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Re: Mafia XXXVI: Dynasty Warriors Mafia 2 The Battle of Red Cliffs
« Reply #1675 on: January 08, 2014, 06:08:52 pm »

Oh and voltaire, you didn't answer what the reason for the mail-mi vote is.

I want other people to react first. I'm gonna abuse the hell out of this semi-IC status.  :)
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Re: Mafia XXXVI: Dynasty Warriors Mafia 2 The Battle of Red Cliffs
« Reply #1676 on: January 08, 2014, 06:09:26 pm »

I am beginning to get some strong reads.  :D
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Re: Mafia XXXVI: Dynasty Warriors Mafia 2 The Battle of Red Cliffs
« Reply #1677 on: January 08, 2014, 06:10:26 pm »

Have you figured out I'm obvtown yet ?

Good. I'm currently rereading, and wondering why we all forgot mail-mi existed during day 2. liopoil is looking townier to me in his search for a wagon day 2 (as in, it's a very explicit and open search for a wagon, as opposed to a mail-mi style sheepfest), so Robz being scum through PoE makes sense as well.
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Re: Mafia XXXVI: Dynasty Warriors Mafia 2 The Battle of Red Cliffs
« Reply #1678 on: January 08, 2014, 06:10:38 pm »

So scum to town of my lynchpool:

Robz
mail-mi
yuma: null
Ichimaru Gin
Teproc: He must have been bussed twice if scum and robz town. That's huge.

I request that everyone who is not myself/Lekkit/e post a reads list in this style.
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Re: Mafia XXXVI: Dynasty Warriors Mafia 2 The Battle of Red Cliffs
« Reply #1679 on: January 08, 2014, 06:10:55 pm »

Vote: Robz I think. If he isn't scum then the ash wagon was pure town, which seems less likely. Also, robz always correctly identifies town!ash (slight exaggeration). But the main reason is the stuff from prior days which hasn't gone away. And gut/POE

It's a large exaggeration. I only ever correctly identify ash because I assume he's town and he's usually town. I think in practice I'm no better and calling him than I am at anyone else, and probably worse.
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Re: Mafia XXXVI: Dynasty Warriors Mafia 2 The Battle of Red Cliffs
« Reply #1680 on: January 08, 2014, 06:12:35 pm »

Have you figured out I'm obvtown yet ?

I have not, what is the argument for this?
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Re: Mafia XXXVI: Dynasty Warriors Mafia 2 The Battle of Red Cliffs
« Reply #1681 on: January 08, 2014, 06:14:57 pm »

Voltaire : I haven't reread as thoroughly as I would like to eventually, but so far :

mail-mi : Scumming it up GoT style
Robz : Slight scum for PoE reasons
yuma: Null
Ichimaru : Townish for the way he responded to me day 2
liopoil : Townish for scumhunting attitude day 2

@Robz : Just joking, I saw liopoil and Voltaire saying that I was unlikely to be scum because of the way the wagons broke down so I figured I'd comment on it.
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Re: Mafia XXXVI: Dynasty Warriors Mafia 2 The Battle of Red Cliffs
« Reply #1682 on: January 08, 2014, 06:16:28 pm »

@Robz : Just joking, I saw liopoil and Voltaire saying that I was unlikely to be scum because of the way the wagons broke down so I figured I'd comment on it.

Yep, I'm asking them to clarify.
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Re: Mafia XXXVI: Dynasty Warriors Mafia 2 The Battle of Red Cliffs
« Reply #1683 on: January 08, 2014, 06:17:26 pm »

@Robz : Just joking, I saw liopoil and Voltaire saying that I was unlikely to be scum because of the way the wagons broke down so I figured I'd comment on it.

Yep, I'm asking them to clarify.

Excuse me? I do not currently have a clear opinion on Teproc.
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Re: Mafia XXXVI: Dynasty Warriors Mafia 2 The Battle of Red Cliffs
« Reply #1684 on: January 08, 2014, 08:17:18 pm »

So scum to town of my lynchpool:

Robz
mail-mi
yuma: null
Ichimaru Gin
Teproc: He must have been bussed twice if scum and robz town. That's huge.

I request that everyone who is not myself/Lekkit/e post a reads list in this style.

Ok.

Teproc
mail-mi: It seems like he's almost dropped off the map post-wise. I think there's a good chance he's scum.
Robz: Don't really understand the case on him
Liopoil: null
Yuma: null

Just a head's up. My grandparents are coming over tonight--but I should be able to check in again before I go to bed.

