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Treasure Chest Design Contest — Card #2: Hinterlands
« on: September 02, 2013, 11:11:56 pm »
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The second contest is to design a card that would fit well in Hinterlands. I'll just repost all the rules and things here so that people don't have to hunt around for them.

Submission Rules

• Submit no more than one card per challenge.
• You are not obligated to submit a card for every challenge.
• Submit your card to me via this forum's messaging system.  Submissions made after each week's deadline cannot be accepted.
• Each card you submit must have a name, a cost, a list of types, and the exact wording that should appear on the card.  Also include a brief description of any special design considerations (e.g., Stash having a unique back), but do NOT include any other information, such as strategic commentary or examples about it would play.
• Unlike the previous set design contest, the name you give your card will appear on the ballot. If multiple cards with the same name are submitted, I will differentiate them with letters in a randomly chosen order, e.g. [Card Name] A, [Card Name] B, etc. Cards themselves will likewise be listed in a random order on the ballot.
• I will accept revisions to your contest entries provided they are submitted to me before the deadline.  If you submit a revision to an entry you have previously submitted to me, resubmit your revised card(s) in their entirety.  That is, don't tell me "Oh, can you make that +2 Cards say +3 Cards instead?"  Just resubmit the full card.
• Only submit cards that are your own design.
• You may submit cards that have been previously posted here in this forum, including those that have been refined by the community as a whole, provided you can still claim that the central conceit of the card -- and the majority of its final version -- is yours.
• A single card might conceivably qualify for multiple challenges within this series. If your card doesn't win the first challenge you submit it to, you may submit it for any and all future challenges (until it wins), provided the card fits those challenges. This is particularly pertinent for cards that don't win the first of two slots for a large expansion, although depending on which card does win, your card may not qualify for the second challenge.
• Do not disclose your submissions publicly, either in this thread or elsewhere!

For this Treasure Chest set, you may not submit cards that combine certain mechanics from multiple expansions. The idea is that you could simply slot the cards into their respective sets without needing components or rules specific to another set. Specifically:

• Duration cards may only be submitted as candidates for a Seaside slot.
• Potion-cost cards may only be submitted as candidates for the Alchemy slot.
• Cards that use VP tokens or cost $7 or more may only be submitted as candidates for a Prosperity slot.
• Cards that use Coin tokens and cards that use overpay may only be submitted as candidates for the Guilds slot.
• Cards that use Ruins (Looters) and cards that use Spoils may only be submitted as candidates for a Dark Ages slot.

Many mechanics are fair game for any submission. The following is an incomplete list.

• Victory/Action and Victory/Treasure hybrid cards.
• Cards that allow you to choose an ability from a list.
• Cards with on-buy, would-gain, on-gain, and on-trash abilities.

I will be putting some constraints on the set as a whole.

• No more than one Victory card (ideally an Intrigue or Hinterlands card).
• No more than one Treasure card (ideally a Prosperity card).
• The raw number of cards (including randomizers) must not exceed 150.



Challenge #2 : Hinterlands

Design a Kingdom card that would fit into the Hinterlands expansion. Ideally such a card will have one or more of the following qualities:

• Does something when you buy or gain it.
• Does something when you buy or gain another card.
- Lets you deal with having a large deck or increases the size of your deck.
- Cares about Victory cards.

The bullet points (•) are the set's major themes, and the hyphens (-) are the set's minor themes.

I'll talk a bit here about point #3: enables a large deck. You may have noticed that Hinterlands cards aren't geared around having a small, tightly run deck. In fact, the only Hinterlands card that is actually designed to shrink your deck is Spice Merchant. Perhaps it will be easiest to explain this with some examples.

• Hinterlands has a ton of filtering cards which allow you to cycle through your chaff to your good cards: Oasis, Oracle, Jack of all Trades, Cartographer, Embassy, Inn, Margrave, and Stables.
• Many Hinterlands cards improve your deck by allowing you to gain more good cards quickly, rather than removing bad cards: Duchess, Develop, Trader, Haggler, Border Village.
• Cache pushes filtering by increasing the variance of your deck.
• Scheme lets you play your key cards more often even when you're not drawing your entire deck.

You get the idea. Please keep this in mind when designing your Hinterlands cards. It may help them feel more Hinterlands-y.

The deadline for this week's challenge is Monday, September 9, 2013 at 8am CDT.

If you have any questions, please post them here or send me a private message and I will endeavor to answer them in a timely manner. Good luck!

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Re: Treasure Chest Design Contest — Card #2: Hinterlands
« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2013, 11:42:46 pm »
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I have ideas pretty much set for some other expansions, but nothing for Hinterlands.

Maybe I will submit something a bit crazy, the balance of which I have absolutely no clue.

I hope to see some interesting card names with exotic flair.
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Re: Treasure Chest Design Contest — Card #2: Hinterlands
« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2013, 11:58:04 pm »
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Re: Treasure Chest Design Contest — Card #2: Hinterlands
« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2013, 11:59:03 pm »
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• Does something when you buy or gain it.
• Does something when you buy or gain another card.
- Lets you deal with having a large deck or increases the size of your deck.
- Cares about Victory cards.

The bullet points (•) are the set's major themes, and the hyphens (-) are the set's minor themes.

