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Chase's non randomized sets of 10
« on: April 22, 2018, 09:15:16 pm »
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I like to make non randomized sets of 10 to play. I've made two that are absolutely brilliant.
Black market (put every kingdom card in the pile instead of 60.) bane: coin of the realm menagerie tunnel university silk road crown jester tactician fairground prince                 p&c    shltr                    use only one knight one castle and one of each split pile
You start with all the heirlooms and the shelters so menagerie is crazy powerful especially if you set it aside with prince
Combos:bm/men bm/tac bm/fair men/fair tun/tac




The other one is: ghost town menagerie bridge nomad camp silk road bazaar laboratory noble kings court city quarter
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Re: Chase's non randomized sets of 10
« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2018, 03:51:02 am »
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Royal blacksmith fortress market square baron oracle chapel jester crown charm fairground
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Re: Chase's non randomized sets of 10
« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2018, 04:58:31 am »
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You start with all the heirlooms and the shelters so menagerie is crazy powerful
So you open Menagerie/Menagerie because they are double-Labs with 100% probability after the first shuffle. Where's the strategic subtlety, where is the difficulty about evaluating the Kingdom?
Changing game parameters such that one card is overpowered isn't what I would call an interesting Kingdom.
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Re: Chase's non randomized sets of 10
« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2018, 05:16:04 am »
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There are many threads for designed kingdoms. For instance here: http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=18200.msg753955#msg753955. Please avoid creating new threads if possible to contribute to an already existing one instead.

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Re: Chase's non randomized sets of 10
« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2018, 09:57:41 am »
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You start with all the heirlooms and the shelters so menagerie is crazy powerful
So you open Menagerie/Menagerie because they are double-Labs with 100% probability after the first shuffle. Where's the strategic subtlety, where is the difficulty about evaluating the Kingdom?
Changing game parameters such that one card is overpowered isn't what I would call an interesting Kingdom.


But later in the game cursed gold and lucky coin make it more difficult
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Re: Chase's non randomized sets of 10
« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2018, 10:07:59 am »
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You start with all the heirlooms and the shelters so menagerie is crazy powerful
So you open Menagerie/Menagerie because they are double-Labs with 100% probability after the first shuffle. Where's the strategic subtlety, where is the difficulty about evaluating the Kingdom?
Changing game parameters such that one card is overpowered isn't what I would call an interesting Kingdom.
http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php

But later in the game cursed gold and lucky coin make it more difficult
If you misplay them, yes. Otherwise, no.
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Re: Chase's non randomized sets of 10
« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2018, 10:08:12 am »
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shltr                   

Is it that much faster to type that instead of "shelters"? The formatting of your first kingdom is very difficult to read; you have to comb through it to actually find the list of cards. Using unnecessary abbreviations makes it harder.


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Re: Chase's non randomized sets of 10
« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2018, 11:20:21 am »
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If the first one is using a Bane shouldn't it be a set of 11??
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Re: Chase's non randomized sets of 10
« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2018, 01:13:02 pm »
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Chase, may I suggest the f.ds extension for chrome and firefox? I makes the kingdoms a lot easier to read.

Also, I like your kingdoms, I wish more people played non-randomized sets of 10. We have some threads with thematic kingdoms, kingdom design contests, etc.
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Re: Chase's non randomized sets of 10
« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2018, 09:04:11 pm »
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Chase, may I recommend that you put commas between the names of cards? That alone will make your lists much easier to parse.
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Re: Chase's non randomized sets of 10
« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2018, 10:56:47 pm »
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Chase, may I recommend that you put commas between the names of cards? That alone will make your lists much easier to parse.
It's already maximally easy to parse, he's just including some obscure fan cards that he has printed out and likes to include in his games, like "of", "bane:", "shltr", "Combos:bm/men bm/tac bm/fair men/fair tun/tac" and "kings". 

I recommend that you not print out "kings", it has all those kingmaking aspects us DXV fanboys dread.
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Re: Chase's non randomized sets of 10
« Reply #11 on: April 24, 2018, 12:31:54 am »
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I just barely made my favorite game
I named it lots of draw
Fishing village, smithy, bandit camp, den of sin, festival, wharf, fairground, hunting ground, bank, royal blacksmith
Donate, obelisk


That is my non interactive version. I made another version that is very interactive but still has the main theme of draw
Smithy, bandit camp, den of sin, festival, knights, rabble, wharf, fairground, hunting ground, royal blacksmith


Donate, pathfinding, ferry, inheritance, orchard, obelisk, tower


I would love to hear which version you think is better


Also where is the contest that McGarnacle was talking about
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Re: Chase's non randomized sets of 10
« Reply #12 on: April 24, 2018, 05:08:33 am »
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Re: Chase's non randomized sets of 10
« Reply #13 on: April 24, 2018, 05:12:42 am »
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Also where is the contest that McGarnacle was talking about

http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?board=32.0

That's fan card creation, not kingdom design. This is a kingdom design contest.
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Re: Chase's non randomized sets of 10
« Reply #14 on: April 24, 2018, 10:03:16 am »
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Also where is the contest that McGarnacle was talking about

http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?board=32.0

That's fan card creation, not kingdom design. This is a kingdom design contest.


