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Variants and Fan Cards / Re: Really bad card ideas

« on: March 25, 2014, 12:57:11 pm »

I think I must be misreading Rage Inducer.  Why would it induce rage?  There are some edge cases where it would be useful, but for the most part it is just a dead card.  Dead cards kind of suck, but they aren't rage inducing.  Or at least not for most people.

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Meanwhile, your opponents just wait.

15902

Goko Dominion Online / Re: Dominion Online set selection

« on: March 25, 2014, 12:52:41 pm »

with this logic you could also allow players to play tetris instead of dominion if both choose to, cause, you know, both players have the same experience, so it's fair. the point is that, if player A and B have lots of cards banned, players C and D don't and they play A vs B and C vs D, then you have different players having significantly different experiences and yet are both placed on the same leaderbord, as are the tetris guys.

It's already allowed, you can play Tetris and the one with the lower score resigns the game of Dominion.

EDIT: And this was probably very unfair, too. Me and yed totally had an unfair advantage because we didn't follow the official rules of Dominion and starve to death.

15903

Game Reports / Re: money-less winning kingdoms

« on: March 25, 2014, 12:49:36 pm »

Tactician, Poor House and Horn of Plenty are cards which allow this to happen often enough. Keep an eye out for those cards.

How does Tactician allow this to happen? It doesn't give you coins or an alternative way of gaining cards.

Double tac

...so how do two Tacticians allow this to happen? They still don't give you coins or alternative ways of gaining cards.

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Variants and Fan Cards / Re: Really bad card ideas

« on: March 25, 2014, 12:47:10 pm »

Rage-Quit Inducer

$2
+1 action

You may trash this.

When you trash this, place it into your hand.

If this is the 100th time you have trashed Rage-Quit Inducer this turn, each other player gains a Province

(The counting part makes it even more maddening)

You must count aloud. You must use the same pitch and inflection each time this card is played. You may choose to lose count, but other players may choose to remind you.

Also, you probably want the counter to reset to 0 when it reaches 100...

"I play Rage-Quit Inducer. I gain two coins for a total of two and one action for a total of one. I trash Rage-Quit Inducer, putting it in my hand. That's once. I play Rage-Quit Inducer. I gain two coins for a total of four and one action for a total of one. I trash Rage-Quit Inducer, putting it in my hand. That's twice..."

You don't gain two coins, that's the cost of the card.

EDIT: Damn, I got sarnath'd.

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Goko Dominion Online / Re: Goko Dominion Salvager Discussion

« on: March 25, 2014, 12:43:53 pm »

Recently I play almost daily

That might be it. There are others who don't, and are taking up some of the higher slots on the Isotropish leaderboard but not on the Goko Pro leaderboard.

15906

Dominion General Discussion / Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2014 Edition: $4 cards (Part 2/6)

« on: March 25, 2014, 12:28:59 pm »

it would be a different thing if you meant they are actually better, not just better relative to their cost, but you said that NC is worse than woodcutter, so I assume that's not what you meant.

They are actually better. And NC is actually worse than Woodcutter, not just worse relative to its cost. EDIT: This is my opinion, which HME doesn't necessarily share.

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Game Reports / Re: money-less winning kingdoms

« on: March 25, 2014, 11:37:51 am »

Tactician, Poor House and Horn of Plenty are cards which allow this to happen often enough. Keep an eye out for those cards.

How does Tactician allow this to happen? It doesn't give you coins or an alternative way of gaining cards.

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Dominion General Discussion / Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2014 Edition: $4 cards (Part 2/6)

« on: March 25, 2014, 11:34:56 am »

There's also the issue of slowing down your cycling in the early game, which is sometimes a good thing, but usually isn't.

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Goko Dominion Online / Re: Dominion Online set selection

« on: March 25, 2014, 11:26:59 am »

uh... no, because the 9000 games don't influence your ranking, they're just practise. that's why i said "it shouldn't be possible in pro mode"; you obviously can do that in casual mode if you want to.

how is it unfair? man, in the last thread there were people saying they don't want to have 3 cards banned because that would "create different experiences for players" or something, when in fact pro mode should be alike for everyone. now we got a mode where you could have several hundred cards removed, and you're asking why it's unfair?

It would be unfair because I could ban cards that I'm bad at. If only cards that both players are bad at are being banned, it's not unfair.

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Goko Dominion Online / Re: Dominion Online set selection

« on: March 25, 2014, 10:50:36 am »

because that's a really unfair advantage over players who don't ban anything. if nothing is stopping you from putting all but your favorite 20 cards on the list, whenever two players who do this meet, you might have games with a pool of less than fourty cards. i really think that shouldn't be possible in pro mode.

How is that an advantage and how is that at all unfair? Is it also unfair if I play over 9000 games with 10 of my favorite cards IRL and then play pro mode against people who haven't banned anything?

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Dominion General Discussion / Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2014 Edition: $4 cards (Part 2/6)

« on: March 25, 2014, 10:16:09 am »

I am confused with Death cart. I don't have so much experience with this card, and I must admit that the games where I used it, it was not always a spectacular card. But on the other hand, I still think it's underrated because for me this card seems still very powerful. Let's compare with tactician : tactician has a drawback, you discard your hand when you play it. But the benefit is so strong that it worth it, and it shows that a very bad hand and a very good hand is better than two average hands. For Death cart, I feel it is more or less the same… +$5 worth the pain of gaining two ruins.