Another minor theme of Hinterlands is "not just Actions"—it's got three Victory cards and three Treasure cards, one of each of which is also a Reaction; there are more Reaction kingdom cards in Hinterlands than any other expansion. Is this also something people should take into account?
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Re: Treasure Chest Design Contest — Card #2: Hinterlands
« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2013, 12:19:08 am »
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Well, I have a card name and a concept that I like. Now I just need to make it fit with the expansion themes...
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Re: Treasure Chest Design Contest — Card #2: Hinterlands
« Reply #5 on: September 03, 2013, 12:28:56 am »
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Re: Treasure Chest Design Contest — Card #2: Hinterlands
« Reply #6 on: September 03, 2013, 12:36:00 am »
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Yup, submitted.  It started out as something crazy, but I have convinced myself that it is a decent concept.  Still kind of crazy.

Here are some card names that I did not use which I think fit Hinterlands pretty well:

Monastery
Nomadic Monk (or some variation of this; I like it because airbenders)
Rock Garden
Emir
Sultan
Vizier (especially good if there is interaction with the player to your left)
Palanquin
Satrapy (especially good for a Victory card)
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Re: Treasure Chest Design Contest — Card #2: Hinterlands
« Reply #7 on: September 03, 2013, 12:43:20 am »
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And another minor theme - Icebergs. By which I mean cards that are simple, maybe even vanilla, "above the line", but have a lot more going on "below the line" in terms of in-play or when-buy/gain or Reaction effects. This kind of ties in to the plan for Hinterlands to have been the third standalone set.

Also, Iceberg would be a great Victory-Reaction card.
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Re: Treasure Chest Design Contest — Card #2: Hinterlands
« Reply #8 on: September 03, 2013, 12:47:41 am »
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And another minor theme - Icebergs. By which I mean cards that are simple, maybe even vanilla, "above the line", but have a lot more going on "below the line" in terms of in-play or when-buy/gain or Reaction effects. This kind of ties in to the plan for Hinterlands to have been the third standalone set.

Also, Iceberg would be a great Victory-Reaction card.

Nice terminology!  Hopefully Iceberg would synergize with Nomadic Monk.  Or should it anti-synergize?
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Re: Treasure Chest Design Contest — Card #2: Hinterlands
« Reply #9 on: September 03, 2013, 12:48:49 am »
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Yup, submitted.  It started out as something crazy, but I have convinced myself that it is a decent concept.  Still kind of crazy.

Here are some card names that I did not use which I think fit Hinterlands pretty well:

Monastery
Nomadic Monk (or some variation of this; I like it because airbenders)
Rock Garden
Emir
Sultan
Vizier (especially good if there is interaction with the player to your left)
Palanquin
Satrapy (especially good for a Victory card)

I always thought Rock Garden would be a great name for a Victory card that cared how many Treasures you had in your deck. And then they named that card Feodum  :P
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Re: Treasure Chest Design Contest — Card #2: Hinterlands
« Reply #10 on: September 03, 2013, 01:47:11 am »
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And another minor theme - Icebergs. By which I mean cards that are simple, maybe even vanilla, "above the line", but have a lot more going on "below the line" in terms of in-play or when-buy/gain or Reaction effects. This kind of ties in to the plan for Hinterlands to have been the third standalone set.

Also, Iceberg would be a great Victory-Reaction card.

Nice terminology!  Hopefully Iceberg would synergize with Nomadic Monk.  Or should it anti-synergize?
Are you thinking that the Monk would cross the Iceberg, or be impeded by it? I think it would be better for Iceberg to protect against Pirate Ship and Ghost Ship.
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Re: Treasure Chest Design Contest — Card #2: Hinterlands
« Reply #11 on: September 03, 2013, 02:28:32 am »
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And another minor theme - Icebergs. By which I mean cards that are simple, maybe even vanilla, "above the line", but have a lot more going on "below the line" in terms of in-play or when-buy/gain or Reaction effects. This kind of ties in to the plan for Hinterlands to have been the third standalone set.

Also, Iceberg would be a great Victory-Reaction card.

Nice terminology!  Hopefully Iceberg would synergize with Nomadic Monk.  Or should it anti-synergize?
Are you thinking that the Monk would cross the Iceberg, or be impeded by it? I think it would be better for Iceberg to protect against Pirate Ship and Ghost Ship.

It's an Avatar: The Last Airbender reference. :P
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« Reply #12 on: September 03, 2013, 06:17:47 am »
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In all of these contest, can we have one extra voting stage of like 5? I want to playtest before I vote, but 40 cards is way too much for that.
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« Reply #13 on: September 03, 2013, 07:06:20 am »
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LastFootnote - you forgot to reserve posts for the cards and results! :( :(
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Re: Treasure Chest Design Contest — Card #2: Hinterlands
« Reply #14 on: September 03, 2013, 08:13:27 am »
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Yup, submitted.  It started out as something crazy, but I have convinced myself that it is a decent concept.  Still kind of crazy.

Here are some card names that I did not use which I think fit Hinterlands pretty well:

Monastery
Nomadic Monk (or some variation of this; I like it because airbenders)
Rock Garden
Emir
Sultan
Vizier (especially good if there is interaction with the player to your left)
Palanquin
Satrapy (especially good for a Victory card)

I have some unused names that I could share, but I'm worried about posting the name someone else used.  I really like Wayfarer as a name.  Vagabond is sort of similar.
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Re: Treasure Chest Design Contest — Card #2: Hinterlands
« Reply #15 on: September 03, 2013, 09:25:17 am »
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I decided that I would share a little bit of unsolicited advice about making cards.  I'm surely no expert, and other here are welcome to disagree, share their advice, and post edge cases.

