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[Lekkit]

Just wanted to pop in and say that I am here. I've been busy today, but I'm free tomorrow. Will try to read through the thread once more tomorrow as I'm almost ready for bed now. I have played a couple of games before, but I've been away from the forums for a while and from the forum games for a while before that, though.

I thought I found something odd with Voltaire earlier today when skimming through, but I can't find it anymore. It might've been me seeing something, getting stuck on it being important and then finding other stuff that supported my theories.

Also, did PoE change meaning while I was gone?

[liopoil]

Oh, and day 1 passes are stupid. PoE this early is also stupid. I just had that conversation in another game so I don't really want to get into it again, but I just thought I'd say it and move on. PoE comes after scumhunting, not before.

Maaaaybe day 1 pass for a newbie is ok from a "welcome to the community, let's not kill you immediately" perspective, but not from a in-game perspective.

agree totally. D1, we ask "Who's the scummiest?" and lynch them. Later days, we can start eliminating people for being townie, and thus making it easier to look at the few people who remain. Right now this isn't feasible because a) we have pretty much no info, and b) there's 13 suspects, no way can we get that down to a low enough number.

[Voltaire]

Also, did PoE change meaning while I was gone?

It's always been Probability of Evisceration as far as I know.

[liopoil]

Who were the two people who subbed in? liopoil and someone else....

When did you two tell mcmc that you were going to play in the game?

I sent mcmc a PM saying that I could play if I died in toy story before D1 started very shortly after he posted that he was looking for a replacement for xerses. then when I died in toy story I sent him another PM saying I could play and he sent me my role PM right away

[chairs]

Lekkit is not new, he has played a few old games and ash referred to a more recent game where they were both werewolves I think.

Oh, and day 1 passes are stupid. PoE this early is also stupid. I just had that conversation in another game so I don't really want to get into it again, but I just thought I'd say it and move on. PoE comes after scumhunting, not before.

Maaaaybe day 1 pass for a newbie is ok from a "welcome to the community, let's not kill you immediately" perspective, but not from a in-game perspective.

The problem is, I don't really know how to move to scumhunting myself, I just don't have the material yet. I guess my only scum reads right now are very light and due to theory talk, so that's not great.

I didn't realize Lekkit wasn't new, that would be enough to put him back on my table.

Also PoE is, in my opinion, a useful tool for scumhunting in that seeing who each person would take off the table is beneficial in the long run as a form of interaction.

[Voltaire]

agree totally. D1, we ask "Who's the scummiest?" and lynch them.

But see I think that is a terrible way to play D1, and it's why in the past f.ds usually lynches town D1 (we've gotten much better at this lately).

This his how I think you play D1: *I wanted to quote Galzria's explanation from that speccy thread, but I can't find it. Any help? You know the one I mean.*

[Lekkit]

Also, did PoE change meaning while I was gone?

It's always been Probability of Evisceration as far as I know.

Can't tell if you're being serious or not. I've always read it as process of elimination. Something that's not really happening now.

[Voltaire]

Also, did PoE change meaning while I was gone?

It's always been Probability of Evisceration as far as I know.

Can't tell if you're being serious or not. I've always read it as process of elimination. Something that's not really happening now.

I was joking. I think it is and should be (slowly) happening now (in the background of each player's head). I'll put forward a more serious explanation later.

Everyone should join me in lynching ash.

[Lekkit]

Because he has a scumread on chairs? I'm not sure you're seeing the same thing as me, but that doesn't make chairs definately town.

[Voltaire]

Because he has a scumread on chairs? I'm not sure you're seeing the same thing as me, but that doesn't make chairs definately town.

Let's pretend we're seeing the same thing (don't say it out loud). Do you think chairs, as scum, would post what he did?

[mcmcsalot]

Mod question:

If the Hider is targeted by a Strongman kill while hiding behind someone, do they die?

strongman bypasses doctor and jailkeeper, he would still miss the hider.

[Lekkit]

Yes, I think that's possible. Don't get me wrong. I still think it's more likely that chairs is town, but I wouldn't be that surprised to see him flip scum. However more likely SK than mafia.

[mail-mi]

agree totally. D1, we ask "Who's the scummiest?" and lynch them.

