The whole idea that "a baker can be male or female, we just depicted one that happened to be female" is not how people actually respond to the cards. When Baker is female, players feel like all 10 Bakers are female. The fact that a baker can be male doesn't matter; these ones are all female.
Back to the actual topic, if you still don't get, despite countless repetitions, that the last step of the traveller line is Tournament on steroids (you need to have 2 Provinces or a Province and a Duchy or a Duchy and 3 Estates in your hand) I cannot help you.
The conditions is harder than that of Tournament so even with mirror play and greening that happens at roughly the same time at the end card draw decides whether you will have the VP cards with a cumulated cost of 10 or not. And the reward, 10 VPs plus end game trigger, is extremely good.
Reading the thread title, i thought the last card would be a Reserve saying: "At the start of your turn, you may call this, to end the game." Which i think sounds at least interesting.That is I good idea that I haven't thought of. Probably we could just change the Khan to this.
I don't think so. In a card game, when you have to bring together multiple cards from a bigger group, it should be less luck dependent than matching up 2 single cards. (Same as with rolling dice - the more dice you use, the more likely you are to hit the expectation value). Sure there are still freak values, but they are rare.This. Basically Tournament on steroids.On the Silk Road (Action-Traveller) Cost:
+1 Action. Discard any number of Victory cards and add up their total cost in. If they cost...
to
: +1 Card, +
.
to
: +3 Cards.
More than
Here is the biggest random factor. Not only is the randomizer effect bigger than with typical Tournement (which I find absolutely dreadful, even if I win the race), this is just the Province race to the luxe.
It is very very unlikely to draw On the Silk Road with a lucky early Province + 2 Estates if you didn't prepare for it somehow.
Interesting point. If you play only non-random sets, this could be an issue. Although tristan is right that it is quite hard to pull off with currently available cards.Theoretical considerations of virtually impossible edge cases are fun but practical relevance is the only thing the matters for actual games:Two of these with the +card and +action tokens on the pike give you infinite money. Add the +buy token and you can just pick up the entire Supply.QuoteMarco Polo (Action-Traveller) Cost:
You may put this on top of your deck. If you do, +
When you discard this from play, you may exchange it for Board a Ship.
Ignoring Teacher this is conditional on both Events being in the supply. If you play with only 2 Events, as it is recommended, it is not possible to actually get the +buy token. But even if you play with 2 Events the chance to get precisely these 3 Events is 3/20 * 2/19 * 1/18 = 1/1140.
So you either need to play Teacher 3 times or you need to have the 5, 6 and 8 to trigger 3 Events. If you have achieved any of these you can more or less gain a shitload of Provinces or Colonies with any deck.
I don't think so. In a card game, when you have to bring together multiple cards from a bigger group, it should be less luck dependent than matching up 2 single cards. (Same as with rolling dice - the more dice you use, the more likely you are to hit the expectation value). Sure there are still freak values, but they are rare.This. Basically Tournament on steroids.On the Silk Road (Action-Traveller) Cost:
+1 Action. Discard any number of Victory cards and add up their total cost in
More than
Here is the biggest random factor. Not only is the randomizer effect bigger than with typical Tournement (which I find absolutely dreadful, even if I win the race), this is just the Province race to the luxe.
But by buying into this chain, you'll be slower to Provinces unless you've had a good plan all along. Also, if you actually think about the effects, they aren't that amazing.Hum, I intended it to be strong if you don't exchange it. You could also discard just one more expensive card to get the double Lab. Should it be stronger?
0-2 = Peddler. You don't have to discard for this so it's always available.
3-10 = Double Lab. That sounds amazing until you remember that you had to discard cards for it. You draw 3 cards, but you're also discarding at least 2 cards! This makes it barely better than Cellar. Possibly worse, actually, since you can't discard Copper to it.
Sorry, I don't see your point. Please explain why the game ending trigger makes it unbalancable. I think it is a nice effect to try out.Maybe the Khan should only give 5Khan costs 10 so 5VPs could very well be too few. You cannot balance this card. Either it provides too few or too much VPs. The game ending trigger is its crux.? Or just no VP at all?
This would make it much trickier for the leading player.
Note that if you don't manage to exchange On the Silk Road, you will get a pretty good boost for your current turn.
? Or just no VP at all?I'm not sure if the Duration works as intended (and I'm not 100% sure what is intended). "Pay an Action" is ambiguous in meaning.
Visiting Bagdad is easy to change when there is any kind of village (or throne roomed cantrip). But if that's not possible; it's a dud.You could always board a second ship!
But no, I don't like things with a high amount of randomness, and this feels as something that belongs into that category.I did not test it. Just an idea. If it turns out to be too random, we could always lower the points for visiting the Khan.
Marco Polo (Action-Traveller) Cost:
You may put this on top of your deck. If you do, +
When you discard this from play, you may exchange it for Board a Ship.
Board a Ship (Action-Duration-Traveller) Cost:
+1 Action
If you end your Action phase with at least 1 unused Action, play this again at the start of your next turn.
When you discard this from play, you may exchange it for Visiting Bagdad.
Visiting Bagdad (Action-Traveller) Cost:
Gain a Gold. Pay an Action. If you don't, put this into your hand.