First, your card should have a concise idea in it.  As you were reading through the Prosperity submissions, you may have noticed yourself having to strain at times to put together all of the details of a card, or having to reread it several times to parse everything.  Ideally, you would avoid that as much as possible, especially if you are looking for votes in a contest where it takes over an hour to go through the full list of submissions.  You want someone to read your card and immediately be intrigued, not just grow impatient and move on.  It can take a lot of thought about "what is the main point of this card?"  or "what is this card trying to do, and is there a cleaner way of reaching that goal?".  In that last question, start out by stating your goal in the broadest and most abstract terms appropriate, rather than pinning your concept to a particular mechanic from the start.  And once you are able to boil that idea down to its essence, try not to decorate it with too many distracting bells or whistles.

I think the latter was particularly difficult in the Prosperity contest since you may have found a simple concept that you loved, but was only worth costing $3, so you tried to buff it up by any means to reach $6 or $7.  Those higher price points are really hard to balance and judge, in part because we have so little experience with them, and also because that high price point can make them inherently swingy:  one player gets a lucky early spike to afford one, and then the card was made so grossly powerful to justify the price tag that now he is at a huge advantage for that lucky spike.

Hinterlands cards sometimes gets a bad rap for the tops and bottoms just being tacked on.  But consider, say, Inn.  Surely the essential idea is to stack the upcoming deck in your favor.  This could have been implemented in different ways (e.g. Scheme or Herald), but with Inn Donald chose to shuffle Actions into your deck.  That's probably too strong or too clunky to be an on-play effect, so Donald made it an on-gain.  Then what should the top effect be?  Well, the on-gain is mostly good with a deck which relies on Actions.  Decks which rely on Actions usually want a village.  So let's make Inn a village!  Cool, every set wants a village or two.  Should it just be plain old village?  Let's spice that up a little at least.  Well, this set has something of a filtering theme, and a bit of filtering can be about as good as drawing a single card.  It helps to deal with those few non Actions left in your deck when you shuffle in Inn.

As for what makes that "main point" of the card compelling, well that depends a lot on the person.  Personally, I want something which is not just a novel idea, but which encourages a novel strategy.  Something that makes games with that card have a unique if subtly different flavor.  I'd like the card to be usable in a wide range of boards and stategies, though not necessarily all, but not be the new King's Court or Rebuild which just steals the show.
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Re: Treasure Chest Design Contest — Card #2: Hinterlands
« Reply #16 on: September 03, 2013, 09:29:19 am »
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Voting Rules

• I will not accept votes until Wednesday, September 11, 2013 at 8am CDT. There are two reasons for this. First, I've almost certainly made some mistakes and I want the card authors to have time to contact me so I can make fixes. Second, I want everybody to have the chance to critique and discuss the cards for a few days.
• The deadline for turning in your ballots is Monday, September 16, 2013 at 8am CDT.
• We are using an approval voting system. That means you can vote for as many of the cards as you like, but only once for each card. Feel free to vote for your own card if you submitted one. When you send in your ballot, simply list the cards you'd like to vote for.
• I will generally not accept revisions to ballots. I recommend you send your ballot in later rather than earlier in case you change your mind about some of your votes.
• The winning card may (and likely will) be revised, so I encourage you vote for a card if you think it could be great with a different cost or some slight tweaking.

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Palanquin
Types: Action
Cost: $5
+1 Action. You may discard an Action card. If you do, +1 Card per $ it costs.


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Tribe
Types: Action
Cost: $3
+2 Actions. +$1. Look at the top 2 cards of your deck. Discard one and put the other anywhere in your deck.

When you buy this, you may discard a card. If you do, +1 Buy and +$2.


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Quagmire
Types: Victory
Cost: $3
Worth 1 VP.

When you gain this, trash 3 cards from a Supply pile.


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Hinterland
Types: Action
Cost: $4
Swap the cards in your hand with the cards on your Hinterland mat.

When you gain this, gain a Silver, putting it on your Hinterland mat.


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Pilgrimage
Types: Action
Cost: $3
+1 Action. +2 Buys.

While this is in play, when you gain a Victory card, Victory cards cost $1 less this turn, but not less than $0.

Clarification: Gaining Victory cards multiple times in a turn while this is in play does reduce the cost of Victory cards each time.


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Consulate
Types: Action
Cost: $4
+3 Cards. +1 Action. Discard 2 cards.

When you gain this, each other player gains a Copper, putting it into his hand.


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Trade Agreement
Types: Action
Cost: $5
+3 Cards.

While this is in play, when you gain a Trade Agreement, gain a card costing up to $5.


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Mountain Dwellers
Types: Action
Cost: $5
+1 Card. +1 Action. Reveal your hand. If you revealed 3 or more Treasure cards, +$1.

When you buy this, you may trash a Treasure card you have in play. Gain a Treasure card costing exactly $3 more than it.


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Emerald Vein
Types: Action – Victory
Cost: $5
+1 Action. Reveal your hand. +$1 per Victory card revealed.

Worth 1 VP.