But that's for 2014. Where's the one for 2018
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Re: Chase's non randomized sets of 10
« Reply #15 on: April 24, 2018, 10:24:33 am »
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Also where is the contest that McGarnacle was talking about

http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?board=32.0

That's fan card creation, not kingdom design. This is a kingdom design contest.


But that's for 2014. Where's the one for 2018

There hasn't been one.
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Re: Chase's non randomized sets of 10
« Reply #16 on: April 24, 2018, 01:54:02 pm »
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Also where is the contest that McGarnacle was talking about

http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?board=32.0

That's fan card creation, not kingdom design. This is a kingdom design contest.


But that's for 2014. Where's the one for 2018

There hasn't been one.

People don't really care about kingdom design here, at least not as much as they used to.
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Re: Chase's non randomized sets of 10
« Reply #17 on: April 24, 2018, 06:39:55 pm »
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Also where is the contest that McGarnacle was talking about

http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?board=32.0

That's fan card creation, not kingdom design. This is a kingdom design contest.


But that's for 2014. Where's the one for 2018

There hasn't been one.

People don't really care about kingdom design here, at least not as much as they used to.

We forgot about this one: http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=15555.msg614801#msg614801

Looks like we never finished the Bracket.
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Re: Chase's non randomized sets of 10
« Reply #18 on: April 26, 2018, 10:14:56 am »
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Here's a fun set I just had:

City Quarter, Overlord, Guardian, Bishop, Rats, Treasury, Governor, Hunting Party, Cartographer, Catacombs. Landmark: Triumphal Arch.

You could probably improve on this by replacing the three cards that were never used (Guardian, Cartographer, Catacombs).
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Re: Chase's non randomized sets of 10
« Reply #19 on: April 26, 2018, 10:29:42 am »
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Pretty crazy one from today:

Urchin, Bishop, Fortress, Militia, Monument, Sacrifice, Forum, Hunting Party, Artisan, Expand, Alms, Donate
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Re: Chase's non randomized sets of 10
« Reply #20 on: April 26, 2018, 06:43:26 pm »
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Here's a fun set I just had:

City Quarter, Overlord, Guardian, Bishop, Rats, Treasury, Governor, Hunting Party, Cartographer, Catacombs. Landmark: Triumphal Arch.

You could probably improve on this by replacing the three cards that were never used (Guardian, Cartographer, Catacombs).


Haunted wood, alchemist, altar


Was it designed?
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Re: Chase's non randomized sets of 10
« Reply #21 on: April 26, 2018, 06:48:03 pm »
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Pretty crazy one from today:

Urchin, Bishop, Fortress, Militia, Monument, Sacrifice, Forum, Hunting Party, Artisan, Expand, Alms, Donate


Wait that sounds to perfect to be randomized. Was it designed?
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Re: Chase's non randomized sets of 10
« Reply #22 on: April 26, 2018, 08:13:24 pm »
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Here's a fun set I just had:

City Quarter, Overlord, Guardian, Bishop, Rats, Treasury, Governor, Hunting Party, Cartographer, Catacombs. Landmark: Triumphal Arch.

You could probably improve on this by replacing the three cards that were never used (Guardian, Cartographer, Catacombs).


Haunted wood, alchemist, altar


Was it designed?
It was not. I posted it here to see how you would improve it.
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Re: Chase's non randomized sets of 10
« Reply #23 on: April 26, 2018, 08:48:32 pm »
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Here's a fun set I just had:

City Quarter, Overlord, Guardian, Bishop, Rats, Treasury, Governor, Hunting Party, Cartographer, Catacombs. Landmark: Triumphal Arch.

You could probably improve on this by replacing the three cards that were never used (Guardian, Cartographer, Catacombs).


Haunted wood, alchemist, altar


Was it designed?
It was not. I posted it here to see how you would improve it.
Did my improvement help at all?
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Re: Chase's non randomized sets of 10
« Reply #24 on: April 26, 2018, 08:56:59 pm »
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Alchemist probably wouldn't see much action on that board; the tempo spent on the Potion is going to hurt you.

Altar... eh, maybe. Hitting 5 is important, but Altar probably isn't the best way to go about it.

Haunted Woods - probably irrelevant. You can get the draw other ways, and it's unlikely people will leave much in their hands in their Buy phase.
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