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mail-mi, for the subject

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Faust, against the subject

13 (92.9%)

Total Members Voted: 14

Voting closed: May 31, 2014, 03:38:01 am

[Voltaire]

If it's impossible to differentiate a scum tell from a townie mistake how are they different?

They aren't.

[mail-mi]

That one game when I used < > instead of [ ], was a true scumslip.  Wasn't on purpose, I was scum, had daychat and was switching back and forth.

What about the game where I was town and used < > instead of [ ]? Doesn't the fact that I did this as town mean that it's not a scumslip, just a slip that anyone can make?

Just because town can do it by accident doesn't disqualify it as a scum slip.

This.  Scum, and only scum, can commit a scumslip.  Town just makes mistakes.  The hard part is differentiating.  But the slips themselves absolutely exist.

Then it is a technically correct, practically useless term.

just the way everyone on the dominion forums likes

[eHalcyon]

If it's impossible to differentiate a scum tell from a townie mistake how are they different?

They aren't.

I think it's possible to differentiate, and the term is not useless.  You discover that somebody has made a mistake.  Is it a scumslip, or just a regular old mistake?  This prompts discussion.  You can examine the context around the mistake.  Is it something that came from scum-only knowledge?  Was it just a bad assumption by a townie?  Did the player make the same mistake repeatedly in a way that suggests it's more than just a simple error?  How did they respond after it came to light?

[ashersky]

Then it is a technically correct, practically useless term.

That's probably true like 90% of the time.  But then sometimes you nail someone for it, and it's awesome.

[Watno]

Shouldn't all these threads be in the Mafia subboard?

[yuma]

Shouldn't all these threads be in the Mafia subboard?

can't tell if you are being ironic or not...

[Watno]

I'm not. They are part of a Mafia game and clutter this board.

[ashersky]

I'm not. They are part of a Mafia game and clutter this board.

This is a discussion about whether scumslips exist in mafia or other non-mafia forum games.

[Watno]

So what do all the other debate threads do here?

[ashersky]

So what do all the other debate threads do here?

I've gotten more hate for this than possibly anything I've ever experienced in my life.

[Kirian]

I'm not. They are part of a Mafia game and clutter this board.

This is a discussion about whether scumslips exist in mafia or other non-mafia forum games.

I agree with Watno.  No matter how much you choose to change the thread title and the OP, this was part of a Mafia game, and applies only to social deduction games (like Mafia), all of which are variants on Werewolf.  It has no application to any other style of game.

[Watno]

I'm sorry, if this already had been discussed before I wasn't aware of it.

The only thing I know is that the thread titles made me think these threads were part of a Mafia game and therefore belonged in the Mafia subboard, and they were definitely threads I didn't think belonged in the top level Forum Games board.

[Watno]

Thanls for moving the threads, anyway.

[liopoil]

I think ash's idea was for people not in the game to see it so that more people would vote.

[eHalcyon]

I think the easiest solution is to stick them somewhere visible to start but move them back to the Mafia forum when it's done.

[pingpongsam]

I have been meaning to compile every instance in which somone was accused of a "scumslip".  I have a strong suspicion that it will favor on the side of those making said slips being town. Obviously that will be expected given that the majority of players in a game are town.

If you do this also take note of the claimant's alignment. I suspect that more often than not it is scum claiming a tawny made a scum slip.