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[Ozle]

If we didn't have the hardest group, I would think we had a chance... Saying that, if we can get out the group stages, then I believe we can get to quarter finals, before facing Spain, Netherlands or Brazil (and probably losing). 2nd round would be one of Columbia (apparently the seeded team in Group C), Greece, Cote d'Ivoire or Japan, all of whom seem beatable.

It is called Colombia, and they are probably harder than the Netherlands nowadays (though is hard to tell given that the last official match is almost a full year before the start of the WF). Japan I have no idea, but I have read they are pretty good.

By the way, I think the cup will go to Brazil, with Germany being a close second favorite. Argentina is way overrated (I still hope, though).

I cant see how you qualify colombia as harder than the netherlands, they came through qualifying without losing a game (and just 1 draw) and got to the final of the last tournament!

Japan will do nothing as always

Germans will be in the mix, i really want Klose to get 3 more goals....and i hate the germans
Argentina are always dangerous but not consistant, Messi will be dissapointing.


England need the crappy italy of 4 years ago to turn up, i reckon if that happens it could go to goal difference, but i cant really see where englands goals will come from, unless rooney actually plays well for once

[Ozle]

Well, England team has just been announced.

Not bad really, seems Hodgeson has picked on form rather than the same old players (who will have retired by next tournament)

Still not expecting us to get out of the group stages though.

If we didn't have the hardest group, I would think we had a chance... Saying that, if we can get out the group stages, then I believe we can get to quarter finals, before facing Spain, Netherlands or Brazil (and probably losing). 2nd round would be one of Columbia (apparently the seeded team in Group C), Greece, Cote d'Ivoire or Japan, all of whom seem beatable.

Well probably beat italy and uraguay and then lost to greece....

[soulnet]

I cant see how you qualify colombia as harder than the netherlands, they came through qualifying without losing a game (and just 1 draw) and got to the final of the last tournament!

Have you checked out Colombia's performance in the South American qualifiers? There are almost no weak teams in our qualifier, and Netherland's group was pretty weak. In any case, it remains to be see how Falcao's injury will affect Colombia. It could very well bring them down hard.

[Ozle]

I think while South Americas group is stronger than usual and the WC being in South America helps, I don't think Colombia being the third best team in the group with a ~60% win rate is amazing

Want some sort of side bet?

[soulnet]

Want some sort of side bet?

You mean a bet contingent on England and Colombia actually playing each other? That seems unlikely enough not to make the bet in advance. In any case, what would we bet on a forum? Upvotes?

[Ozle]

No, on whether Netherlands or Colombia get further.

England are going nowhere...

[Davio]

Netherlands are up against it, too many inexperienced players, too dependent on a few big names...

[yuma]

23 player US team revealed:

GOALKEEPERS (3): Brad Guzan (Aston Villa/England), Tim Howard (Everton/England), Nick Rimando (Real Salt Lake)

DEFENDERS (8): DaMarcus Beasley (Puebla/Mexico), Matt Besler (Sporting Kansas City), John Brooks (Hertha Berlin/Germany), Geoff Cameron (Stoke City/England), Timmy Chandler (Nürnberg/Germany), Omar Gonzalez (LA Galaxy), Fabian Johnson (Hoffenheim/Germany), DeAndre Yedlin (Seattle Sounders)

MIDFIELDERS (8): Kyle Beckerman (Real Salt Lake), Alejandro Bedoya (Nantes/France), Michael Bradley (Toronto FC), Brad Davis (Houston Dynamo), Mix Diskerud (Rosenborg/Norway), Julian Green (Bayern Munich/Germany), Jermaine Jones (Besiktas/Turkey), Graham Zusi (Sporting Kansas City)

FORWARDS (4): Jozy Altidore (Sunderland/England), Clint Dempsey (Seattle Sounders), Aron Johannsson (AZ Alkmaar/Netherlands), Chris Wondolowski (San Jose Earthquakes)


A lot of surprises here: Obviously no Donovan. Choosing Davis over him is the big one for me. As is keeping Green and Yedlin over Parkhurst/Evans. I am really hoping and except neither Yedlin or Green see the pitch at all.  But if that is the case why not keep Donovan and use him as a super sub?

If the US doesn't do well this decision does not bode well for Klinsmann. Some have speculated that Klinsmann is preparing more for 2018 than for trying to succeed now... which I think is a bit much, but he is opting for youth over experience.

[ashersky]

Also no McBride or Hejduk.  Crazy.

[Twistedarcher]

Sad to see Donovan missing. I get it, but it's still sad.

[Ozle]

So England looked solid against Peru..... They are not a quality side, but better than out usual poor warm up matches where we look poor and just scrape through

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[Ozle]

No one making a World Cup prediction game?
Disappointing....

[yuma]

Like some sort of bracket challenge?

Let's make one! http://y.ahoo.it/bz4XRDMA f.ds Bracket Challenge, password: theory

I chose yahoo because you can pick all of the games and the scores for them (only site that allows doing as such) compared to just picking who will win groups...

[Ozle]

Nice

Done!

Come on Honduras!!

[Ozle]

Don't think it asked me for a password...

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All right, so I made a bunch of random guesses that hopefully all turn out correct.  The only problem with this system is it doesn't let me pick the US all the way to the semi-finals like in my overly optimistic ESPN bracket.  (yeah, that's right.  We get out of the group AND beat Argentina)

[yuma]

Don't think it asked me for a password...

Great... now the riff raff will be able to get in

All right, so I made a bunch of random guesses that hopefully all turn out correct.  The only problem with this system is it doesn't let me pick the US all the way to the semi-finals like in my overly optimistic ESPN bracket.  (yeah, that's right.  We get out of the group AND beat Argentina)

Well if the US does advance out of the group you can throw caution to the wind and pick them there!

I like this system a bit more as in other systems even if you have say the US winning in the round of 16 you are only correct if you have them win on one side of the bracket. This one is a bit more forgiving

[Ozle]

Riff raff?
Im already in!

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[Ozle]

Also, this probably needs its own thread.

Most of the peeps here are US so will read the main thread title and *insert stereotypical view of yanks centralised thinking plus baseball world series joke here*

[Twistedarcher]

I'm really excited for this World Cup.

[Ozle]

Me too, mainly because there is so little hype about England this time.
And all the games are at reasonable times here, 5pm 7pm and 11pm
Am off to a brazillian bar tomorrow for the opening game

[shraeye]

no hype probably means they'll do well. 

[Ozle]

no hype probably means they'll do well.

Don't start hyping them!!!