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Troglodyte Caves
Types: Action
Cost: $5
+1 Card. +1 Action. Discard any number of cards. +1 Card per card discarded.

When you gain this, you may reveal a card from your hand costing less than this. Gain a copy of it.


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Vendor
Types: Action
Cost: $1
+1 Action

When you buy this, +2 Buys.


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Artefact
Types: Action
Cost: $2
+1 Card. +1 Action. Choose a card from your hand. Trash it, discard it, or put it on top of your deck.

When you buy this, set it aside instead of gaining it. Discard it after you next shuffle your discard pile (or when the game ends).


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Ring Leader
Types: Action – Attack
Cost: $3
+2 Cards.

When you buy or play this, each player (including you) reveals the top 4 card of his deck, discards one that you choose, and puts the rest back in an order he chooses.

EDIT: Added +2 Cards to Ring Leader's on-play effect.


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River
Types: Victory
Cost: $3
Worth 2 VP.

When you gain this during your turn, all cards except Victory cards cost $2 less this turn, but not less than $0.


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Factory
Types: Action – Reaction
Cost: $4
+1 Action. You may discard a card that is not a Victory card. If you do, gain a copy of it.

When you gain a card, you may reveal this from your hand and put it onto your deck. If you do, put the gained card into your hand.


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Sanctuary
Types: Action
Cost: $5
+2 Cards. Discard 2 cards.

When you gain this, set aside a card from your hand. Return that card to your deck at the end of the game.


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Workers' Co-operative
Types: Action
Cost: $5
+1 Buy. +$3.

While this is in play, when you buy a card, each other player may gain a card costing less than it.


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Smelter
Types: Action
Cost: $4
+1 Buy. +$1.

While this is in play, when you buy a card, gain a Silver, putting it on top of your deck.


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Witch Doctor
Types: Action
Cost: $4
+$1. Look through your deck; reveal and discard any number of Victory and Curse cards from it. Shuffle your deck.

When you gain this, put your deck into your discard pile.


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Diviner
Types: Action
Cost: $3
+2 Cards. +1 Buy.

While this is in play, when you buy a card, reveal the top 2 cards of your deck, discard any number, and put the rest back on top in any order.


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Shoreline
Types: Victory
Cost: $6
Worth 4 VP.

When you gain this, +1 Buy.


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Mill
Types: Action
Cost: $5
+1 Action. Each other player draws a card. Gain a card costing up to $5.

When you gain this, each other player discards down to 3 cards in hand.


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Travelling Salesman
Types: Action – Reaction
Cost: $5
Discard any number of Treasure cards from your hand. +2 Cards per card discarded.

When another player gains a Victory card, you may discard this. If you do, gain a card costing less than the gained Victory card.


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Courier (A)
Types: Action – Reaction
Cost: $4
+1 Card. +1 Action. Discard any number of cards. Gain a card costing exactly $1 per card discarded.

When you would gain a card other than during your Buy phase, you may discard this from your hand. If you do, gain a card costing up to $2 more instead.


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Oicho-Kabu
Types: Action – Victory
Cost: $5
+1 Buy. +$2.

Worth 1 VP. While this is in play, when you buy a card, +$2 and discard the top card of your deck. If it's a Victory card, trash this.


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Wayfarer (A)
Types: Action
Cost: $2
+1 Card. +1 Action. +1 Buy.

When you buy this, you may trash a card from your hand. If you do, +$ equal to its cost in coins.


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Sultan
Types: Action
Cost: $5
+2 Cards. +1 Action. Discard a card.

When you gain this, look at the top 3 cards of your deck. Discard any number of them and put the rest back in any order.


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Safe House
Types: Victory – Reaction
Cost: $3
Worth 2 VP.

When you gain a card costing $0, you may discard this. If you do, gain a Gold.


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Commander
Types: Victory
Cost: $5
Worth 2 VP

When you gain this, gain a Reinforcement card, putting it on top of your deck.
Setup: Add an extra Action Kingdom card pile costing $5 to the Supply. Cards from that pile are Reinforcement cards and cannot be bought.

Clarification: Unlike most Victory cards, there are always 10 copies of Commander in the Supply regardless of the number of players.


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Midnight Gathering
Types: Action
Cost: $5
+1 Action. You may put your deck into your discard pile. Look through your discard pile. You may reveal an Action card from it; put it into your hand.


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Pasture
Types: Victory – Reaction
Cost: $4
Worth 2 VP.

When another player gains a Victory card, you may reveal and discard this along with any number of cards from your hand. If you do, +2 Cards per Pasture and +1 Card per other card discarded.


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Trailblazer
Types: Action
Cost: $4
Gain a card costing up to $4.

When you gain this, reveal the top 4 cards of your deck. Put any number of the revealed Victory cards and Curses into your hand. Put the other cards back in any order.


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Bargain
Types: Action
Cost: $4
You may trash a card from your hand. Gain a card costing exactly $1 more than it, a card costing exactly $2 more than it, and a card costing exactly $3 more than it. Discard down to 2 cards in hand.

When you gain this, each player (including you) may trash a card from his hand.


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Clairvoyant
Types: Action
Cost: $3
+1 Action. Look at the top card of your deck. You may put it into your hand. Otherwise, +$1 and either discard it or put it back. Look through your discard pile and put a card from it or your hand at the bottom of your deck.


