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[Jimmmmm]

Well there you go. I guess lynching claimed PRs is kind of what we do here.

[Voltaire]

Well there you go. I guess lynching claimed PRs is kind of what we do here.

This exact situation is the 1% of the time I'm willing to do that.

[mcmcsalot]

Well there you go. I guess lynching claimed PRs is kind of what we do here.

Unconfirmable, unprovoked, D1 claims...

[Voltaire]

Well there you go. I guess lynching claimed PRs is kind of what we do here.

Unconfirmable, unprovoked, D1 claims...

Exactly.

[Jimmmmm]

None of yuma, Twisted or Morgrim are online, so we could be waiting a while for a flip.

[Jimmmmm]

If Morgrim actually flips scum I will thank you and admit you've done the right thing. Unfortunately I don't think that's going to happen.

[Voltaire]

If Morgrim actually flips scum I will thank you and admit you've done the right thing. Unfortunately I don't think that's going to happen.

Well, I clearly disagree. 

[ashersky]

Robz not screaming at the top of his lungs that vigs shouldn't shoot N1 if it exists?  Scum!robz.

[ashersky]

I also agree with Volt, obviously, that this was the right move.

I think we're in good shape for tomorrow.

I second mcmc that no one else should try to convince 2.7 on a target.

[Voltaire]

Robz not screaming at the top of his lungs that vigs shouldn't shoot N1 if it exists?  Scum!robz.

No. He didn't do that in WWTWDP and he was town.

[ashersky]

Robz not screaming at the top of his lungs that vigs shouldn't shoot N1 if it exists?  Scum!robz.

No. He didn't do that in WWTWDP and he was town.

Huh.  Was he the vig?

Maybe he's changed his mind?

[Voltaire]

Robz not screaming at the top of his lungs that vigs shouldn't shoot N1 if it exists?  Scum!robz.

No. He didn't do that in WWTWDP and he was town.

Huh.  Was he the vig?

Maybe he's changed his mind?

Are you rolefishing? Because it really looks like you're rolefishing.

He was not the Vig, btw. I was scum, and my team thought he was the Vig because of it.

[ashersky]

Robz not screaming at the top of his lungs that vigs shouldn't shoot N1 if it exists?  Scum!robz.

No. He didn't do that in WWTWDP and he was town.

Huh.  Was he the vig?

Maybe he's changed his mind?

Are you rolefishing? Because it really looks like you're rolefishing.

He was not the Vig, btw. I was scum, and my team thought he was the Vig because of it.

Fishing for what?  I agree with Faust, we are likely out of PRs.

I woke up to twilight, just trying to get everything out there that comes to mind before a lock.

[2.71828.....]

No, I am the one rolefishing asking people to give reasons why I should bodyguard them.

c'mon guys, you really think I would take someone's advice?  It would really just be one more thing down on record about them that we can consider. 

well, hopefully WE can consider.  Some of us will be considering things at least.

[ashersky]

No, I am the one rolefishing asking people to give reasons why I should bodyguard them.

c'mon guys, you really think I would take someone's advice?  It would really just be one more thing down on record about them that we can consider. 

well, hopefully WE can consider.  Some of us will be considering things at least.

You don't see the problem with this?  A PR may be more likely to ask for protection seems to be your premise.  If true, that's terrible for us.  So you aren't helping.

[Voltaire]

Fishing for what?  I agree with Faust, we are likely out of PRs.

I woke up to twilight, just trying to get everything out there that comes to mind before a lock.

We don't know we're out of PRs at all. It is likely we are, but we do not know that.

It really looks like you were trying to out Robz as more likely to be the Vig. I can't envision a scenario where that makes sense unless you're the Traitor, so I really want that Morgrim flip more now.

PPE: e wtf?

[Voltaire]

Ugh. Everyone shut up and let's wait for the flip.

[ashersky]

Ugh. Everyone shut up and let's wait for the flip.

Yeah, no.

I was calling out Robz (half jokingly) for not jumping up and down about what a vig should do.  He and I are opposed on the matter.  Especially if we lynched scum today, I think shooting is the right move.

[2.71828.....]

No, I am the one rolefishing asking people to give reasons why I should bodyguard them.

c'mon guys, you really think I would take someone's advice?  It would really just be one more thing down on record about them that we can consider. 

well, hopefully WE can consider.  Some of us will be considering things at least.