When you discard this from play, you may exchange it for On the Silk Road.
On the Silk Road (Action-Traveller) Cost:
+1 Action. Discard any number of Victory cards and add up their total cost in
More than
Visit the Khan (Action-Victory) Cost:
The game ends after this turn.
Worth 10
Also Andrea Meyer's "Bewitched Spiele" have female gendered rules (e.g. "Frigiti"). Although it is just her self-publishing company, she has a pretty good reputation in the German boardgaming world.i personally never heard of a german rulebook (for a game not exclusively aimed at girls) that did this.
The Swiss game "Anno Domini" has female gender pronouns in its rulebook. But that's the only example I know, and maybe this kind of thing is handled differently in Switzerland.
What's wrong with "Spieler(in)"? And then use "er/sie" throughout the text.Rulebooks are not fun to read for people anyway. This would make it even harder to read.
The whole idea that "a baker can be male or female, we just depicted one that happened to be female" is not how people actually respond to the cards. When Baker is female, players feel like all 10 Bakers are female. The fact that a baker can be male doesn't matter; these ones are all female.
For the German translation. Please make sure they use the female grammatical form when there are "female" people in the art.For me personally, this is just beyond the scope. Feel free to contact the German publisher and complain yourself... or the Hungarian publisher or Polish publisher or whoever.
So far they've only done it with witches and very few other cards like duchess. But they used "Bäcker" instead of "Bäckerin" for baker, "Wildhüter" instead of "Wildhüterin" for ranger, "Geschichtenerzähler" instead of "Geschichtenerzählerin" for storyteller etc.
I really appreciate that Donald made sure there are more women in the art. But the (wrong) translation spoils it.
Well, I'll try contacting Altenburger about the proper genders in card titles, since I think it's safe to assume there are female characters again in the new expansion. I don't know how much that will accomplish since they will still need to get a little bit more information than only getting the transcripts of the card names and effects and I don't know how the relationships between publishers and their internal structures work to allow that. I hope that they handle the translations themselves and don't outsource it to another company at least.
My intention is that you set aside all copies of Penny that you wish to set aside at once, along with one card from the top of your deck per Penny.If you want to reveal all Pennys at the same time, it should be something like:
Hireling is going to be interesting to track, even so.Got me.
Accolade (Event) $3
+1 Buy. Choose an Action that you have in play. Put it on your Tavern mat.
(You may play non-Reserve Action cards in your Tavern Mat as if they were in your hand.)
QuoteSmudged Family Tree | Action | $7
Choose one: set aside an Action from your hand to your Family Tree mat (if adding a third, trash the first); or play this card as if it had the cards on the mat's concatenated descriptions (you may not invoke the effects of Smudged Family Tree), in order of their addition, until it leaves play.
Even if there was room, I wouldn't want to forbid Fortress by name, but restricting the concatenation to on-play effects only would make Durations half-worthless.
Smudged Family Tree | Action | $7
Choose one: set aside an Action from your hand to your Family Tree mat (if adding a third, trash the first); or play the cards on your Family Tree mat in order of their addition (they stay set aside).
Draft is too strong, but I think making it "exactly $1 more" might fix it. That eliminates the possibility to trash a Province and gain 2 Provinces. Trashing a $7 would still be very powerful, but it would be pretty rare.I still prefer "no Victory cards". It shouldn't be a potential $0 thinner like Develop is.
Flying Machine is probably weak as a one-shot; given how long it will take you to play one. Probably too strong just without the one-shot part though, so how about something in between?
FLYING MACHINE (Action - Duration - Traveller) - $6*
At the start of your next turn, draw your deck and discard pile.
(This is not in the supply.)
So this does a couple thing to weaken it instead of making it a one-shot. The turn you play it, it's really bad. It also delays the effect even more, like Teacher does. And finally, as a Duration, you can't play it every turn. If you wanted to make it just slightly stronger than that, make it a reserve just like Teacher. Though like with Teacher, I think it will be extremely rare that you don't call it the turn after you play it every time.
Construction wants to ensure that you don't simply play BM into Flying machine with some Buys on hand. Maybe it should even be a bit harsher, like "reveal your hand, trash all Treasures from your hand" instead of only one.
I dont see this as a thing that needs to be punished. It's not a very great strategy, because it's hard to lock your opponent out of the game with that kind of megaturn. Sometimes it will be best, but is that really a problem?QuoteQuoteBut one problem I see is that Flying Machine is probably best on decks that lack trashing or drawing - and two of the cards in the chain provide trashing. So this may end up a self-counter in a way. I think you might want some other effects there, preferably some that go well with big hands, because I think Flying Machine could use a little self-combo. Maybe keep Draft because it's fun, but I would switch construction by something else.Well, Draft provides Trashing but increases the number of your cards (2 for 1). And as I said, Construction is the anti-BM-thing. If you have other ideas for punishing BM, feel free to share. I guess it could be something like Poor House?
Invention itself is the ultimate card for Flying Machine, as it gives you additional Actions and Buys without drawing.
Yeah, well, but if I turn my Estate into two Villages, I still got a lot closer to drawing my deck. And again, BM doesn't need to be punished. If Flying Machine doesn't work for classical engines, and it doesn't work with BM, which decks should it work with?
