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[Teproc]

That's what I was thinking about as well, but I guess we can just come back to that if Robz or yuma flips scum at some point.

[Robz888]

Oh, but, so, scum probably just have to have fake claims, or else what would they do in this position? They would have to probably just pick obscure Wu and Shu generals that were unlikely to get assigned to real townies, and if that's the case we can catch them on mass flavor claim, they are just the most obscure ones.*

*Well, not exactly, because I'd be the judge of obscurity, and I'm not an IC to the rest of you.

I mean, on the off chance this is the case, we should just straight-up flavor claim, as I advocated on Day 1. Like I said then, I doubt it will help, but I can't imagine a scenario where it hurts.

[Teproc]

I'm fine with this but I guess I'll wait to see what the psuedo-ICs have to say about it. It seems pretty clear that flavour is not indicative of PRness, so it's fine.

The only downside is the whole "announce who I'm targeting through my flavor name" thing, but is there any PR left that it would be relevant for ? Jailkeeper maybe ?

[Voltaire]

Peak of the D1 lio wagon, fyi:

Vote Count 1.9

很有意思

2.7... (2): Teproc, yuma
faust (1): ashersky
mail-mi (1): Voltaire
Voltaire (2): mail-mi, Lekkit
liopoil (5): Robz888, Eevee，chairs, faust, Ichimaru Gin {L-2}

Not Voting (2):liopoil, 2.7....

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Day 1 ends on December, 19 at 2:00 p.m. Forum time.

[liopoil]

I mean, on the off chance this is the case, we should just straight-up flavor claim, as I advocated on Day 1. Like I said then, I doubt it will help, but I can't imagine a scenario where it hurts.

I thought they likely indirectly indicated role?

[liopoil]

does lekkit's role indicate hider?

[Teproc]

Robz said that, so far, they haven't been indicative (chairs was the example I think).

Now trusting Robz might be dangerous, but it was pretty much the conclusion we came to at the end of the day 1 conversation anyway, right ? I also don't think Robz would outright lie about the flavor, seems a little dangerous if someone decides to suddenly do a bit of research.

[2.71828.....]

I do not think that flavor has direct correlation to role.  I think it has a direct correlation to alignment.  Claiming army is also useless.  Flip a coin, oh I am Wu (or Shu).  If we are serious about claiming flavor we should actually claim flavor.

[Robz888]

I mean, on the off chance this is the case, we should just straight-up flavor claim, as I advocated on Day 1. Like I said then, I doubt it will help, but I can't imagine a scenario where it hurts.

I thought they likely indirectly indicated role?

I think at this point it's not possible to tell whether they very very very inidrectly indicate role, or not at all.

[Robz888]

does lekkit's role indicate hider?

I don't know, he hasn't said his flavor name.

[2.71828.....]

I'm Xiaqiao. Town Hider. I've hid behind 2.7 and Voltaire. In that order. They are both town.

[Voltaire]

vote: mail-mi

It's worth noting that lio and Teproc have had big wagons run up on them. Of our 6 lynch candidates, that's 2. Makes it decent odds that we ran up a wagon on scum at one point. Still want feedback on what everyone things about Teproc having been the alternative to ash and what that says about his alignment.

[liopoil]

vote: mail-mi

It's worth noting that lio and Teproc have had big wagons run up on them. Of our 6 lynch candidates, that's 2. Makes it decent odds that we ran up a wagon on scum at one point. Still want feedback on what everyone things about Teproc having been the alternative to ash and what that says about his alignment.

is there a connection between the vote on mail-mi and the text? what's the reason for the vote?

I don't think Teproc being the alternative to ash speaks to his alignment. When things like that do speak to someone's alignment, it's usually because their scumbuddies pushed the other wagon through. In this case, I know I heavily supported the ash wagon, and so did voltaire, who is probably town too. So I don't think it means much.

[Voltaire]

vote: mail-mi

It's worth noting that lio and Teproc have had big wagons run up on them. Of our 6 lynch candidates, that's 2. Makes it decent odds that we ran up a wagon on scum at one point. Still want feedback on what everyone things about Teproc having been the alternative to ash and what that says about his alignment.

is there a connection between the vote on mail-mi and the text? what's the reason for the vote?

I don't think Teproc being the alternative to ash speaks to his alignment. When things like that do speak to someone's alignment, it's usually because their scumbuddies pushed the other wagon through. In this case, I know I heavily supported the ash wagon, and so did voltaire, who is probably town too. So I don't think it means much.

No, they're not related. As far as the ash wagon goes, of course it had town on it! There are only three scum in this game. So what do you think about it? Can we learn anything about Teproc's alignment?

Basically, I am noticing lio buddying me. That is not necessarily a scum tell. But I want to get this lynch right because it put us back in the game and scum has got to be just gut-punched by this turn of events.

Day 2 Final Vote Count
ashersky (6): Robz, Voltaire, Lekkit, Liopoil, 2.71828, ashersky
Teproc (4): Ichimaru Gin, chairs, mail-mi, yuma

Not Voting (1): teproc

[Voltaire]

Robz has been doing this to me, too. Red flags have been going off ever since

2) protects teproc, who I believe is town

Trust me, I've noticed Robz being reasonable and helpful. I'm wondering now. But I want your flip first.

I can say the same about you, though.