You don't see the problem with this?  A PR may be more likely to ask for protection seems to be your premise.  If true, that's terrible for us.  So you aren't helping.

Ok.  That a PR would ask for my protection was not my original thought.  It was kind of an add-on when I saw the post about role-fishing.  My original thought was primarily just to get some reactions and see what happened.  I was not being all that serious.  If someone actually responded (which I doubted) we may have been able to learn something which would have been cool.  I didn't have very high expectations for serious responses.

[ashersky]

Most recent Morgrim opinions. Let me know if any of this is wrong:

Voting Morgrim: Robz, mcmc, teproc, ashersky, Jorbles
Intent to vote Morgrim: Voltaire
OK to watch Morgrim lynch: 2.7, Jimmmmm(?)
Will not vote for: faust, Walrus
Who knows: Morgrim, manda

So we need manda to get back here.

Another thing to think about: if Morgrim is the traitor, scum has an incredibly risky position to take. Do they lynch Morgrim, risking they're lynching one of their own? Or do they happily lynching Morgrim, hoping they're taking out a town PR D1?

This will be very important/useful tomorrow for wagon anaylsis.

[ashersky]

This:

I want to lynch Morgrim because he's frustrating and unhelpful. But I'm loath to lynch a claimed PR who, if truthful, can potentially give us decent results.

Plus this:

Well there you go. I guess lynching claimed PRs is kind of what we do here.

= noticable hesitation while still wanting to see willing to go with the lynch.  Scum afraid of lynching the Traitor?  Scum not wanting to look like he's taking the easy lynch option?  Town truly hesitant?

(FWIW, I do believe Jimmmmm's beliefs about how the game works matches up with his hesitation, so I see town!Jimmmmm as likely to exist in this situation as scum!Jimmmm.  I just noticed this on catch-up re-read and felt it bore mentioning.)

[Robz888]

Ash, I had similar thoughts about Jimm, but I think they are best explored Day 2. Well, we need the flip for one thing. For another, I don't want to clue scum in to who they should shoot based on where my suspicions currently lie.

[Jimmmmm]

This:

I want to lynch Morgrim because he's frustrating and unhelpful. But I'm loath to lynch a claimed PR who, if truthful, can potentially give us decent results.

Plus this:

Well there you go. I guess lynching claimed PRs is kind of what we do here.

= noticable hesitation while still wanting to see willing to go with the lynch.  Scum afraid of lynching the Traitor?  Scum not wanting to look like he's taking the easy lynch option?  Town truly hesitant?

(FWIW, I do believe Jimmmmm's beliefs about how the game works matches up with his hesitation, so I see town!Jimmmmm as likely to exist in this situation as scum!Jimmmm.  I just noticed this on catch-up re-read and felt it bore mentioning.)

I was never willing to go with the lynch at any time after the claim. I wanted to vote for Morgrim from an emotional, policy vote point of view because he was being frustratingly unhelpful, but I never wanted to vote for him from a wanting to win the game point of view. The second quote was resigned sarcasm.

[yuma]

Final Day1 Vote Count

ashersky (1): Walrus
Jorbles (1): manda
manda (1): Jimmmmm
Morgrim (7): Robz, mcmc, teproc, ashersky, Jorbles, 2.7, Voltaire

Not Voting (2): faust, Morgrim

The guests spent the first hour exploring the edible candy garden. They were fascinated by how everything was edible. The grass was edible, the trees were edible, the benches were edible. Even the birds and the worms were edible (raw!) And everything tasted like candy.

Morgrim (Sophie, from The BFG) suddenly declared... I wonder if I am edible and took a bite out of her arm.

"Gah! That is horrible!" cried the other guests. "Only someone who ate from the chocobad pile would be capable of something so bad! He must be one of the bad guests who ate the candy and must be punished!"

"Quick remove him from the premises if you think he is bad," cried Willy Wonka. "I won't have thievery in my factory!"

The guests quickly assembled a mob and pushed Morgrim into the Chocolate River. He was then sucked up and taken away by a giant robot vacuum.

"Where will it take him?" asked a guest.

"To the garbage dump where all the bad guests must go," Willy replied.

As Morgrim disappeared someone noticed a wrapper on the ground. The guest picked it up and read "chocosneaky"... Morgrim (Sophie from the BFG) the Town Tracker has been removed from the Chocolate Factory.

Night1 Starts Now!
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