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Empires Previews #2: Split Piles
« on: May 10, 2016, 11:59:38 am »
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Today, six cards, but only three piles.



So how do these work exactly? The top cards are paired with the bottom ones. Each pile has 5 copies of the first (cheaper) card, then 5 copies of the second (more expensive) card. You can only buy/gain the card on top; if you want the other card, you have to dig it out. There are special randomizers for these piles, that list both cards and have art showing both things. You will see those when the set comes out; the six actual cards will have to do for today. And uh some things in the game care about stats for a pile, and well they go by the randomizer, which usually matches the top card. Young Witch can have Gladiator/Fortune as its bane (and then both cards will do the trick), Training lets you put your +$1 token on the Catapult/Rocks pile (and then both cards give +$1), and so on.

Gladiator has a cute interaction with the player to your left. If you manage to show a card they don't have, you get +$1, hooray, but you also eat a Gladiator from the pile. That way you are likely to eventually uncover Fortune. Which doubles your money, yeeha. And may come with some Golds; a reward for the players with Gladiators. If you were wondering how much doubling your money was worth, well, about $16, but you don't need it all in advance. And it's not cumulative because even at ~$16 that was too much. It can help pay for itself, I will just point out that part.

Settlers lets you get back a Copper; try not to draw it right after shuffling. And Bustling Village gets back a Settlers which gets back a Copper. And it gives you +3 Actions; that's just how Bustling it is.

At long last, we have the Dominion Catapult. Well it's been a great run guys. And it doesn't even let you throw something at the board. Catapult hurts the other players based on what you throw I mean trash; if you trash a Treasure they discard, if you trash a card for $3+ they get Cursed, and if a card has both attributes they both discard and get a Curse, yeeha. It's like a rodeo in here. As it happens Rocks is a Treasure costing $4, and does something useful when gained or trashed; it's just the perfect thing to Catapult. And it's called Rocks! I couldn't help myself.
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Re: Empires Previews #2: Split Piles
« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2016, 12:01:41 pm »
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Anybody else hate the gladiator/fortune art?
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Re: Empires Previews #2: Split Piles
« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2016, 12:06:07 pm »
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Earlier than yesterday after all.


That fortune sure costs a fortune.
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Re: Empires Previews #2: Split Piles
« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2016, 12:07:34 pm »
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Anybody else hate the gladiator/fortune art?

Nothing against Kelli Stakenas as a person, but her other Dominion art is among my least favorite (Candlestick Maker, Masterpiece, Royal Carriage).

I do like the other 4 we got to see today though, especially the art for Rocks (creating a compelling picture of rocks isn't an easy thing to do!).
« Last Edit: May 10, 2016, 12:11:14 pm by ben_king »
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Re: Empires Previews #2: Split Piles
« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2016, 12:08:35 pm »
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Isn't Rocks just strictly worse than Copper?
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Re: Empires Previews #2: Split Piles
« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2016, 12:09:00 pm »
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I am loving the themes of the new cards.
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Re: Empires Previews #2: Split Piles
« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2016, 12:10:08 pm »
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Earlier than yesterday after all.


That fortune sure costs a fortune.

But doubling your money is very, very good. It's more like $8 note and then $8 on your next turn, but easier to pay off since you can double your money.
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Re: Empires Previews #2: Split Piles
« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2016, 12:10:22 pm »
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I can put my Adventures token on an action supply pile and still get the benefits when I play the treasures, that's something new.

Also I'm happy to play my Settler/Bustling Villages online, otherwise that probably takes longer than Hunting Party stacks.

Most importantly: Will SCSN like Catapult cause it does something nice with those garbage Silvers or will he like it less since it makes silver less uselss?
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Re: Empires Previews #2: Split Piles
« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2016, 12:11:22 pm »
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Isn't Rocks just strictly worse than Copper?

It gains silvers
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Re: Empires Previews #2: Split Piles
« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2016, 12:12:31 pm »
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Isn't Rocks just strictly worse than Copper?