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Fence
Types: Action
Cost: $5
While this is in play, when you buy a card, gain a card costing exactly $1 more than it.

EDIT: Changed from "when you gain a card" to "when you buy a card".


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Shaman
Types: Action
Cost: $4
+1 Action. Name a card. Reveal cards from your deck until you reveal an Action card with that name. Put it into your hand and discard the rest.

When you gain this, each other player discards any number of cards from his hand then draws a card per card discarded.


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Tinker's Wagon
Types: Action
Cost: $4
Gain a card costing up to $4.

When you gain this, move a card costing between $3 and $6 from the top of one Supply pile to the top of another.


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Thrift Shop
Types: Action
Cost: $6
+1 Action. +$2. If this is not the first time you played Thrift Shop this turn, you may gain a card from the Thrift Shop mat.

When you gain or play this, place a card costing up to $5 from the Supply onto the Thrift Shop mat.

Clarification: There is only one community Thrift Shop mat. Each player does not have his own.


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Grandee
Types: Action
Cost: $5
+1 Buy. Gain a card costing up to $4.

When you gain this, gain a Gold; each other player gains a Silver.


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Construct
Types: Action
Cost: $3
Trash a card from your hand. Gain two cards each costing exactly $1 more than it.

When you gain this during your Action phase, +1 Card and +1 Action.


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Missionary
Types: Action
Cost: $4
Reveal cards from your deck until you reveal a Victory card. Gain an Action or Treasure card costing up to the Victory card's cost, putting it onto your deck. Discard the revealed cards.

When you buy this, reveal a card from your hand. If that card costs $6 or less, gain a copy of it.


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Chapterhouse
Types: Action
Cost: $5
+1 Action. +$1. Draw until you have 6 cards in hand. Discard 2 cards.

When you buy this, each other player draws a card. When you gain this, each other player with at least 4 cards in hand discards a card.


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Barn
Types: Action
Cost: $5
+1 Card. +1 Action. Discard a card. If you discarded a Victory or Curse card, gain a Treasure costing up to $4. Otherwise, +$1 and gain a Victory card costing up to $4. Put the gained card into your hand.

When you buy this, gain an Action card costing up to $4, putting it onto your deck.

EDIT: Changed "When you gain this" to "When you buy this".


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Huntsmen
Type: Action
Cost: $0*
+1 Action. +1 Buy.

When you gain this, +2 Buys. During your Buy phase, this costs $2 more for each card you've gained this turn.


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Painful Journey
Types: Action – Curse – Reaction
Cost: $4
Discard any number of Curses. +2 Cards for each Curse discarded.

Worth –1 VP. When you would buy a Victory card, you may trash this from your hand. If you do, gain a Victory card costin less than the bought card and gain 2 Curses.

Clarification: You cannot gain this card when another card instructs you to gain a Curse.


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Wagon Raider
Types: Action – Attack
Cost: $4
Each other player may put a card costing more than $2 from their hand into your discard pile. If he doesn't, he gains a Curse.

While this is in play, when you buy a Gold, you may gain a Province instead.

EDIT: Added "instead" to the end of the text.


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Nomadic Village
Types: Action – Reaction
Cost: $4
+1 Card. +2 Actions.

When you gain this, put it into your hand.
When an opponent gains an Action card, you may discard this. If you do, search your discard pile for an Action card and put it into your hand.


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Stranger
Types: Action
Cost: $5
+1 Card. +1 Action. +1 Buy. Each other player discards the top card of his deck. Copies of cards revealed this way cost $2 less this turn, but not less than $0.


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Courier (B)
Types: Action
Cost: $2
+1 Action. +1 Buy.

When you discard this from play, if you bought no more than one card this turn, you may put this on top of your deck.


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Sawmill
Types: Action
Cost: $3
+1 Action. +1 Buy.

When you gain this, set it aside onto your Sawmill mat. At the start of each of your turns, you may put any number of cards from your mat into your hand.


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Pyramid
Types: Action
Cost: $4
+1 Action. +$1. +1 Card per Pyramid you have in play. Discard one card per Pyramid you have in play.

When you buy this, gain an extra copy of it.


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Lucky Coin
Type: Treasure
Cost: $4
Worth $1.

When you gain this, each other player with at least 5 cards in hand reveals his hand and discards a card that you choose.


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Used Land Salesman
Types: Action
Cost: $5
+4 Cards.

While this is in play, when you buy a card, gain a Victory cards costing less than it.


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Wayfarer (B)
Types: Action
Cost: $4
Reveal cards from your deck until you reveal one costing $1 or more. Put all the revealed cards into your hand.

When you discard this from play, gain a card costing up to $1 per Copper you have in play.
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Re: Treasure Chest Design Contest — Card #2: Hinterlands
« Reply #17 on: September 03, 2013, 09:30:01 am »
+10

Results

11 votes:

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Diviner
Types: Action
Cost: $3
+2 Cards. +1 Buy.

While this is in play, when you buy a card, reveal the top 2 cards of your deck, discard any number, and put the rest back on top in any order.

10 votes:

Quote from: markusin
Mountain Dwellers
Types: Action
Cost: $5
+1 Card. +1 Action. Reveal your hand. If you revealed 3 or more Treasure cards, +$1.

When you buy this, you may trash a Treasure card you have in play. Gain a Treasure card costing exactly $3 more than it.

