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[Ichimaru Gin]

I'll be on a bit later today. I'm still alive, but have a lot on my plate right now.

Yeah. No pressure if you've got a lotta IRL stuff to take care of.

Your claim is worth like, a lot to town. If we win, I think you're MVP.

[Ichimaru Gin]

Oh. And before anyone accuses me of buddying. . .

Please, before Lekkit's claim, he was my pretty much top of my scum list.

And I've already gotten chided by Ash for not having enough respect for IRL reasons for lurking.

[liopoil]

Buddying didn't  occur to me until I read your second post. Great to see lekkit post, even though we never prodded him I think. Can we please still have a vote count and deadline and stuff?

[Teproc]

Vote Count 4.0

ichimaru Gin (1): Robz888

Not Voting (6): teproc, Lekkit, 2.71828, yuma, ichimaru gin, liopoil

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

Deadline: Sunday, January 26th at 8 pm

Lekkit has beed prodded

Nothing's changed I think.

[liopoil]

Oh wow, I totally missed that, thanks. I still thought we hadn't had a single vote count all of D4

[Ichimaru Gin]

Buddying didn't  occur to me until I read your second post. Great to see lekkit post, even though we never prodded him I think. Can we please still have a vote count and deadline and stuff?

Are you referring to my second post on this page, or my second post of that set of 3?

[liopoil]

the one where you said "before anyone accuses me of buddying..."

[2.71828.....]

the one where you said "before anyone accuses me of buddying..."

yeah.  Sounds like scum trying to get out in front of accusations.

Why do you think yuma is town again?

I will work on getting an organized answer to that sometime tonight.  I still need to cook/eat dinner first though, just checking in to see what happened after getting back home. 

Lekkit posted!  The thing I am most interested in is who he thinks scum is specifically between Ichi/Teproc and Robz/yuma or if either of those could be a pairing of scum.  I am kind of persuaded by Yuma's case for Ichi/Teproc not being scum together.  I also don't necessarily see both robz and yuma being partners.  (this is bad news for liopoil, who is kind of the odd man out here because then PoE says he is scum)

[Ichimaru Gin]

the one where you said "before anyone accuses me of buddying..."

yeah.  Sounds like scum trying to get out in front of accusations.

Why do you think yuma is town again?

I will work on getting an organized answer to that sometime tonight.  I still need to cook/eat dinner first though, just checking in to see what happened after getting back home. 

Lekkit posted!  The thing I am most interested in is who he thinks scum is specifically between Ichi/Teproc and Robz/yuma or if either of those could be a pairing of scum.  I am kind of persuaded by Yuma's case for Ichi/Teproc not being scum together.  I also don't necessarily see both robz and yuma being partners.  (this is bad news for liopoil, who is kind of the odd man out here because then PoE says he is scum)

Well considering that it was you who accused me of buddying before hand. Just wanted it understood that I was making that post in a professional, more meta-game sense.

[Robz888]

To reiterate: Ichi is definitely scum, and I am voting for him, and others should do so as well. He should be our lynch today.

[liopoil]

Robz, why all of a sudden prefer ichi over yuma?

[Robz888]

Because my yuma efforts failed to persuade anyone and at this point Ichi is actually markedly scummier. Everthing he says is scummy.

[2.71828.....]

yeah, sorry I didn't get down my thoughts on yuma last night.  I got distracted and it didn't happen.  I will definitely get comprehensive reads out on everyone before the lynch though because there is a decent chance (like 1/2 chance, unless scum really wants to help out and kill someone other than myself or Lekkit) that I am the NK tonight.

Right now I am thinking that Ichimaru is scum.  Like pretty confident.  Basically I would support the lynch except I will not support any lynch until Lekkit posts something of content.  We have until Sunday afternoon (basically) but I am totally happy with pushing a lynch through as soon as Lekkit posts.

I feel like the biggest decision that we have is between Robz or Yuma for scum.  Now, it might not be an "or" but rather an "and" but I do not think so.  Actually, I wouldn't mind lynching between those two today.  I feel like if that isn't our choice today, it will be what we have to choose from tomorrow.  We will basically not get any new information over the night, and I think that lynch will really help put the puzzle pieces of who is scum together.

But like I said, I really want two things to happen before the lynch:
1) Lekkit will post
2) I will give individual thoughts on each player

I can vouch for #2 happening by Saturday, and hopefully Lekkit will post by then as well.  I realize he has been having a hectic time IRL, but a fresh reread may be just the thing that pushes in the correct direction.

[Lekkit]

/out

I'm sorry but I have important IRL stuff to take care of. I'll tell you about it when it's sorted out.

[liopoil]

gah.

[liopoil]

gah.

this is a frustrated "gah!" but I get it and all lekkit.

Anyway, I hope we can get a replacement, but it is D4... modkill would be terrible, game over in fact.

lekkit, could you maybe just vote for someone? I mean, that's bad and all, but it's better than modkill

[mcmcsalot]

Hmm, this does provide a very difficult situation, I do not love the idea of subbing someone in at this stage of game.

[2.71828.....]

Can we just vote: Ichi

and then scum do the honorable thing and NK Lekkit?

[2.71828.....]

I mean, that seems like the most reasonable solution to me.  I know it kind of forces some things that might not have happened, but it does seem fair.

[2.71828.....]

I mean, that seems like the most reasonable solution to me.  I know it kind of forces some things that might not have happened, but it does seem fair.

I hate to be like "mafia must do this" but otherwise it is an auto-win, and I do not think mafia want that.  I think they would want to win because they outsmarted us

[Teproc]

I agree. I think scum would probably have killed you because Lekkit being absent makes things more difficult for town (and you're not an actual IC until Lekkit flips, although that hardly matters since everyone's agreed to believe Lekkit's claim).

Alternatively, mcmc you could maybe find someone in the speccy to replace ? That way they would be somewhat caught up at least.

I can vote Ichi now but I thought you wanted to get more reads in before 2.7, correct ?

[Teproc]

I mean I agree that it's not unreasonable to suggest that scum just NK Lekkit, but it's not ideal.

Actually it's probably making too many assumptions on the mafia's intentions.

[2.71828.....]

I can vote Ichi now but I thought you wanted to get more reads in before 2.7, correct ?

yeah, you are right. 

quickread on yuma really is that he has been super helpful, and in reading his posts I just don't find them scummy.   There has not been a single case brought against him using his own words against him.  (top of my head, correct me if I am wrong, but I think I am correct) I mean, this to me says that scum are attacking him because they know he can be dangerous to them.  At times like right now.

[2.71828.....]

Actually it's probably making too many assumptions on the mafia's intentions.

yeah, but the premise to this suggestion is that mafia want to win the game in the style and method that it is meant to be won.  They have a perfect game so far!  Why add an asterisk to that because a town member could not finish

[Teproc]

Well, if we still have a night it won't be a perfect game anyway because that means we lynched scum.