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[Twistedarcher]

Walrus, how sure were you that Mail-mi was evil lancelot? I was trying to signal to you, but I'm not sure how much it affected your decision.

[Twistedarcher]

This is tough for Merlin. Even if good win, it's 1/3, and it shouldnt be hard to disqualify good lancelot (1/2 known, 1/2 time easy to figure out), so spies have a good chance of guessing. Luckily Walrus and I were on the same page and both played him up as Merlin and myself as Percival.

If Good Lancelot ends up Evil, both Merlin and Percival should claim GL, to bring it back to 1/3.

But Mordred will know who Good Lancelot is, since he started as Evil Lancelot, right?

[Jimmmmm]

This is tough for Merlin. Even if good win, it's 1/3, and it shouldnt be hard to disqualify good lancelot (1/2 known, 1/2 time easy to figure out), so spies have a good chance of guessing. Luckily Walrus and I were on the same page and both played him up as Merlin and myself as Percival.

If Good Lancelot ends up Evil, both Merlin and Percival should claim GL, to bring it back to 1/3.

But Mordred will know who Good Lancelot is, since he started as Evil Lancelot, right?

Uh so the way I think of it is Good Lancelot and Evil Lancelot are the character names, and they do not swap, only their alignments swap. So GL could end up Evil, but his name is still Good Lancelot. Maybe that's confusing for some people, I don't know.
So Mordred knows who Evil Lancelot is, and if Evil Lancelot ends up Good then he doesn't know his teammate, Good Lancelot. So Merlin and Percival should both claim Good Lancelot (who is Evil).

[liopoil]

nice! I thought it was walrus too, hence my scrambling at the end... very well done TA and walrus!

I never really did much... I didn't know what my motives were! all I really wanted was to get myself in a position to be on missions once I knew my alignment... which didn't work out.

[Twistedarcher]

I knew you were Good Lancelot as soon as I figured out Walrus was Percival, but I think that if I put Walrus/TA/Liopoil M4, it would have been too obvious. I was comfortable putting Walrus/TA/Mail-mi, knowing that I had the hammer for M5 to put the correct team.

[Jimmmmm]

nice! I thought it was walrus too, hence my scrambling at the end... very well done TA and walrus!

I never really did much... I didn't know what my motives were! all I really wanted was to get myself in a position to be on missions once I knew my alignment... which didn't work out.

Yeah, I feel like it's hard for the Lancelots to figure out what they're doing if they don't know what alignment they'll end up as. If you've read the Lancelot rules, the 2nd suggested variant fixes this by having all swaps public at the start of the game, so everyone knows which will be which at all times. This could be interesting, but I feel like it takes away from the mystery of the Lancelots. A third way that I came up with that I'd like to try out some time is for only the Lancelots to know when they'll swap. So they'll both know what alignment they'll be when, but no one else will.

[mail-mi]

[WalrusMcFishSr]

I was actually quite sure of that last mission based on the following reasoning:

M1 means very little because it's M1.
M2, I knew Twisted and I are good, so I know Arch is evil.
M3, mail-mi succeeds. I didn't think that at that point he would do a decoy pass as scum. So I figured he must be good Lancelot at that point. And then the allegiances switched back.

In fact, when Twisted was talking about Excalibur right before M4, I was like SHUT UP, don't make mail-mi suspicious! Lol. So I had to try to play it cool.

[liopoil]

ooo, I should have been more aware that my fellow resistance members knew much more than I did...

[Archetype]

Great work if you're Merlin, TA.

Great job TA! And Walrus! And liopoil!

Twisted just seemed too...obvious as Merlin. Like that "Well mail-mi is always scum" Or something to that effect was a big reason why I figured you weren't Merlin, but you were! I also figured out liopoil was my secret partner because he rejected the same mission I did post-Lancelot switch. And Walrus accepted, even though he wasn't on the mission. So I figured he must've known something about mail-mi's alignment 'cause he wanted MM on the mission after the switch. But really nice play, you had me fooled.

[WalrusMcFishSr]

Great game all! I had a lot of fun.

[Jimmmmm]

I think a problem that this game can have, particularly with Avalon roles, is that because everyone has something to hide, it can be hard to generate discussion. In Mafia, generally the game gets to the point where Town members can put every single thought they have out there, whereas here everyone has a filter. Maybe the way to get past that is for people to better learn strategies etc of the game so people can lead discussion without giving away whether they're Merlin.

[WalrusMcFishSr]

I definitely know what you mean Jimmmmm. Especially with the Lancelots...I had mixed feelings about those roles. But it's interesting, it makes you choose your words very carefully.

Who's gonna host the next one? I wouldn't mind, if nobody else wants to.

[Jimmmmm]

I definitely know what you mean Jimmmmm. Especially with the Lancelots...I had mixed feelings about those roles. But it's interesting, it makes you choose your words very carefully.

Who's gonna host the next one? I wouldn't mind, if nobody else wants to.

I'll play!

[Jimmmmm]

Oh, we had a couple of speccy QTs.