So I am compiling a list of what everyone has said about Andrew's reaction as that seems to be the focus now as no one is really saying that they are lynching him solely for the "slip" despite being the main catalyst for most people voting him. I have an idea of what I am going to find here, but I want to put it out there before I jump to a conclusion... I have removed myself, Andrew and ADK as we aren't voting or intending to vote him.
For reference slip occurs
here: at post 187.
1. Archetype -
says response is scummy, doesn't elaborate;
finds reactions scummy, no elaboration3. XerxesPraelor -
Andrew too "self-aware;
says that Andrew wanted to know how to react and carefully combing posts4. xeiron -
undefined scummy feeling on andrew5. faust -
says reaction to being called out is scummy, doesn't elaborate;
elaborates, but really I think goes in with an attitude of thinking he is scum and twists and manipulates posts to make them scummy, specifically saying he is "not responding rationally, appeals to emotion, make the case sound weaker than it is, and forces an end to the discussion";
says how Andrew should have reacted if town6. Twistedarcher -
calling it too calm;
can't elaborate;
posts are saying hte same things over and over again;
7. Witherweaver -
finally chimes in with an opinion and says that he went back and that Andrew was overly defensive from the beginning;
answering Andrew's questions, basically saying "but it feels to me like people have been explaining and that you're just hanging onto the "nobody has a reason" defense." which I think hasn't been true through out as I have outlined many people who just said "andrew is reacting scummy" left it at that and then only answered when pressed or didn't answer at all; [url=http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=9962.msg360796#msg360796]further answers to questions saying "So maybe it would be more accurate to call it a "nobody has a valid reason" or "nobody can explain their reason" argument"8. shraeye -
found andrew's reaction to thinking scum must be on his wagon scummy This is actually one area that I do agree with!
9. sudgy -
says he is fighting a lynch more here than in Adventure time;
says he overreacted, played different than in AdTime; similar play to DWI12. Jimmmmm - as far as I can tell no specific talk about reactions
13. ashersky -
doesn't like his reaction because he never tried to clarify... something I believe I have shown to be false a few posts after this I won't reference, but basically saying that Andrew never used the magic words that ashersky was looking for that apparently would have stopped him from being a scum read?
So what do i get from all of this, some interesting stuff....
1. andrew's reactions are being called all sorts of things: overthetop, incredulous, fake, frustrated, emotional, too calm, reactionary, selfaware, not "how I would have done it" etc, etc.
2. There is a legitimate case for Andrew getting frustrated. Nearly all of the early votes were accompanied with little to no explanation just... "he is acting scummy." This I think explains the aggressive, reactionary and frustrating posts that he provides
3. which then are interpreted as him scrambling or being scummy for being frusrated because people aren't fully answering his questions.
4. I do think that for the most part at this point people have answered his questions, but are continuing to harp on him for things that simply aren't true thus compounding the frustrations for him.
really for me, what I see here is a lynch mob. And someone trying to face down that lynch mob as best he can and getting extremely frustrated in the process. Frustration isn't a scumtell. People say it is. But it isn't. It is a losing tell. Andrew thinks he is going to lose this argument and he probably is going to (he might not lose the game, but no one wants to be lynched day1 in any game, let alone a cool RMM one) so yeah... he is going to react poorly to this. I don't buy the comparison to DWI... we lynched you sudgy because the reason wasn't poor. It was solid. Your reaction to it had very little to do with it ultimately...
I really don't expect this post to have a great effect.
It left me with scum reads on WW, faust, sudgy and Archetype. I consistently have scum reads on those last 3, so those are tempered a bit. Possibly scum reads on TA and Jimmmm, but not nearly as much.