a good game, well played'

you are softening with age?

Dunno, its never happened that i have won a game....

[Mole5000]

I don't know. If my turn was so good that I can win now, or I can win ten turns from now, am I not doing a favour by ending the game early? Or, if I can forfeit now by causing a 3-pile on a loss now or have the game go on for another 10 turns of sloggyness, am I in the wrong to end the game on a loss when I don't want to try winning the game anymore?

If it's a one-sided game, I agree with you.

If it is early in the game I prefer to not take the easy way out I'd rather rely on the strength of the deck I've built than win by technicality and due to the fact that I got to have an extra turn.

I once played a game, oh what a game it was, my opponent got a really sweet KC mega turn deck together, I played awfully, he could have ended the game.  Instead this happened:

http://councilroom.com/game?game_id=game-20110127-050348-a4d3d199.html

At the time I felt a little bit sorry for him.  But not anymore.

[flies]

seriously, 10 (effective) bridges in play and he didn't take the win?  that's idiotic. He didn't even set himself up for a win next turn properly - note he had 4 libraries and LOTS of non-drawing cards.

[Grujah]

I don't know. If my turn was so good that I can win now, or I can win ten turns from now, am I not doing a favour by ending the game early? Or, if I can forfeit now by causing a 3-pile on a loss now or have the game go on for another 10 turns of sloggyness, am I in the wrong to end the game on a loss when I don't want to try winning the game anymore?

If it's a one-sided game, I agree with you.

If it is early in the game I prefer to not take the easy way out I'd rather rely on the strength of the deck I've built than win by technicality and due to the fact that I got to have an extra turn.

I once played a game, oh what a game it was, my opponent got a really sweet KC mega turn deck together, I played awfully, he could have ended the game.  Instead this happened:

http://councilroom.com/game?game_id=game-20110127-050348-a4d3d199.html

At the time I felt a little bit sorry for him.  But not anymore.

OMG posting a isotropic log.
You cruel cruel man.