This is really messy, so sorry for that, but i need to get to baby and will try to consolidate later into a more concise post... so feel free to read but look forward to a better written post down the road.Vote count yuma.?
2.7... (2): mail-mi, chairs
ashersky (2): Robz, Voltaire
chairs (1): 2.7...
Ichimaru Gin (2): Lekkit, Teproc
voltaire (1): ashersky
liopoil (1): yuma
Not Voting (2): liopoil, Ichimaru Gin
Ok... in the light of trying to get back on track here I think a case needs to be represented for everyone that has been voted for (i.e. someone on a wagon explain the case and why you think that points to so and so being scum)
I'll start:
So I think the whole of yesterday was completely and totally distracted by faust, unfortunately... While I do think there is something to glean from looking at the interactions there it is difficult to get stuff out of it... because it was such a bizarre situation of faust hijacking the game (this is the correct usage of the word "hijacking the game" eh 2.7?) and I think most players would react to faust the same way as scum or town... there may be exceptions to this and should be explored, but for now I am thinking lets go back and restart...
This is the vote count before faust claims vengeful:
2.7... (3): Teproc, yuma, liopoil
mail-mi (2): Voltaire, faust
Eevee (1): Robz888
liopoil (4): Eevee, chairs, Ichimaru Gin, mail-mi
chairs (1): 2.7....
faust (2): ashersky, Lekkit
from here things just to move completely toward faust and really the conversation is almost completely on him from then on out right or wrong... Now this isn't enough to just auto-lynch liopoil and isn't what I am suggesting (nor should we ignore everything that happens after this point). No. But I do think we should use this as a starting off point because yesterday was just so weird...
so the main initial votes on liopoil were for lurking... a good reason to vote day1 I think. He responded and then after the faust claim he only received two votes... compare this to 2.7 and eevee who both received a lot more attention after the faust claim I think... well let me back that up cause I am not sure if that is right as this is just off memory:
So we have the faust claim: from there here are the votes:
2.7 votes faust
liopoil votes faust
yuma votes eeveeichimaru votes faust
mail-mi votes liopoilrobz votes 2.7
mail-mi votes 2.7
faust votes 2.7yuma votes faust
2.7 votes eeveefaust votes ash
faust votes 2.7robz votes faust
2.7 votes eevee
votlaire votes eeveefaust votes faust (LAME!)
faust votes eeveeteproc votes eevee
Robz votes 2.7voltaire votes mail-mi
teproc votes mail-mi
voltaire votes eeveeeevee votes faust
teproc votes eevee
mail-mi votes eevee[/b
mail-mi votes faust (hammer)
So yeah... liopoil received very few votes after faust's claim compared to the other lynch options of 2.7 and eevee specifically... Why is this significant? Well because I think at this juncture it is odd that liopoil wasn't brought up again as a wagon? Why? Well I think one possibility is that if he is scum, scum partners didn't want to make him be the alternative to faust (who did look like he was being lynched, but wasn't ever a for sure thing) and instead offered up eevee and 2.7.
Here are some points that I brought up in regard to liopoil responding aggressively to suspicion as town and keeps his cool as scum (and I think he kept his cool here). I stand by it although liopoil has brought up the point that he only responds aggressively when the points are stupid... which I don't know... anytime I am town I think all points brought up against me are stupid, because they are...
I don't really have a lot to add from liopoil day2. His argument with ash was what it was... he did push the 2.7 thing in regard to eevee being killed. I am almost always a little skeptical of those sort of arguments and tend to think they come from scum, but that isn't a big deal... other than that he is now VLA (as I previously didn't see, but will now acknowledge) and hasn't added much.
This is really messy, so sorry for that, but i need to get to baby and will try to consolidate later into a more concise post...