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Re: Mafia XXXVI: Dynasty Warriors Mafia 2 The Battle of Red Cliffs
« Reply #1685 on: January 08, 2014, 08:22:25 pm »

@Robz : Just joking, I saw liopoil and Voltaire saying that I was unlikely to be scum because of the way the wagons broke down so I figured I'd comment on it.

Yep, I'm asking them to clarify.
Look at the final vote count of yesterday. Assuming we believe lekkit, all of the ash wagon is conf!town except us two. Everyone else except Teproc is voting for Teproc. That means, from my perspective at least, that at least one of his buddies was bussing him yesterday if he is scum, two buddies if you are town as well.
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Re: Mafia XXXVI: Dynasty Warriors Mafia 2 The Battle of Red Cliffs
« Reply #1686 on: January 08, 2014, 08:25:51 pm »

So scum to town of my lynchpool:

Robz
mail-mi
yuma: null
Ichimaru Gin
Teproc: He must have been bussed twice if scum and robz town. That's huge.

I request that everyone who is not myself/Lekkit/e post a reads list in this style.

Ok.

Teproc
mail-mi: It seems like he's almost dropped off the map post-wise. I think there's a good chance he's scum.
Robz: Don't really understand the case on him
Liopoil: null
Yuma: null

Just a head's up. My grandparents are coming over tonight--but I should be able to check in again before I go to bed.

Come on, those don't count as reads. That's three null, one scum read because he's not posting and one you're not even commenting on.
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« Reply #1687 on: January 08, 2014, 08:39:14 pm »

So scum to town of my lynchpool:

Robz
mail-mi
yuma: null
Ichimaru Gin
Teproc: He must have been bussed twice if scum and robz town. That's huge.

I request that everyone who is not myself/Lekkit/e post a reads list in this style.

Ok.

Teproc
mail-mi: It seems like he's almost dropped off the map post-wise. I think there's a good chance he's scum.
Robz: Don't really understand the case on him
Liopoil: null
Yuma: null

Just a head's up. My grandparents are coming over tonight--but I should be able to check in again before I go to bed.

Come on, those don't count as reads. That's three null, one scum read because he's not posting and one you're not even commenting on.

2 null. I do not fully understand the case on Robz, but placed him where I believe him to be on my reads list.
I find yuma more towny than liopoil, mail-mi I explained.

I still find you the scummiest for reasons I have stated before. The near complete lack of suspicion, hedging, etc. Lekkit was one of my other top scumreads, but now he's basically an IC. I don't feel that strongly about most of the people left in the lynch pool at this point. Liopoil got some early suspicion if I remember, but not really any since then. Mail-mi, same thing, and now that he's posting so little, I have even less of a read on him. Robz has been very helpful with the flavor, but I agree with you that it makes me a little concerned that he is basically the only player that knows much about it.

Voltaire mentioned how massive this thread has gotten, so it takes a fair bit of work to go through and reread. I'll probably do one tomorrow at some point though. As I'm pretty shot from work right now.

Someone (voltaire?), mentioned something about doing some analysis on possible scumteams. I think this could be very helpful considering how small the lynch pool is now.

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Re: Mafia XXXVI: Dynasty Warriors Mafia 2 The Battle of Red Cliffs
« Reply #1688 on: January 08, 2014, 08:41:51 pm »

For some reason I didn't get these were in order of scumminess. That makes more sense.

I don't think "near complete lack of suspicion" really counts anymore though, I was the main alternative to the ash lynch on day 2. If you want to see lack of suspicion, look at yuma, I don't think he's gotten a vote all game (not that I think it's actually scummy to go unsuspected).
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Re: Mafia XXXVI: Dynasty Warriors Mafia 2 The Battle of Red Cliffs
« Reply #1689 on: January 08, 2014, 08:52:14 pm »

I find yuma more towny than liopoil
that's not null
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Re: Mafia XXXVI: Dynasty Warriors Mafia 2 The Battle of Red Cliffs
« Reply #1690 on: January 08, 2014, 08:53:24 pm »

I find yuma more towny than liopoil
that's not null

Degrees of nullness. The slight difference is just reflected in the order.

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Re: Mafia XXXVI: Dynasty Warriors Mafia 2 The Battle of Red Cliffs
« Reply #1691 on: January 08, 2014, 08:58:13 pm »

I only ever correctly identify ash because I assume he's town and he's usually town. I think in practice I'm no better and calling him than I am at anyone else, and probably worse.
Well, when I read this I had a 'that's ridiculous!' moment and went to go pull quotes from a zillion different games, but only found a couple. So, never mind then.
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Re: Mafia XXXVI: Dynasty Warriors Mafia 2 The Battle of Red Cliffs
« Reply #1692 on: January 08, 2014, 08:59:28 pm »

For some reason I didn't get these were in order of scumminess. That makes more sense.