Two Ruins can ruin more than one hand and +$5 isn't as good as +5 cards, +1 action, +1 buy.

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Puzzles and Challenges / Re: What Card Am I?

« on: March 25, 2014, 09:33:40 am »

Do nothing, I am like a great expanse of land.
Do something, I am like a glistening coin.
Do everything, I am like the foulest of words.

Mountebank?

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Rules Questions / Re: Overgrown estate + market square

« on: March 25, 2014, 09:25:19 am »

But in the moat secret chamber example, how come you are able to react with the secret chamber twice? Or do you have two of them?

You can react with one as many time as you like. You can also do that with other reaction cards that don't leave you hand.

And that's why all of the Reaction cards either leave your hand (Market Square, Horse Traders, Fool's Gold) or don't do anything useful when revealed multiple times (Moat, Trader, Watchtower).

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Goko Dominion Online / Re: Dominion Online set selection

« on: March 25, 2014, 09:22:31 am »

I like the idea of always-on unlimited mutual veto. So if I (for example) don't want to play with Rebuild and play somebody else who feels the same way, then we won't play with Rebuild. If my opponent doesn't have Rebuild on his/her list, we might play with it, and I'm OK with that. Because the veto is mutual, there's no need for any checkbox either (because I can just leave my veto list empty if I want to opt out), which makes the UI simpler. Also, no need to limit the number of cards on the list, since if my opponent and I agree on a dozen cards we don't want to play with, well why not?

because that would really be cheating on the system. imagine if you put half of all cards on there. well, maybe your opponent only has a few, then it's fine. but what if your opponent did it like you, then there's a good chance for a mutually banned ~150 cards. or what if you put all cards on there except for your favorites? why not, your opponent will have lots of them missing on his list after all. what if everyone starts doing that?

Then why not let them do it? What's the problem?

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Rules Questions / Re: Contraband and Knights

« on: March 25, 2014, 09:16:28 am »

How do you name a card that is not on top of a pile? (on goko)

There's a button that displays all cards.

15916

General Discussion / Re: I am retarded

« on: March 25, 2014, 09:05:42 am »

The problem is when you are using a disability word in cases where you are trying to add an extra bad connotation.  For instance, I would never call a mother who drinks and drives with her children in the car "retarded".  Such a person is an idiot and a fool.

I think that the problem here is that the word "retarded" is not negative enough to describe that kind of behavior. I don't ever use any words for extra bad connotation when referring to people, but for example, I could definitely call Goko Dominion (without Salvager) retarded.

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Dominion Videos and Streams / Re: Videos on specific strategies?

« on: March 24, 2014, 07:52:51 pm »

Didn't werothegreat have a project like this?

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Variants and Fan Cards / Re: Really bad card ideas

« on: March 24, 2014, 07:50:06 pm »

This is a point for Coppersmith, not for Copper itself.

It could make you want to purchase a Copper when you could have purchased a Gold.

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Tournaments and Events / Re: 2014 Kingdom Design Challenge: Rules and Entry Form

« on: March 24, 2014, 05:33:58 pm »

There should be some sort of "prize" for the person who can correctly guess all five cards that were left out.

The last KDC had only a single card left out: Pearl Diver.  I would be surprised if it wasn't among the five this year.

It's my favorite card. Last year, I didn't submit a kingdom.

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Dominion General Discussion / Re: Best Dominion Moments 2014

« on: March 24, 2014, 01:15:18 pm »

http://www.gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?/20140324/log.510d7890e4b0ac7a7a0be611.1395681145942.txt

I open Doctor/Silver with my 6/4 opening, gain 5 Provinces in 12 turns... and lose.

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Tournaments and Events / Re: 2014 Kingdom Design Challenge: Rules and Entry Form

« on: March 24, 2014, 12:27:32 pm »

Secret Chamber can be REALLY good sometimes (most notably Scrying Pool games), and I think building kingdoms that use non-usually-powerful cards is something that appeals some people.

Yeah, it can be really good. In those situations, however, Storeroom fills the same role in a more interesting way.

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Game Reports / Re: Power Kingdom

« on: March 24, 2014, 10:08:13 am »

You actually get a very good combo of two combos.

Yo dawg, I heard you like combos.

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Puzzles and Challenges / Re: What Card Am I?

« on: March 24, 2014, 09:36:13 am »

Also, in a similar vein to an earlier riddle:

In Victory, I am a Prize,
As an Action, I am sometimes a Ruin, and sometimes a Curse in disguise,
And yet I am none of these.

Try to fake me, you cannot break me,
Try to make me, you cannot take me,
But dig deep, and I will give you less than what I am.

Tribute?

If it hits Victory and Action, it's +2 cards +2 actions which could be as good as Trusty Steed, which is a Prize. When you play it as an Action, sometimes it hits two Curses and it's basically a Survivors for your opponent, and sometimes, your opponent has an empty deck and it does nothing.

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Goko Dominion Online / Re: Dominion Online set selection

« on: March 24, 2014, 04:26:13 am »

The whole process for being able to specify kingdoms needs to be streamlined. Iso did it pretty well because you can just c+p parts of randomly generated kingdoms and allow the randomizer to do the rest. Unless I'm missing something, you can't do that in Goko.

I don't understand what "c+p" means.

Copy & paste.

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Game Reports / Re: My Apothecary Engine That Couldn't

« on: March 24, 2014, 03:59:23 am »

I think you would have wanted to get a Militia.