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[Eevee]

Being all on or all off is a far cry from a gutsy plan.

[mail-mi]

Oh scum totally tries gutsy plans. All the time.

*squints* Really? D1? Really? Cite examples.

The one that you brought up: Ash&co. in RMM9 (Jimmmm's game) being all on or all off.

That's completely different from a plan to misunderstand the setup D1. That's what we're talking about. Early D1 individual plans.

Okay, I can't think of any specific examples. But i am not going to discredit scum being gutsy on D1. It is very possible.

[Voltaire]

Okay, I can't think of any specific examples. But i am not going to discredit scum being gutsy on D1. It is very possible.

And there you have it. Possible yes, likely no. That's what I have the read I do.

[Teproc]

It's not a very complicated plan actually. In fact, I don't think I'd call it a plan. It's just a clever way to get town points in a very believable way (assuming that was chairs reaction in the scum QT initially).

Again, I don't think it's the most likely option, and I probably don't want to lynch chairs today because he has a higer chance than most people to be a PR, but it's there.

[mail-mi]

Again, I don't think it's the most likely option, and I probably don't want to lynch chairs today because he has a higer chance than most people to be a PR, but it's there.

this exactly

[liopoil]

weird, the thing is, I don't see chairs saying that as PR either... nevertheless, that's enough to leave him alone today I think.

[Robz888]

Okay I finally had time to catch up. That was actually easy, very little in the way of real developments.

I agree that chairs said something that a VT is unlikely to say, to the point where he has almost no chance of being a VT. I CAN see it as a very easily hatched scum plot. I actually tried a version of this with Galz in M31. I started talking to him in our neighbor QT as if I was confirmed town to him, and when he got confused, I tried to pretend like I thought that my role made me conf. town to him, even though it did not. The ploy didn't work...

But, am I super confident that that's what it is? No, not really. So I definitely definitely definitely agree about leaving that alone.

I don't think we can hope for an SK to solve our problems there, though. There may not be an SK.... and actually, chairs could be the SK. The mistake he made is one the SK could make.

Other stuff, Voltaire says he expects me to support his mail-mi case. I don't, sorry. My "always lynch mail-mi" stance is totally without principle so I can really defend it in this context, but anyway his oppposite to secret cases is well noted, and even makes sense given how he was mistreated by a secret case. Don't find him scummy for that and what else was it?

[Robz888]

Also I am surprised to hear so little for yuma who said like nothing since we had that exchange about why I think flavor name claim would be--and is still--favorable in the long term.

[ashersky]

Also I am surprised to hear so little for yuma who said like nothing since we had that exchange about why I think flavor name claim would be--and is still--favorable in the long term.

Lurker Yuma is town Yuma, right?

[Robz888]

Also I am surprised to hear so little for yuma who said like nothing since we had that exchange about why I think flavor name claim would be--and is still--favorable in the long term.

Lurker Yuma is town Yuma, right?

Is that true? I actually would not have said that.

[ashersky]

Also I am surprised to hear so little for yuma who said like nothing since we had that exchange about why I think flavor name claim would be--and is still--favorable in the long term.

Lurker Yuma is town Yuma, right?

Is that true? I actually would not have said that.

Maybe?

He didn't lurk in mean girls.

When was he last scum?  WWDDTWDWW?

[faust]

Well, seeing that everybody likes to talk about chairs' reaction to the claiming plan, what do you make of ashersky's reaction to it?

[liopoil]

Lurker-yuma isn't scum yuma, lurker-yuma doesn't exist.

[Voltaire]

Well, seeing that everybody likes to talk about chairs' reaction to the claiming plan, what do you make of ashersky's reaction to it?

Scummy.

And yes, I think WWTWDP was yuma's last scum game but he was SK and on his own there.

[Lekkit]

Well, seeing that everybody likes to talk about chairs' reaction to the claiming plan, what do you make of ashersky's reaction to it?

Are we sure we want to do this?

[chairs]

Well, seeing that everybody likes to talk about chairs' reaction to the claiming plan, what do you make of ashersky's reaction to it?

Are we sure we want to do this?

Why not?

[Lekkit]

As I said earlier, I think all this talk might help scum more than us.

[faust]

As I said earlier, I think all this talk might help scum more than us.

On what basis do you want us to scumhunt instead? Or don't you want us to scumhunt at all?

[Lekkit]

The hard part is that I'm not sure. I'm pretty sure I don't want to do it by helping scum figure out who the PRs are. Which I think is exactly what will happen if we continue down this road.

[chairs]

Okay, so then let's go back to "everybody post a list with any preliminary POE you'd like to do.  Points for explaining your decisions on who's "in" and who's "out" of your 'could lynch today' list".  Note that I'm not saying you wouldn't be willing to lynch them ever, just "I'd rather not lynch X Y and Z today".

[mail-mi]

don't lynch: chairs (cuz of PR claim maybe possibly) mail-mi (also duh), ichamaru
don't care: everyone else
prefer to: voltaire, and i cant remember much else.

[mail-mi]

don't lynch: chairs (cuz of PR claim maybe possibly) mail-mi (also duh), ichamaru
don't care: everyone else
prefer to: voltaire, and i cant remember much else.

and by that i mean I need to reread.

[Ichimaru Gin]

Would lynch: Voltaire, Liopoil, Yuma
Won't lynch: mail-mi, Teproc, and probably Ashersky--they all read pretty town to me
Everyone else, I'm more unsure about.
I'm still learning a lot about how to read what people do as town or scum --so just going off of general impressions here.

[Eevee]

Why do you have a towny feel on mail-mi?

[Eevee]

(And no worries, no one ever has strong reads day 1. It'll become easier as the game progresses.)