Not if catapult is in the kingdom (cough)

This makes a lot of fan cards easier who relied on specific things to be in the kingdom, split-piles were the solution all along!
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Re: Empires Previews #2: Split Piles
« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2016, 12:12:41 pm »
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Isn't Rocks just strictly worse than Copper?
No because of the on gain/trash effect. Also, as it costs $4, it's better than Copper with TfB cards (salvager), and also protects against knights (by getting trashed instead of something better).

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Re: Empires Previews #2: Split Piles
« Reply #11 on: May 10, 2016, 12:13:41 pm »
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Isn't Rocks just strictly worse than Copper?
Amazing how expensive rocks are these days. I need to stop buying silver bars of Ebay, I'm missing out on the real money-maker here.
« Last Edit: May 10, 2016, 12:17:24 pm by ThetaSigma12 »
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Re: Empires Previews #2: Split Piles
« Reply #12 on: May 10, 2016, 12:14:11 pm »
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Isn't Rocks just strictly worse than Copper?

Without context maybe. Obviously it gains you Silvers and the idea is that you are loading your Catapault which is the first 5 cards of that stack. So it is a card that you will want to trash to Catapault because it gives you a Silver and your opponent a Curse and a discard.
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Re: Empires Previews #2: Split Piles
« Reply #13 on: May 10, 2016, 12:17:27 pm »
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Settlers/Bustling Village seems pretty strong
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Re: Empires Previews #2: Split Piles
« Reply #14 on: May 10, 2016, 12:17:34 pm »
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Catapult rocks.
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Re: Empires Previews #2: Split Piles
« Reply #15 on: May 10, 2016, 12:20:17 pm »
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Anybody else hate the gladiator/fortune art?

Well, "Still life with coins and feet" is not exactly what I was expecting.

I don't like the style and the colors, but I could get over it.
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Re: Empires Previews #2: Split Piles
« Reply #16 on: May 10, 2016, 12:21:01 pm »
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I'm guessing I can't play Actions in my Buy phase if my +1 Action token is on Rocks?  But if I buy a Villa, I will have that extra Action when I revert to my Action phase?
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Re: Empires Previews #2: Split Piles
« Reply #17 on: May 10, 2016, 12:21:10 pm »
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If I put my +1 action token on catapult, play a rocks in my buy phase, and then buy a villa, will I be able to use that action from Rocks?

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Re: Empires Previews #2: Split Piles
« Reply #18 on: May 10, 2016, 12:22:03 pm »
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Two soldiers stand at the foot of their catapult.
One makes his report, wiping the sweat from his brow.
"We've run out of ammo! The rocks we brought with, our ill-gotten gains, even our precious silver pieces!"
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Re: Empires Previews #2: Split Piles
« Reply #19 on: May 10, 2016, 12:24:36 pm »
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Bustling Village is essentially a Level 2 City, with a 3rd Action instead of a Buy, when have a Settlers and Copper in your discard pile. Sounds cwazy.
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Re: Empires Previews #2: Split Piles
« Reply #20 on: May 10, 2016, 12:28:25 pm »
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Hey wait a minute...

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Re: Empires Previews #2: Split Piles
« Reply #21 on: May 10, 2016, 12:35:39 pm »
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Time to catapult my IGG
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Re: Empires Previews #2: Split Piles
« Reply #22 on: May 10, 2016, 12:39:59 pm »
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Bustling Village is essentially a Level 2 City, with a 3rd Action instead of a Buy, when have a Settlers and Copper in your discard pile. Sounds cwazy.

Well, it balances itself a bit in the sense that if you draw your deck, you usually won't have stuff in your discard pile.
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Re: Empires Previews #2: Split Piles
« Reply #23 on: May 10, 2016, 12:44:19 pm »
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Hey wait a minute...

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Clerk: Action, $2  ★★★★☆
+1 Card
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Look through your discard pile. You may reveal a Copper from it and put it into your hand.

LFN, did you get to suggest a card?!

Yes, Settlers is Clerk. It found a happy home as one half of a split pile in Empires.
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Re: Empires Previews #2: Split Piles
« Reply #24 on: May 10, 2016, 12:45:22 pm »
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'We're Settlers; we settle on getting Copper for economy.'

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