Quote from: ChocophileBenj
Troglodyte Caves
Types: Action
Cost: $5
+1 Card. +1 Action. Discard any number of cards. +1 Card per card discarded.

When you gain this, you may reveal a card from your hand costing less than this. Gain a copy of it.

8 votes:

Quote from: dnkywin
Smelter
Types: Action
Cost: $4
+1 Buy. +$1.

While this is in play, when you buy a card, gain a Silver, putting it on top of your deck.

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Witch Doctor
Types: Action
Cost: $4
+$1. Look through your deck; reveal and discard any number of Victory and Curse cards from it. Shuffle your deck.

When you gain this, put your deck into your discard pile.

7 votes:

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River
Types: Victory
Cost: $3
Worth 2 VP.

When you gain this during your turn, all cards except Victory cards cost $2 less this turn, but not less than $0.

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Mill
Types: Action
Cost: $5
+1 Action. Each other player draws a card. Gain a card costing up to $5.

When you gain this, each other player discards down to 3 cards in hand.

Quote from: RobertJ
Chapterhouse
Types: Action
Cost: $5
+1 Action. +$1. Draw until you have 6 cards in hand. Discard 2 cards.

When you buy this, each other player draws a card. When you gain this, each other player with at least 4 cards in hand discards a card.

6 votes:

Quote from: Jack Rudd
Safe House
Types: Victory – Reaction
Cost: $3
Worth 2 VP.

When you gain a card costing $0, you may discard this. If you do, gain a Gold.

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Nomadic Village
Types: Action – Reaction
Cost: $4
+1 Card. +2 Actions.

When you gain this, put it into your hand.
When an opponent gains an Action card, you may discard this. If you do, search your discard pile for an Action card and put it into your hand.

Quote from: A Drowned Kernel
Wayfarer (B)
Types: Action
Cost: $4
Reveal cards from your deck until you reveal one costing $1 or more. Put all the revealed cards into your hand.

When you discard this from play, gain a card costing up to $1 per Copper you have in play.

5 votes:

Quote from: Robz888
Emerald Vein
Types: Action – Victory
Cost: $5
+1 Action. Reveal your hand. +$1 per Victory card revealed.

Worth 1 VP.

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Commander
Types: Victory
Cost: $5
Worth 2 VP

When you gain this, gain a Reinforcement card, putting it on top of your deck.
Setup: Add an extra Action Kingdom card pile costing $5 to the Supply. Cards from that pile are Reinforcement cards and cannot be bought.

Clarification: Unlike most Victory cards, there are always 10 copies of Commander in the Supply regardless of the number of players.

Quote from: HeavyD
Pasture
Types: Victory – Reaction
Cost: $4
Worth 2 VP.

When another player gains a Victory card, you may reveal and discard this along with any number of cards from your hand. If you do, +2 Cards per Pasture and +1 Card per other card discarded.

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Sawmill
Types: Action
Cost: $3
+1 Action. +1 Buy.

When you gain this, set it aside onto your Sawmill mat. At the start of each of your turns, you may put any number of cards from your mat into your hand.

4 votes:

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Palanquin
Types: Action
Cost: $5
+1 Action. You may discard an Action card. If you do, +1 Card per $ it costs.

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Consulate
Types: Action
Cost: $4
+3 Cards. +1 Action. Discard 2 cards.

When you gain this, each other player gains a Copper, putting it into his hand.

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Artefact
Types: Action
Cost: $2
+1 Card. +1 Action. Choose a card from your hand. Trash it, discard it, or put it on top of your deck.

When you buy this, set it aside instead of gaining it. Discard it after you next shuffle your discard pile (or when the game ends).

Quote from: Powerman
Ring Leader
Types: Action – Attack
Cost: $3
+2 Cards.

When you buy or play this, each player (including you) reveals the top 4 card of his deck, discards one that you choose, and puts the rest back in an order he chooses.

Quote from: kn1tt3r
Travelling Salesman
Types: Action – Reaction
Cost: $5
Discard any number of Treasure cards from your hand. +2 Cards per card discarded.

When another player gains a Victory card, you may discard this. If you do, gain a card costing less than the gained Victory card.

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Courier (A)
Types: Action – Reaction
Cost: $4
+1 Card. +1 Action. Discard any number of cards. Gain a card costing exactly $1 per card discarded.

When you would gain a card other than during your Buy phase, you may discard this from your hand. If you do, gain a card costing up to $2 more instead.

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Oicho-Kabu
Types: Action – Victory
Cost: $5
+1 Buy. +$2.

Worth 1 VP. While this is in play, when you buy a card, +$2 and discard the top card of your deck. If it's a Victory card, trash this.

Quote from: Nicrosil
Wayfarer (A)
Types: Action
Cost: $2
+1 Card. +1 Action. +1 Buy.

When you buy this, you may trash a card from your hand. If you do, +$ equal to its cost in coins.

Quote from: yuma
Thrift Shop
Types: Action
Cost: $6
+1 Action. +$2. If this is not the first time you played Thrift Shop this turn, you may gain a card from the Thrift Shop mat.

When you gain or play this, place a card costing up to $5 from the Supply onto the Thrift Shop mat.

Clarification: There is only one community Thrift Shop mat. Each player does not have his own.