But see I think that is a terrible way to play D1, and it's why in the past f.ds usually lynches town D1 (we've gotten much better at this lately).

This his how I think you play D1: *I wanted to quote Galzria's explanation from that speccy thread, but I can't find it. Any help? You know the one I mean.*

Voltaire is totes right here. unvote, but you're not on my don't wanna lynch list yet. Also, agree with newbie D1 pass.

[ashersky]

agree totally. D1, we ask "Who's the scummiest?" and lynch them.

But see I think that is a terrible way to play D1, and it's why in the past f.ds usually lynches town D1 (we've gotten much better at this lately).

This his how I think you play D1: *I wanted to quote Galzria's explanation from that speccy thread, but I can't find it. Any help? You know the one I mean.*

Also agree.  Lynching the "scummiest" on D1 fails every single time.  Lynching by POE (or random luckiness) has worked better.  That's historically proven. 

In fact, you can ask Lekkit.  He played M17 (Buffyverse) and got POE D1 lynched as scum.

f.ds continues to do Day 1 wrong.  Just ask Galz.

[ashersky]

Because he has a scumread on chairs? I'm not sure you're seeing the same thing as me, but that doesn't make chairs definately town.

Let's pretend we're seeing the same thing (don't say it out loud). Do you think chairs, as scum, would post what he did?

I'm sure scum can't figure out what you guys are talking about.  At all.

[Voltaire]

Because he has a scumread on chairs? I'm not sure you're seeing the same thing as me, but that doesn't make chairs definately town.

Let's pretend we're seeing the same thing (don't say it out loud). Do you think chairs, as scum, would post what he did?

I'm sure scum can't figure out what you guys are talking about.  At all.

Of course not. They're silly scum.

[chairs]

Because he has a scumread on chairs? I'm not sure you're seeing the same thing as me, but that doesn't make chairs definately town.

Let's pretend we're seeing the same thing (don't say it out loud). Do you think chairs, as scum, would post what he did?

I'm sure scum can't figure out what you guys are talking about.  At all.

...would you believe that I'm not sure what they're talking about? 

[Teproc]

Well, I can't. But I haven't really tried to. That's what I like to tell myself to keep the illusion that I'm smart.

[ashersky]

Because he has a scumread on chairs? I'm not sure you're seeing the same thing as me, but that doesn't make chairs definately town.

Let's pretend we're seeing the same thing (don't say it out loud). Do you think chairs, as scum, would post what he did?

I'm sure scum can't figure out what you guys are talking about.  At all.

...would you believe that I'm not sure what they're talking about? 

You townslipped somewhere, according to them.

[Lekkit]

chairs, how many games have you played prior to this one?

[Lekkit]

Well, I can't. But I haven't really tried to. That's what I like to tell myself to keep the illusion that I'm smart.

Do you mean to say that you haven't looked hard at the game, or that you have but not found anything?

[ashersky]

chairs, how many games have you played prior to this one?

He's played "lots."  More than you, I believe, if that helps.

[chairs]

Because he has a scumread on chairs? I'm not sure you're seeing the same thing as me, but that doesn't make chairs definately town.

Let's pretend we're seeing the same thing (don't say it out loud). Do you think chairs, as scum, would post what he did?

I'm sure scum can't figure out what you guys are talking about.  At all.

...would you believe that I'm not sure what they're talking about? 

You townslipped somewhere, according to them.

That much I gathered.

chairs, how many games have you played prior to this one?

I'm honestly not sure. Somewhere in the 10-15 range at least?

[Teproc]

Well, I can't. But I haven't really tried to. That's what I like to tell myself to keep the illusion that I'm smart.

Do you mean to say that you haven't looked hard at the game, or that you have but not found anything?

I mean that I haven't reread yet.

[mail-mi]

Because he has a scumread on chairs? I'm not sure you're seeing the same thing as me, but that doesn't make chairs definately town.

Let's pretend we're seeing the same thing (don't say it out loud). Do you think chairs, as scum, would post what he did?

I'm sure scum can't figure out what you guys are talking about.  At all.

...would you believe that I'm not sure what they're talking about? 

vote: Voltaire rage vote. I hate hate hate "secret cases" even if they're "secret town slips." Remember the last time someone did this ? Yeah, they were scum.