Eevee reread, again only including things that could give me insight to the chance of being ice mafia for players still alive that aren't voltaire/liopoil:
D1:
- mentions multiple times how E is playing well, not like a newbie, doesn't need to mention newness over and over again. Should check to see if E changed his posting style after this.
- votes NHS (Jimmmmm) to get him to post
- specifically says that he is null on the faust/sudgy thing.
He really doesn't talk much about other people D1, or at least, not about people still alive. This is all I could find.
D2:
I recall Voltgloss having some strong opinions. Should go back to check what they were in the light of someone wanting to kill him.
What were they?
I went back to look now, and seems the thing I was recalling was nothing Voltgloss said himself - it was the fact yuma suspected him day 1, which isn't something I'd expect to happen. No idea what to make of that though.
Why doesn't he know what to make of it? this is something that's pretty clearly scummy in this setup. player A suspects player B, player B turns up dead, player A is suspicious. But eevee doesn't know what to make of this. Now, this is especially interesting because eevee's team didn't kill voltgloss, robz888's team did. So, if yuma is eevee's partner, eevee KNOWS that yuma suspecting voltgloss isn't scummy, because he didn't kill him! but if he isn't eevee partner, eevee should suspect yuma for this.
- has scumread on yuma for hammer, talks w/yuma a fair bit about why, explaining himself, etc. But he never votes for yuma!
- agrees w/voltaire that E has rocketed up the scum ladder
- posts reads w/out explanation (including townread on yuma all of a sudden), says will explain later. does:
--snip--
Basically, my reads at this point are:
--snip--
yuma: Should probably explain this in it's own post, especially as I'm blanking on verbalizing the reasons for the 180° right now.
Gweoniz, Jimmmm, liopoil: I'm pretty much totally null for the lack of information
--snip--
sudgy: His answers to yuma's grilling regarding the faust-vote are very lackluster to me. I see a strong possibility of scum putting down a scummy vote, being called out on it and not being able to explain it. Especially as sudgy's attitude hasn't been "I made a mistake", which is what again I'd think the plausible town narrative would be. He is insisting he had sufficient reasons for the vote, yet is as far as I can see unable to provide them.
E: Well, the timeline, as I see it, for E's day 2 is he does a couple of very scummy things (his arbitrary excluding and including people of different lists and deciding where the scum lies based on his assumptions reeked of scum just wanting to manipulate town towards his desired direction, and I covered how scummy I deemed his sheeping of Robz's case when I answered to that), gets called out on them (by the IC, of all people) and when the general atmosphere clearly starts to turn towards him being thought of as a lynch candidate, he rushes off to do quite extensive rereads, changes his tone of posting completely (I want to say from scummy to more calculated and cautious but that's just my perspective). Now, I do not want to give the impression I don't appreciate the work he put into the rereads and the game in general - I know it tremendously helped me to catch up quickly and more effortlessly. However, I disagree with giving him town cred for that - in fact it builds more towards the narrative of scum aggressively pursuing a mislynch (=lynch of someone not in his team), until he realizes he stepped over the line and then bolting back to his trench to wait out the attack (wait out not by lurking but by posting non-controversial stuff, and so much of it that the earlier stuff would be forgotten or forgiven.. some people react to cases on them by staying silent and hoping the case disappears, to me it seems like e reacted by abandoning his earlier goal of aggressively pushing us towards a lynch and just taking a defensive (albeit a very active) stance). This metaphor is much clearer in my heads, but think of it as a WW2 battle, first he runs from the trenches his guns blazing at his enemies like Rambo, then he gets called out on trying to shoot them and they shoot back, so he retreats to the bunker to wait out until we forget about him.
so slight scumreads on sudgy/E. But the bolded is the interesting bit. He never explains his reasoning for the sudden townread on yuma!
- says Gveoniz's partner would have warned him about playing differently.
- talks more, pushing E scumread.
48 hours to lynch. Absent a super-compelling case, I'm very likely to vote for the person who's the most viable lynch.
I guess scum would be less likely to say something this scummy, but I dislike this theory. It's like you are telling scum "no worries, we won't even try to hit you today, just vote for some townie and I'll follow".
Or you are scum and just bold.
hmmmm... I think this points to Jimmmmm not being eevee's partner, but I'm not sure.
So, based purely on this, in terms of how likely they are to be eevee's partner:
Yuma>>>Gveoniz>>>sudgy>E>Jimmmmm.
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