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Author Topic: Mafia XXXVI: Dynasty Warriors Mafia 2 The Battle of Red Cliffs(Town wins!)  (Read 202213 times)

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Re: Mafia XXXVI: Dynasty Warriors Mafia 2 The Battle of Red Cliffs
« Reply #1025 on: December 19, 2013, 11:32:42 am »

I'm not even going to entertain a debate over whether what faust did was good or not. It wasn't. But I guess the only question is whether this is something scum did, or town did.

Voltaire, as faust's advocate, maybe you can explain to me why this is more likely something town did?
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Re: Mafia XXXVI: Dynasty Warriors Mafia 2 The Battle of Red Cliffs
« Reply #1026 on: December 19, 2013, 11:32:59 am »

The thing that's troubling to me is that faust wasn't even particularly close to being lynched when he claimed. Would he fakeclaim as scum with only moderate pressure ? I mean, it seems like a huge risk to take as scum with, what, 2 votes on him at the time ?

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« Reply #1027 on: December 19, 2013, 11:36:01 am »

I'm not even going to entertain a debate over whether what faust did was good or not. It wasn't. But I guess the only question is whether this is something scum did, or town did.

Voltaire, as faust's advocate, maybe you can explain to me why this is more likely something town did?

Look, I don't think I really debate your first point. I would say my narrative is:

faust sees an unfocused day, and as a player who has been lynched twice while asleep (with no chance to claim), doesn't want that to happen to a town PR this game. So he focuses the day with a fake claim designed to trap his strongest scum read. After a significant amount of reaction, he states what he did.

I should point out that "I was asleep" is pretty damn likely regardless of his alignment.

And I don't see anything strange about "claim, drop the mic and leave, see what happens" as an approach for town.
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Re: Mafia XXXVI: Dynasty Warriors Mafia 2 The Battle of Red Cliffs
« Reply #1028 on: December 19, 2013, 11:36:15 am »

The thing that's troubling to me is that faust wasn't even particularly close to being lynched when he claimed. Would he fakeclaim as scum with only moderate pressure ? I mean, it seems like a huge risk to take as scum with, what, 2 votes on him at the time ?

Yup, two votes.
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Re: Mafia XXXVI: Dynasty Warriors Mafia 2 The Battle of Red Cliffs
« Reply #1029 on: December 19, 2013, 11:38:22 am »

I mean, Eevee's reactions to everything going on here will be really useful in future days.


wait.....


I am still on vote: eevee, right?

Since absolutely no-one is biting on mail-mi, vote: Eevee.
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Re: Mafia XXXVI: Dynasty Warriors Mafia 2 The Battle of Red Cliffs
« Reply #1030 on: December 19, 2013, 11:40:00 am »

I could go mail-mi or Eevee as a last-minute lynch, but I'm still undecided on faust. I'm leaning towards awful town play right now but I don't know.
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« Reply #1031 on: December 19, 2013, 11:40:14 am »

because I'll surely be on before the deadline

Nothing wrong with an Eevee wagon, fyi.
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« Reply #1032 on: December 19, 2013, 11:40:37 am »

Okay, so the wiki being offline really sucks and honesty I'd prefer if someone just posted all the info. The current situation just feels very unfair to scum.

However, while faust's inactivity could be real life-infused, it clearly is scummy here. I approve of the lynch, all the while knowing my jumping on the wagon will look suspicious to some.

Holding off voting until faust gets a chance to react, because I'll surely be on before the deadline, so why not.

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hedge much?

also you will surely be on before the deadline, so you will definitely have time to defend yourself if we approach L on you
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Re: Mafia XXXVI: Dynasty Warriors Mafia 2 The Battle of Red Cliffs
« Reply #1033 on: December 19, 2013, 11:40:50 am »

If not faust, I want to lynch 2.7 for this scummy faust stance.
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Re: Mafia XXXVI: Dynasty Warriors Mafia 2 The Battle of Red Cliffs
« Reply #1034 on: December 19, 2013, 11:41:26 am »

Ok. Quick question on forum time. So the deadline is 2:20 p.m. Forum time. how does that translate into Pacific. Is it +3 hours relative to my time zone?

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« Reply #1035 on: December 19, 2013, 11:42:30 am »

If not faust, I want to lynch 2.7 for this scummy faust stance.

