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Re: What if the Base Set was released last?
« Reply #50 on: October 16, 2013, 11:06:09 am »
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Re: What if the Base Set was released last?
« Reply #51 on: October 16, 2013, 11:12:42 am »
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Donald would have had more time to review and change cards, and i'm certain neither Woodcutter nor Thief would look like they look. I guess poor Chancellor wouldn't be there at all.

But he is, hooray! :D
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Re: What if the Base Set was released last?
« Reply #52 on: October 16, 2013, 02:10:01 pm »
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Donald would have had more time to review and change cards, and i'm certain neither Woodcutter nor Thief would look like they look.
I'm certain Woodcutter would.
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Re: What if the Base Set was released last?
« Reply #53 on: October 16, 2013, 05:36:48 pm »
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Donald would have had more time to review and change cards, and i'm certain neither Woodcutter nor Thief would look like they look.
I'm certain Woodcutter wood.

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Re: What if the Base Set was released last?
« Reply #54 on: October 17, 2013, 06:29:56 am »
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Maybe we would have the +buy of woodcutter and the discard deck of chancellor in a single card, this idea has been already proposed and I really like it. The interesting thing is that both effects synergize : you buy more cards and that go straight in your draw deck.
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Re: What if the Base Set was released last?
« Reply #55 on: October 17, 2013, 11:10:32 am »
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Donald would have had more time to review and change cards, and i'm certain neither Woodcutter nor Thief would look like they look.
I'm certain Woodcutter wood.

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Re: What if the Base Set was released last?
« Reply #56 on: October 17, 2013, 11:22:54 am »
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Imagine if the base set was released after all the other sets, with a theme like "no frills" and a name like Dominion: Frugality.

What cards would you have chosen for previews, and what would you have said about them?

Would it have been the worst expansion?

Absolutely the worst. I suspect that Dominion would actually be a more interesting game if you played it with only the expansions.

Most expansions have a few miscalibrated cards, but at least a third of the base set is either overpowered or overpriced, both relative to the other expansions and even relative to the base treasures. Releasing those cards was understandable at the time, but releasing them now would just be negligent.
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Re: What if the Base Set was released last?
« Reply #57 on: October 17, 2013, 12:05:37 pm »
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Absolutely the worst.
Agree.

There are some fun cards in there, but if I had to pick one box to remove from dominion that would hurt the game least, I would certainly pick the base.

Except that it might make the game much less likely to attract up new players.
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Re: What if the Base Set was released last?
« Reply #58 on: October 17, 2013, 12:24:59 pm »
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Imagine if the base set was released after all the other sets, with a theme like "no frills" and a name like Dominion: Frugality.

What cards would you have chosen for previews, and what would you have said about them?

Would it have been the worst expansion?

Absolutely the worst. I suspect that Dominion would actually be a more interesting game if you played it with only the expansions.

Most expansions have a few miscalibrated cards, but at least a third of the base set is either overpowered or overpriced, both relative to the other expansions and even relative to the base treasures. Releasing those cards was understandable at the time, but releasing them now would just be negligent.

Throne Room, Library, and Gardens are some of my favorite cards. I'd hate to not have them.
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Re: What if the Base Set was released last?
« Reply #59 on: October 19, 2013, 04:55:40 pm »
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When I played first with Base and Intrigue only, Remodel and Torturer were my favourite cards (although Torturer needed villages to work efficiently ; I disliked Witch for this reason).
When I discovered the other sets... I looked as Remodel as something poor, and Torturer was still one of my favourites. I also understood how Chapel could get strong with all those possibilites of engines, even though I quickly understood trashing was important and Chapel could change the game (beware of not trashing too much of your coppers ^^) but since Intrigue also had Masquerade, Stewart and Trading post, it wasn't blitzing.
And today, Torturer is still my favourite attack.
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Re: What if the Base Set was released last?
« Reply #60 on: October 19, 2013, 05:24:44 pm »
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Another hypothetical could be if the sets were released from last to first. So Guilds, then Dark Ages, then ending with Base.
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Re: What if the Base Set was released last?
« Reply #61 on: October 19, 2013, 06:18:23 pm »
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Another hypothetical could be if the sets were released from last to first. So Guilds, then Dark Ages, then ending with Base.
The game would be pretty stupid until the base cards would be released after Dark Ages.

On a more serious note, at least Rebuild would have been initially considered weaker than it actually is, since about half of the games would have Shelters.
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