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[Teproc]

So sad. Cristiano Ronaldo was almost out of this World Cup (he still probably is, but still).

[yuma]

Start an online petition so that Germany and USA will agree to a 0-0 tie so they can both advance, Germany first, USA second! Both can start subs and rest everyone and just pass the ball around for 90 minutes. I think it is a plan!!!

[Teproc]

Start an online petition so that Germany and USA will agree to a 0-0 tie so they can both advance, Germany first, USA second! Both can start subs and rest everyone and just pass the ball around for 90 minutes. I think it is a plan!!!

You know, Jürgen Klinsmann and Joachim Löw are good friends (Klinsmann was Löw's assistant in 2006 I believe)...

Also, that has actually happened once (Austria vs... Germany, in the 70's I think).

[AndrewisFTTW]

WOW.

[jonts26]

That ending was brutal. Ugh. Still a draw is a pretty good outcome all things considered.

[popsofctown]

I dislike a competition where undefeated teams get eliminated.

While it is possible, it isn't exactly likely, and given the low amount of ties in this World Cup, it's very unlikely that this will happen.

My brother told me it happened in a previous World Cup.  It shakes my faith in the design of the game and tournament in general, even if it isn't likely this time around

[popsofctown]

i got out of the shower and my parents were yelling about that stoppage time goal.  usa goalie just needed to lift his arm more

[ashersky]

So painful.  This feels like a loss.

[jonts26]

So painful.  This feels like a loss.

Even if USA loses to germany, we have a good shot to advance. Portugal is likely to beat Ghana but they have a ton of goal differential to make up for first tiebreaker.

[dondon151]

i got out of the shower and my parents were yelling about that stoppage time goal.  usa goalie just needed to lift his arm more

Those balls are hard to defend.

[jonts26]

i got out of the shower and my parents were yelling about that stoppage time goal.  usa goalie just needed to lift his arm more

Those balls are hard to defend.

That was intentional, right?

[Teproc]

I dislike a competition where undefeated teams get eliminated.

While it is possible, it isn't exactly likely, and given the low amount of ties in this World Cup, it's very unlikely that this will happen.

My brother told me it happened in a previous World Cup.  It shakes my faith in the design of the game and tournament in general, even if it isn't likely this time around

That's... a little weird. When it happens, it's because other teams did poorly. Here's the most recent example (in 2010) :

Group F of the World Cup (Paraguay, Slovak Republic, New Zealand, Italy) :

Italie and Paraguay tie (1-1)
New Zealand and Slovak Republic tie (1-1)
Paraguay beats Slovak Republic (2-0)
Italy and New Zealand tie (1-1)
Slovak Republic beats Italy (3-2)
Paraguay and New Zealand tie (0-0)

Paraguay has 5 points (Win/Tie/Tie), Slovak Republic has 4 points (Win/Tie/Loss), New Zealand has 3 points (Tie/Tie/Tie), Italy has 2 points (Tie/Tie/Loss). Paraguay and Slovak Republic advance, New Zealand is out without losing a game.

To avoid this situation, you'd have to go back to the old scoring system (it changed with the '94 World Cup I believe) where a win was a only worth 2 points. The reason this was changed to wins being worth 3 points is to rewarding actually scoring goals and make ties less appealing, which forces teams to actually go out there and try to score. I don't think there's any problem with New Zealand being eliminated there : sure, they didn't lose a game, but they didn't win one either.

I'm sure there's an example where a team goes Win/Tie/Tie and still doesn't make it because of the tiebreaker, but again, it would be a case of rewarding the more offensive team, which is good for the game.

PPE : I don't know why Portugal would be likely to beat Ghana. I would bet on a tie, and based on how Ghana played against Germany, I'd say a Ghana win is more likely than a Portugal one.

[soulnet]

PPE : I don't know why Portugal would be likely to beat Ghana. I would bet on a tie, and based on how Ghana played against Germany, I'd say a Ghana win is more likely than a Portugal one.

I agree. Portugal as a team is so overrated And even if Ronaldo were playing good games, which he isn't, its not enough. Its not the same having Real Madrid assisting you than having Portugal.

Also, Ghana has a good shot at advancing with a win, because, if USA loses, they only need one of those games to have a more than 1 difference, while Portugal needs more than 3. That may Ghana's team a lot more motivated than Portugal's, whose players could easily feel already eliminated at this point.

I would say the US really needs to take at least a tie against Germany. Also, please do not beat Germany, I do not want Argentina to face them once again for the quarterfinals.

[ashersky]

I'm sure there's an example where a team goes Win/Tie/Tie and still doesn't make it because of the tiebreaker, but again, it would be a case of rewarding the more offensive team, which is good for the game.

This would be USA in 2014 if Ghana wins by 2 and USA loses by 1.

[ashersky]

I would say the US really needs to take at least a tie against Germany. Also, please do not beat Germany, I do not want Argentina to face them once again for the quarterfinals.

Yes on at least a tie.  No on not beating Germany (on purpose).

I'm hoping for a tie.  I want a tie.  Really just good with a tie.

[ashersky]

I'm sure there's an example where a team goes Win/Tie/Tie and still doesn't make it because of the tiebreaker, but again, it would be a case of rewarding the more offensive team, which is good for the game.

This would be USA in 2014 if Ghana wins by 2 and USA loses by 1.

Wait, no, I'm dumb.  That would be Win/Tie/Loss.

[yuma]

I dislike a competition where undefeated teams get eliminated.

Would you better like a competition when a team can advance without getting a win?

Cause to me that just sounds horrible.

And really, a tie is just a loss for both teams as the only teams that truly benefit from a tie are the other 2 teams as 1 point is lost from the possible points in the group (in a win/loss teams get 3-0 points respectively and in a tie/tie teams get 1-1).

[ipofanes]

I dislike a competition where undefeated teams get eliminated.

While it is possible, it isn't exactly likely, and given the low amount of ties in this World Cup, it's very unlikely that this will happen.

My brother told me it happened in a previous World Cup.  It shakes my faith in the design of the game and tournament in general, even if it isn't likely this time around

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Germany_1%E2%80%930_Austria

AKA "non-aggression pact of Gijon" in Germany or "Der Anschluss" in Algeria.

They changed the tournament mode so that all games of the last round are played concurrently. This does not help in this particular situation. Also, information on intermediate results from the other game tends to seep over the pitch, which led to a pretty unanimous 1 - 0 of Germany over Ghana in the last WC. Games like this needn't be fixed to let this happen.

[Davio]

Hurray, first in group! Whether we draw Brazil or not, our team has done what they needed to.

Not the most spectacular football, but tactically sound with deadly counter attacks.

[Teproc]

That's more like it, Brazil. Losing Neymar would be a scary thought though, he's really carrying the team.

Mexico played a great game against Croatia. The physical intensity was impressive, they're very solid and it won't be easy for the Dutch (although their game against Chile was also very convincing).

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sure looked like a bite

[mpsprs]

sure looked like a bite

I agree.  I'd like to see the angle from the front if they have it though.

[nkirbit]

Oh Suarez...

[theory]

In his defense Chiellini does sound like a pretty delicious pasta.

[Teproc]

Italy eliminated and Suarez hopefully suspended... is this a dream ?