After doing a full reread of liopoil/Robz/yuma/Ichimaru, here's what I think.
Taking a look at the liopoil wagon on day 1. It was initially driven by Robz who noticed liopoil behaving in the same way that he did in Toy Story, where he was Robz's scummbuddy. yuma hops on the wagon third, saying we need a wagon, and Ichimaru peaks the wagon at L-2, pretty much sheeping Robz (notably using very similar turn of phrases)
Then Robz unvotes, saying both liopoil and mail-mi are both "too easy". I know for a fact that one of them at least is scum, so is it a bus that worked a little too well, or an attempt at a mislynch ?
If it's a bus, the third partner (yuma or Ichi) is also on wagon. In that case, yuma would be more likely since he's earlier on the wagon. Ichimaru is less likely because I assume one of the things a partner would have said to him night 0 is that bussing day 1 is generally a bad idea. Putting your partner at L-2 is pretty risky business, not something I see scum!Ichimaru doing.
If Robz is town, then the other three are scum, and both yuma and Ichimaru bussed liopoil. Again, I don't see the Ichimaru bus happening here.
Based on this, I don't think Ichimaru and liopoil can realistically be scum together, which means Robz and yuma are scum. liopoil has been more townie this game, so the scum team I see as the most likely coming out of this wagon is Robz/yuma/Ichimaru.
Once I got there, the game made a lot of sense to me, so I reread the rest of the thread with that scum team in mind.
Day 2, I think scum identified ash as an easy mislynch because of the faust flip. Right out of the gates, Robz and Ichimaru are all about ash's scumminess. Ichimaru doesn't actually vote for ash, but what he does is put 2.7 at L-1 without announcing L-1. In
that post post though, he is still saying that ash is scummy for his overconfidence on day 1.
In fact, Ichi's whole behavior regarding ash is scummy, and I'm surprised no one (myself included) has picked up on that. He starts by pointing out how scummy it is that ash was 100% sure about a confirmed townie's scumminess,
then says he doesn't want to vote for ash, and
finallycomes around to voting for ash, even threatening to hammer by the end.
Based on this, Ichimaru seems like the most likely partner for Robz/yuma.
Those two (Robz and yuma) have very little interaction, except for
this vote. After creating a wagon on me, yuma votes for Robz because he's unwilling to join it, ostensibly because Robz is tunneling on ash. This is a pretty safe vote (Robz only has one vote on him before this), and yuma switches to Lekkit pretty quickly. It can in fact be read as yuma trying to get Robz to join the wagon on me because, for whatever reason, yuma would rather lynch me than ash ? In any case, I found that vote pretty weird at the time (seemed more like a mail-mi vote than a yuma vote), and this seems like a reasonable explanation of it to me.
At this point, I would lynch Robz/yuma today, then lynch the other one tomorrow, and then let the poor soul left alive (might be me, actually, since 2.7 and Lekkit are the obvious NKs) to decide between liopoil and Ichimaru.
I'm not going to vote before we get all the claiming done, but I actually feel good about this game now, it finallymakes sense to me.
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