[liopoil]

As far as the ash wagon goes, of course it had town on it! There are only three scum in this game. So what do you think about it? Can we learn anything about Teproc's alignment?

Basically, I am noticing lio buddying me. That is not necessarily a scum tell. But I want to get this lynch right because it put us back in the game and scum has got to be just gut-punched by this turn of events.

Day 2 Final Vote Count
ashersky (6): Robz, Voltaire, Lekkit, Liopoil, 2.71828, ashersky
Teproc (4): Ichimaru Gin, chairs, mail-mi, yuma

Not Voting (1): teproc

buddying? what, you mean the thing about POE?

Well, looking at the ash wagon there... I'm town, ash is town, Voltaire, e, and lekkit are probably all town, so really, are you saying that Teproc is scummy for being the other wagon than the one which scum!robz pushed? let's just lynch robz then!

So no, I still don't think it speaks to his alignment, because the only way that it might implicate him is if scum!robz pushed the ash wagon to save Teproc. And really, robz was on the ash wagon before the Teproc wagon, right?

[Voltaire]

So no, I still don't think it speaks to his alignment, because the only way that it might implicate him is if scum!robz pushed the ash wagon to save Teproc. And really, robz was on the ash wagon before the Teproc wagon, right?

Yup.

So doesn't that mean Teproc is probably town from your point of view? Because scum didn't need to drive another wagon, they could let those two sit and whichever it was was fine with them. And those two wagons did percolate for an awfully long time.

[Voltaire]

buddying? what, you mean the thing about POE?

You've defended me all game. If you're scum, it was for town cred. If you're town, it's because you have a good read.

Really I'm just darn excited by how well we seem to be doing now.

[Voltaire]

Day 1 Final Vote Count
2.7... (1): Robz
Eevee (3):  2.7..., faust, Teproc
liopoil (1): chairs
faust (7): ashersky, Lekkit, liopoil, Ichimaru Gin, yuma, Eevee, mail-mi
mail-mi (1): Voltaire

Also lio, if you're town, this means that mail-mi is the only possible scum who could have received a vote in the final tally. What do you think about that?

[Robz888]

I'm Xiaqiao. Town Hider. I've hid behind 2.7 and Voltaire. In that order. They are both town.

My mistake. Xiao Qiao is the wife of Zhou Yu, who is Commander-in-Chief of the Wu forces. Her twin sister is Da Qiao. They are known througout the land for their beauty.

Xiao Qiao knew Cao Cao, evil ruler of Wei, when they were both children. Legend states that he was still in love with her, and wished to take her and her sister back to his city after the battle, and put lock them inside a tower.

In the novel, Zhuge Liang, the Shu strategist, tricked Zhou Yu into supporting the war against Cao Cao by telling him that Cao Cao desired his wife, Xiao Qiao. From that moment on, Zhou Yu sweared that either he would die, or Cao Cao would die.

I'm not sure I see Hider in there anyway, but Xiao Qiao is more a Hider than a Role Cop or something, I guess.

[Robz888]

Robz has been doing this to me, too. Red flags have been going off ever since

2) protects teproc, who I believe is town

Trust me, I've noticed Robz being reasonable and helpful. I'm wondering now. But I want your flip first.

I can say the same about you, though.

What have I been doing to you?

[Voltaire]

What have I been doing to you?

Buddying while setting yourself up to have a scum read on me if I ever have a scum read on you.

[liopoil]

Oh, well yeah, I had a town read on you. Should I pretend to have an incorrect scumread next time?

So no, I still don't think it speaks to his alignment, because the only way that it might implicate him is if scum!robz pushed the ash wagon to save Teproc. And really, robz was on the ash wagon before the Teproc wagon, right?

Yup.

So doesn't that mean Teproc is probably town from your point of view? Because scum didn't need to drive another wagon, they could let those two sit and whichever it was was fine with them. And those two wagons did percolate for an awfully long time.

Oh I didn't think about that at all. wow. yeah, if teproc is scum, that means that at least one of his buddies voted for him yesterday.  Which is pretty plausible I guess, but if it's just one buddy then robz must be scum. Otherwise he has two buddies voting for him. So nevermind, that is pretty big. Town points for Teproc for sure [/buddy]

Day 1 Final Vote Count
2.7... (1): Robz
Eevee (3):  2.7..., faust, Teproc
liopoil (1): chairs
faust (7): ashersky, Lekkit, liopoil, Ichimaru Gin, yuma, Eevee, mail-mi
mail-mi (1): Voltaire

Also lio, if you're town, this means that mail-mi is the only possible scum who could have received a vote in the final tally. What do you think about that?

It makes me think that we were really bad at this game D1. I think it's possible that we could have only voted for town. Plus, there's a very fair chance that mail-mi is scum.

Vote: Robz I think. If he isn't scum then the ash wagon was pure town, which seems less likely. Also, robz always correctly identifies town!ash (slight exaggeration). But the main reason is the stuff from prior days which hasn't gone away. And gut/POE

So scum to town of my lynchpool:

Robz
mail-mi
yuma: null
Ichimaru Gin
Teproc: He must have been bussed twice if scum and robz town. That's huge.

[liopoil]

Oh and voltaire, you didn't answer what the reason for the mail-mi vote is.

[Robz888]

What have I been doing to you?

Buddying while setting yourself up to have a scum read on me if I ever have a scum read on you.

I think that's what you've done to me. I didn't "set myself up" to do anything.