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Barn
Types: Action
Cost: $5
+1 Card. +1 Action. Discard a card. If you discarded a Victory or Curse card, gain a Treasure costing up to $4. Otherwise, +$1 and gain a Victory card costing up to $4. Put the gained card into your hand.

When you buy this, gain an Action card costing up to $4, putting it onto your deck.

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Huntsmen
Type: Action
Cost: $0*
+1 Action. +1 Buy.

When you gain this, +2 Buys. During your Buy phase, this costs $2 more for each card you've gained this turn.

Quote from: GwinnR
Pyramid
Types: Action
Cost: $4
+1 Action. +$1. +1 Card per Pyramid you have in play. Discard one card per Pyramid you have in play.

When you buy this, gain an extra copy of it.

3 votes:

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Tribe
Types: Action
Cost: $3
+2 Actions. +$1. Look at the top 2 cards of your deck. Discard one and put the other anywhere in your deck.

When you buy this, you may discard a card. If you do, +1 Buy and +$2.

Quote from: heron
Trade Agreement
Types: Action
Cost: $5
+3 Cards.

While this is in play, when you gain a Trade Agreement, gain a card costing up to $5.

Quote from: Just a Rube
Trailblazer
Types: Action
Cost: $4
Gain a card costing up to $4.

When you gain this, reveal the top 4 cards of your deck. Put any number of the revealed Victory cards and Curses into your hand. Put the other cards back in any order.

Quote from: Gveoniz
Clairvoyant
Types: Action
Cost: $3
+1 Action. Look at the top card of your deck. You may put it into your hand. Otherwise, +$1 and either discard it or put it back. Look through your discard pile and put a card from it or your hand at the bottom of your deck.

Quote from: dghunter79
Tinker's Wagon
Types: Action
Cost: $4
Gain a card costing up to $4.

When you gain this, move a card costing between $3 and $6 from the top of one Supply pile to the top of another.

Quote from: Kirian
Courier (B)
Types: Action
Cost: $2
+1 Action. +1 Buy.

When you discard this from play, if you bought no more than one card this turn, you may put this on top of your deck.

Quote from: WanderingWinder
Used Land Salesman
Types: Action
Cost: $5
+4 Cards.

While this is in play, when you buy a card, gain a Victory cards costing less than it.

2 votes:

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Quagmire
Types: Victory
Cost: $3
Worth 1 VP.

When you gain this, trash 3 cards from a Supply pile.

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Hinterland
Types: Action
Cost: $4
Swap the cards in your hand with the cards on your Hinterland mat.

When you gain this, gain a Silver, putting it on your Hinterland mat.

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Pilgrimage
Types: Action
Cost: $3
+1 Action. +2 Buys.

While this is in play, when you gain a Victory card, Victory cards cost $1 less this turn, but not less than $0.

Clarification: Gaining Victory cards multiple times in a turn while this is in play does reduce the cost of Victory cards each time.

Quote from: cluckyb
Factory
Types: Action – Reaction
Cost: $4
+1 Action. You may discard a card that is not a Victory card. If you do, gain a copy of it.

When you gain a card, you may reveal this from your hand and put it onto your deck. If you do, put the gained card into your hand.

Quote from: Titandrake
Sanctuary
Types: Action
Cost: $5
+2 Cards. Discard 2 cards.

When you gain this, set aside a card from your hand. Return that card to your deck at the end of the game.

Quote from: SheCantSayNo
Midnight Gathering
Types: Action
Cost: $5
+1 Action. You may put your deck into your discard pile. Look through your discard pile. You may reveal an Action card from it; put it into your hand.

Quote from: sudgy
Fence
Types: Action
Cost: $5
While this is in play, when you buy a card, gain a card costing exactly $1 more than it.

Quote from: XerxesPraelor
Shaman
Types: Action
Cost: $4
+1 Action. Name a card. Reveal cards from your deck until you reveal an Action card with that name. Put it into your hand and discard the rest.

When you gain this, each other player discards any number of cards from his hand then draws a card per card discarded.

Quote from: Wrclass
Grandee
Types: Action
Cost: $5
+1 Buy. Gain a card costing up to $4.

When you gain this, gain a Gold; each other player gains a Silver.

Quote from: Guy Srinivasan
Stranger
Types: Action
Cost: $5
+1 Card. +1 Action. +1 Buy. Each other player discards the top card of his deck. Copies of cards revealed this way cost $2 less this turn, but not less than $0.

1 vote:

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Vendor
Types: Action
Cost: $1
+1 Action

When you buy this, +2 Buys.

Quote from: ConMan
Workers' Co-operative
Types: Action
Cost: $5
+1 Buy. +$3.

While this is in play, when you buy a card, each other player may gain a card costing less than it.

Quote from: Watno
Shoreline
Types: Victory
Cost: $6
Worth 4 VP.

When you gain this, +1 Buy.

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Sultan
Types: Action
Cost: $5
+2 Cards. +1 Action. Discard a card.

When you gain this, look at the top 3 cards of your deck. Discard any number of them and put the rest back in any order.

Quote from: Julle
Construct
Types: Action
Cost: $3
Trash a card from your hand. Gain two cards each costing exactly $1 more than it.

When you gain this during your Action phase, +1 Card and +1 Action.

Quote from: awildnoobappeared
Missionary
Types: Action
Cost: $4
Reveal cards from your deck until you reveal a Victory card. Gain an Action or Treasure card costing up to the Victory card's cost, putting it onto your deck. Discard the revealed cards.