I could do that too, but I'd only do it as a "if nothing better". I'm just worried because of things like his "let's lynch chairs anyway!" stance. But everything else he's done has been scummy. Yeah, it'd be ok.
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« Reply #1036 on: December 19, 2013, 11:42:47 am »

Ok. Quick question on forum time. So the deadline is 2:20 p.m. Forum time. how does that translate into Pacific. Is it +3 hours relative to my time zone?

Yes. Forum time is Eastern Time.
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Re: Mafia XXXVI: Dynasty Warriors Mafia 2 The Battle of Red Cliffs
« Reply #1037 on: December 19, 2013, 11:43:39 am »

Deadline is in about 2 and a half hours.
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Re: Mafia XXXVI: Dynasty Warriors Mafia 2 The Battle of Red Cliffs
« Reply #1038 on: December 19, 2013, 11:44:35 am »

Robz, which part of my Faust stance post claim did you find most scummy?
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Re: Mafia XXXVI: Dynasty Warriors Mafia 2 The Battle of Red Cliffs
« Reply #1039 on: December 19, 2013, 11:48:54 am »

Thanks Voltaire. Wanted to make sure I had my facts straight on that.

I could lynch 2.7, or Eevee, but at the same time, it seems kind of strange to let Faust off after everything.
I mean, even if he is town (which I very much doubt), I got that part of his plan was to get himself lynched because he didn't want a PR to get hit? Which is part of the reason why people were voting for him in the first place because of the whole "least bad lynch" stance he was taking. I could definitely get behind 2.7 more than Eevee though. Interesting that he had the chance to Hammer Faust, thereby saving himself for today--and he passed it up.

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Re: Mafia XXXVI: Dynasty Warriors Mafia 2 The Battle of Red Cliffs
« Reply #1040 on: December 19, 2013, 11:51:19 am »

e trying to start an Eevee wagon when it looked like faust was an easy lynch is making me doubt he's scum.
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Re: Mafia XXXVI: Dynasty Warriors Mafia 2 The Battle of Red Cliffs
« Reply #1041 on: December 19, 2013, 11:52:42 am »

Post count: (no pregame)
138 Voltaire
137 e
104 ashersky
92 Robz
89 Teproc
75 faust
68 yuma
55 liopoil
42 mail-mi
32 Ichimaru Gin
30 Eevee
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Re: Mafia XXXVI: Dynasty Warriors Mafia 2 The Battle of Red Cliffs
« Reply #1042 on: December 19, 2013, 11:53:11 am »

Well, Ichimaru is right actually. This jumping around, last-minute-random-voting is exactly what I didn't want. Grr, I am a little mad that I remembered the deadline wrong. At this point, the only reasonable thing to do is probably vote: faust
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« Reply #1043 on: December 19, 2013, 11:54:07 am »

Well, Ichimaru is right actually. This jumping around, last-minute-random-voting is exactly what I didn't want. Grr, I am a little mad that I remembered the deadline wrong. At this point, the only reasonable thing to do is probably vote: faust

STOPPIT.l NOOOOOOO

EEVEE WILL BE HERE BEFORE DEADLINE
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« Reply #1044 on: December 19, 2013, 11:54:35 am »

Vote count please?
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Re: Mafia XXXVI: Dynasty Warriors Mafia 2 The Battle of Red Cliffs
« Reply #1045 on: December 19, 2013, 11:54:42 am »

Do votes against yourself count?

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Re: Mafia XXXVI: Dynasty Warriors Mafia 2 The Battle of Red Cliffs
« Reply #1046 on: December 19, 2013, 11:54:49 am »

Self-voting now ? Great.
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« Reply #1047 on: December 19, 2013, 11:55:30 am »

Do votes against yourself count?

Yes. You may vote for yourself. Which is virtually always HORRIBLE and incredible anti-town play.
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Re: Mafia XXXVI: Dynasty Warriors Mafia 2 The Battle of Red Cliffs
« Reply #1048 on: December 19, 2013, 11:56:23 am »

Well, Ichimaru is right actually. This jumping around, last-minute-random-voting is exactly what I didn't want. Grr, I am a little mad that I remembered the deadline wrong. At this point, the only reasonable thing to do is probably vote: faust

STOPPIT.l NOOOOOOO

EEVEE WILL BE HERE BEFORE DEADLINE

Do you think there's actually support for an Eevee lynch?

Well fine. Vote: Eevee. Worth a try.
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« Reply #1049 on: December 19, 2013, 11:57:07 am »

Do you think there's actually support for an Eevee lynch?

Well fine. Vote: Eevee. Worth a try.

Oh yeah. Definitely.
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