I don't think "near complete lack of suspicion" really counts anymore though, I was the main alternative to the ash lynch on day 2. If you want to see lack of suspicion, look at yuma, I don't think he's gotten a vote all game (not that I think it's actually scummy to go unsuspected).

Ok.
No, you're right, Yuma has received very little suspicion. And doing a search, the only vote he received was a RVS vote from Ashersky. It's only one of the reasons why I find you scummy though.
Still, Yuma is worth investigating more. I don't know if people not being suspicious of you is seen as scummy--you at least don't seem to think so.

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Re: Mafia XXXVI: Dynasty Warriors Mafia 2 The Battle of Red Cliffs
« Reply #1693 on: January 08, 2014, 09:07:56 pm »

I have this just gut suspicion of yuma, but it's not really based off anything tangible. the thing is, there hardly ever is much tangible to suspect him on. And in toy story, I thought that there was, and I invested a lot into him being scum, and was so so so wrong. I'm wary here, but I don't think I'm going to be voting him today. I doubt anyone is going to find a reason to be anything but null on him. that itself may be a sign he's scum, but we just can't lynch people based off that.
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Re: Mafia XXXVI: Dynasty Warriors Mafia 2 The Battle of Red Cliffs
« Reply #1694 on: January 08, 2014, 10:32:06 pm »

okay reads:

teproc
ichi
robz
yuma
liopoil.

Am I still voting teproc? I should be. vote: teproc3

oh and sorry, i haen't been paying as much attention to this game as I should, a lot of stuff has been happening lately.
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Re: Mafia XXXVI: Dynasty Warriors Mafia 2 The Battle of Red Cliffs
« Reply #1695 on: January 09, 2014, 10:25:57 am »

We are back!

Reads atm

lekkit, voltaire, 2.7 all pretty townie

teproc I still think could be scummy, but I want to look more at what liopoil and voltaire have been talking about today.

liopoil i lean a little toward the scummy side

my gut probably says that robz is town (this kinda feels like the robz from Wibbly Wobbly to me), but really that doesn't mean much of anything

mail-mi I could certainly see as scum, he is probably my biggest priority to look at today more in depth

ichimaru... i guess I would put in the middle. I have seen some scummy stuff from him (and voted for it yesterday), but a few people have basically said "that is typical newbie stuff" and written it off... so maybe they are right or are partners trying to protect newbiescum? Worth looking at again, but maybe not my priority for today.

I still need to catch up and look at day2 again as I haven't had a chance to do that yet. I am feeling better, but baby is still sick.
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Re: Mafia XXXVI: Dynasty Warriors Mafia 2 The Battle of Red Cliffs
« Reply #1696 on: January 09, 2014, 05:30:18 pm »

okay reads:

teproc
ichi
robz
yuma
liopoil.

Am I still voting teproc? I should be. vote: teproc3

oh and sorry, i haen't been paying as much attention to this game as I should, a lot of stuff has been happening lately.

Please elaborate and give reasons for the rankings, mail-mi.

Only Robz hasn't done one of these so far.
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Re: Mafia XXXVI: Dynasty Warriors Mafia 2 The Battle of Red Cliffs
« Reply #1697 on: January 09, 2014, 05:35:19 pm »

Extremely busy today, sorry. Um, I haven't done of those? I don't know. I guess mail-mi is the scummiest, but there really isn't anyone in this pool that makes me say "definitely town, do not lynch." I most resistant to lynching Ichimaru, I suppose. Sort of just gut feeling that he is a newbie townie.
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Re: Mafia XXXVI: Dynasty Warriors Mafia 2 The Battle of Red Cliffs Day 3
« Reply #1698 on: January 09, 2014, 05:49:35 pm »

Vote Count 3.2

teproc (1): mail-mi
mail-mi (1): voltaire
Robz888 (1) Liopoil


Not Voting (6): teproc, Robz, Lekkit, 2.71828, Ichimaru Gin, yuma

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline: Thursday, January 15th at 8 pm
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Re: Mafia XXXVI: Dynasty Warriors Mafia 2 The Battle of Red Cliffs
« Reply #1699 on: January 09, 2014, 05:52:50 pm »

Extremely busy today, sorry. Um, I haven't done of those? I don't know. I guess mail-mi is the scummiest, but there really isn't anyone in this pool that makes me say "definitely town, do not lynch." I most resistant to lynching Ichimaru, I suppose. Sort of just gut feeling that he is a newbie townie.

What do you think about lio? Do you think no scum were involved in ash's lynch?
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