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[Voltaire]

Also, massclaim and win? I don't see how mafia can claim any role but VT, and they might have trouble claiming a town alignment too. Point it out if there is something I'm not seeing.

[ashersky]

Don't we have the same problem as in C9++ that mass claiming D1 doesn't work?

[Voltaire]

Don't we have the same problem as in C9++ that mass claiming D1 doesn't work?

Maybe, but I'm more talking about the fact that flavor relates to alignment and it seems like mafia may not have been given fake claims?

[ashersky]

Don't we have the same problem as in C9++ that mass claiming D1 doesn't work?

Maybe, but I'm more talking about the fact that flavor relates to alignment and it seems like mafia may not have been given fake claims?

I think the fake claim is in thread, no?

[Voltaire]

I think the fake claim is in thread, no?

What are you referring to?

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Also, massclaim and win? I don't see how mafia can claim any role but VT, and they might have trouble claiming a town alignment too. Point it out if there is something I'm not seeing.

say what?  I need to reread the setup if you think this works.

[ashersky]

That sounds.. very hard for scum that doesn't know the show (game?).

Jeez people, everything will be explained.

Pm's are going out, and hopefully you learned from last time don't freak out when you get a colored Pm, The Battle of the Red Cliffs is the showdown between the massive Wei army(Bad Guys!), against the combined forces of the Wu naval fleet(Good Guys!) and some Shu officers(also good guys!)

I thought this was the fake claim info, plus a no face post later.

All before PMs.

[ashersky]

Also, massclaim and win? I don't see how mafia can claim any role but VT, and they might have trouble claiming a town alignment too. Point it out if there is something I'm not seeing.

say what?  I need to reread the setup if you think this works.

 A mass role claim doesn't work.  I don't think a flavor claim works, either, but I don't mind claiming a color if we want.

[Voltaire]

That sounds.. very hard for scum that doesn't know the show (game?).

Jeez people, everything will be explained.

Pm's are going out, and hopefully you learned from last time don't freak out when you get a colored Pm, The Battle of the Red Cliffs is the showdown between the massive Wei army(Bad Guys!), against the combined forces of the Wu naval fleet(Good Guys!) and some Shu officers(also good guys!)

I thought this was the fake claim info, plus a no face post later.

All before PMs.

But we also have a flavor name. Can we claim flavor name? Unless scum were provided with fake flavor names, they're caught. The "No Face" is just to remind people that's the flavor for VT (same as last game) I assume.

[Teproc]

Seriously, we're already talking about massclaiming ?

I'm probably against it, I'll think about it some more. Flavour claim seems pointless, this is a normal game after all, but whatever, I guess it can get discussion started.

Did flavour matter in the last iteration of this game ?

[Voltaire]

Seriously, we're already talking about massclaiming ?

I'm probably against it, I'll think about it some more. Flavour claim seems pointless, this is a normal game after all, but whatever, I guess it can get discussion started.

Did flavour matter in the last iteration of this game ?

I guess I shouldn't have said mass(role) claim. I mean mass flavor claim. I currently think we should. Flavor mattered SO MUCH last game that claiming it was forbidden (like, if it were Star Trek mafia then McCoy was clearly the Doctor, that sort of thing).

[Voltaire]

Claiming both role, and flavor will be allowed this game. Flavor does follow logically the events of Dynasty Warriors.

If this is true, will scum have fake claims?

Scum will have what I give them, you will not know what that is, though I can say  that information will be given to everyone.

OK, this is what is confusing me. It is very unclear if scum were given fake claims or not. I have to assume they were, I guess? It's also unclear if "that information" refers to us being told what scum were given (we were not) or if it refers to general information being laid out for everyone (which is true, in that red and green = good guys and blue = bad guys, and "No Face" = "VT").

[Robz888]

This is starting up at a really bad time for me, unfortunately. Don't expect much from me this week.

I just skimmed the posts so far. I think we could kingdom claim at least. Flavor claim possibly but I need to think about this. Wait, that's just straight up outing PRs, right?

[Voltaire]

This is starting up at a really bad time for me, unfortunately. Don't expect much from me this week.

I just skimmed the posts so far. I think we could kingdom claim at least. Flavor claim possibly but I need to think about this. Wait, that's just straight up outing PRs, right?

I don't think so? Would it be? You know the flavor way more than everyone else. If it is, it should out scum too right?

[Robz888]

Additionally I know a ton about the flavor for this game. I can do like a big explanation of what happened in the Battle of the Red Cliffs if that's helpful. But not like until tonight at the earliest.

[Voltaire]

Additionally I know a ton about the flavor for this game. I can do like a big explanation of what happened in the Battle of the Red Cliffs if that's helpful. But not like until tonight at the earliest.

That would actually be fantastically helpful. Take your time, the game is new.

[Robz888]

This is starting up at a really bad time for me, unfortunately. Don't expect much from me this week.

I just skimmed the posts so far. I think we could kingdom claim at least. Flavor claim possibly but I need to think about this. Wait, that's just straight up outing PRs, right?

I don't think so? Would it be? You know the flavor way more than everyone else. If it is, it should out scum too right?

Well scum will just lie.

[Teproc]

Wikipedia exist, I've taken a quick look. The GoT fans among you might recognize a certain move made by the southern navy, it's pretty funny.

[Robz888]

Oh! But they don't know who to say they are instead . Yes, mass claim immediately

[Robz888]

Oh! But they don't know who to say they are instead . Yes, mass claim immediately

Wait it can't be that easy. How do we know they dot have fake claims? Mcmc said that?

[Teproc]

I think you guys have low confidence in mcmcs's ability to mod a game if you think a mass flavour claim will out scum. It seems more likely to help scum find PRs to me now that I think of it.

[Voltaire]

Oh! But they don't know who to say they are instead . Yes, mass claim immediately

Exactly.

PPE: See what I quoted. It's unclear. When Eevee and I were asking pre-game he never straight-up said "mafia will have fake claims".

[Voltaire]

I think you guys have low confidence in mcmcs's ability to mod a game if you think a mass flavour claim will out scum. It seems more likely to help scum find PRs to me now that I think of it.

Yes, it would out PRs. It would also out scum. The reason why I'm thinking about this so much is last game flavor claiming was forbidden because it would break the game. This time flavor claiming is allowed, but that it still "Flavor does follow logically the events of Dynasty Warriors."

[Teproc]

My guess is he didn't to encourage us to have a discussion about it (if we knew they had fake claims we wouldn't even be discussing it right ?). But I don't think it could out scum because that would be stupid.

[chairs]

Oh! But they don't know who to say they are instead . Yes, mass claim immediately

Are we already so sold this is a good idea?  Based on my read of the setup, anybody who actually has a name to claim is a PR.