When you buy this, reveal a card from your hand. If that card costs $6 or less, gain a copy of it.

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Wagon Raider
Types: Action – Attack
Cost: $4
Each other player may put a card costing more than $2 from their hand into your discard pile. If he doesn't, he gains a Curse.

While this is in play, when you buy a Gold, you may gain a Province instead.

0 votes:

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Bargain
Types: Action
Cost: $4
You may trash a card from your hand. Gain a card costing exactly $1 more than it, a card costing exactly $2 more than it, and a card costing exactly $3 more than it. Discard down to 2 cards in hand.

When you gain this, each player (including you) may trash a card from his hand.

Quote from: Beyond Awesome
Painful Journey
Types: Action – Curse – Reaction
Cost: $4
Discard any number of Curses. +2 Cards for each Curse discarded.

Worth –1 VP. When you would buy a Victory card, you may trash this from your hand. If you do, gain a Victory card costin less than the bought card and gain 2 Curses.

Clarification: You cannot gain this card when another card instructs you to gain a Curse.

Quote from: jackelfrink
Lucky Coin
Type: Treasure
Cost: $4
Worth $1.

When you gain this, each other player with at least 5 cards in hand reveals his hand and discards a card that you choose.
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Re: Treasure Chest Design Contest — Card #2: Hinterlands
« Reply #18 on: September 03, 2013, 09:37:46 am »
+2

Hinterlands also has sort of a "simple" card theme.
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Re: Treasure Chest Design Contest — Card #2: Hinterlands
« Reply #19 on: September 03, 2013, 02:22:28 pm »
+1

Hinterlands also has sort of a "simple" card theme.
Sort of. The top parts of the cards tend to be simple. A few are pretty wordy (Jack of all Trades, Noble Brigand, Oracle). The bottom parts also tend to be straightforward.

I plan to submit an entry for Hinterlands. Just need to think it over a little.
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Re: Treasure Chest Design Contest — Card #2: Hinterlands
« Reply #20 on: September 03, 2013, 07:27:01 pm »
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Hinterlands also has sort of a "simple" card theme.
And another minor theme - Icebergs. By which I mean cards that are simple, maybe even vanilla, "above the line", but have a lot more going on "below the line" in terms of in-play or when-buy/gain or Reaction effects. This kind of ties in to the plan for Hinterlands to have been the third standalone set.

Also, Iceberg would be a great Victory-Reaction card.
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Re: Treasure Chest Design Contest — Card #2: Hinterlands
« Reply #21 on: September 03, 2013, 09:50:01 pm »
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Hinterlands also has sort of a "simple" card theme.
And another minor theme - Icebergs. By which I mean cards that are simple, maybe even vanilla, "above the line", but have a lot more going on "below the line" in terms of in-play or when-buy/gain or Reaction effects. This kind of ties in to the plan for Hinterlands to have been the third standalone set.

Also, Iceberg would be a great Victory-Reaction card.
:rolleyes:

In my time zone, ConMan's post was at 12:43 am and Wrclass's post was at 9:37 am.  I got confused because I was thinking that 12:43 am comes after 9:37 am (12 > 9).  Sigh.
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Re: Treasure Chest Design Contest — Card #2: Hinterlands
« Reply #22 on: September 04, 2013, 11:14:52 am »
+2

I don't know about anyone else, but Hinterlands seems much harder to think of a good card idea for than Prosperity was, for me. I had a Prosperity card made in about 5 minutes, while Hinterlands I'm still at square one.
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Re: Treasure Chest Design Contest — Card #2: Hinterlands
« Reply #23 on: September 04, 2013, 11:24:22 am »
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I don't know about anyone else, but Hinterlands seems much harder to think of a good card idea for than Prosperity was, for me. I had a Prosperity card made in about 5 minutes, while Hinterlands I'm still at square one.
Same for me...When I heard of the contest, I came up with rough ideas for every expansion except Hinterlands.  I'm not sure that the card I have now is worth submitting.
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Re: Treasure Chest Design Contest — Card #2: Hinterlands
« Reply #24 on: September 04, 2013, 11:59:47 am »
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I don't know about anyone else, but Hinterlands seems much harder to think of a good card idea for than Prosperity was, for me. I had a Prosperity card made in about 5 minutes, while Hinterlands I'm still at square one.

I have an idea I like for Guilds (which was originally for Prosperity, but then it worked better for Guilds).  I have an idea I really like for Dark Ages, although the reasons I like it might be dumb.  I have a mediocre idea for Cornucopia which is surprisingly difficult to word properly.  I actually have two for Alchemy, but one is a joke... which I think could still be fairly interesting. :P

I didn't have anything for Hinterlands, but I just made something pretty funky.

I don't have anything for Intrigue, which I find difficult because the theme is very... open?  The main theme is just "choices", which doesn't provide a lot of direction.

I don't have anything for Seaside, which also feels very open to me.  But I find that most durations feel clunky unless they are simple, but vanilla durations are pretty well covered already.  Of course, Duration typing isn't necessary (but I expect that the first contest at least will have a Duration winner).




In all of these contest, can we have one extra voting stage of like 5? I want to playtest before I vote, but 40 cards is way too much for that.

Why not just pick your favourites and playtest those?  Or if you read the comments, you can get a sense of the frontrunners.
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