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Re: NewMafia IV (Mafia win flawlessly)
« Reply #375 on: September 16, 2013, 03:26:58 pm »

I will say, this was not like a normal mafia game.  I think this was mainly due to mostly everybody lurking, and that two vets were killed right away.
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Re: NewMafia IV (Mafia win flawlessly)
« Reply #376 on: September 16, 2013, 03:29:42 pm »

it may not be your fault that you were being accused and stuff, however, you SHOULD regret that hammer. quickhammers as town are very very bad, and this is a perfect example of why. If you hadn't hammered, jon117killer gets back online and claims, doesn't get lynched, and not only is there a chance for scum to be lynched that day, but you don't get auto-lynched the next day. Only scenario I can imagine town quickhammering is if they KNOW the player they are hammering is scum, via a cop result or something. and even then, it's usually bad.
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Re: NewMafia IV (Mafia win flawlessly)
« Reply #377 on: September 16, 2013, 03:34:47 pm »

And I've realized this now.. Gah.
What was a really problem for me was that I always read my posts out loud. When I do that, it doesn't sound suspicious at all.

But when I post it, it's like someone is reading it with a very low, silky, evil voice..
"I'm going to go into your bed during the night, and stab you in the neck repeatedly..."

I can at least learn from mistakes; this game was a certain one.
One more thing being that in NMIII, I didn't even have time to learn much. People got too butt hurt, and it turned out badly for everyone. In fact, even throughout all that butt hurt, I was more calm there than I was here.
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Re: NewMafia IV (Mafia win flawlessly)
« Reply #378 on: September 16, 2013, 03:36:06 pm »

I have no regrets.

I blame you all.

I was a townie the whole time.

You all lose.
As do you...

Good point ;-;

All jokes (posed as a serious comment) aside, I think it was a bit of a disappointing game.. Manipulation frustrates me at most times, but I'm feeling up for another mafia game, hoping it won't end up like a frustration-train wreck.
I'll try to have a better attitude in the future.

Yeah, it's frustrating, but ultimately this is a game of
Manipulation and lying at its core.
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Re: NewMafia IV (Mafia win flawlessly)
« Reply #379 on: September 16, 2013, 03:47:09 pm »

I have no regrets.

I blame you all.

I was a townie the whole time.

You all lose.
As do you...

Good point ;-;

All jokes (posed as a serious comment) aside, I think it was a bit of a disappointing game.. Manipulation frustrates me at most times, but I'm feeling up for another mafia game, hoping it won't end up like a frustration-train wreck.
I'll try to have a better attitude in the future.

Yeah, it's frustrating, but ultimately this is a game of
Manipulation and lying at its core.
It is! and I understand that.
I guess I'll have to rephrase..

I don't mind the manipulation and lying that goes on in Mafia, it is the kind of manipulation that forms my own words into something entirely different.
Does that make sense..? xD
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Re: NewMafia IV (Mafia win flawlessly)
« Reply #380 on: September 16, 2013, 03:49:01 pm »

Congratulations mafia!  You fooled everyone.. well done!
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Re: NewMafia IV (Mafia win flawlessly)
« Reply #381 on: September 16, 2013, 04:08:26 pm »

Yeah, I get what you mean. But that's all that we have to go on!

I think, ironically, the people who pushed hardest for you were town, not mafia. So we weren't being manipulative...just wrong!!
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Re: NewMafia IV (Mafia win flawlessly)
« Reply #382 on: September 16, 2013, 04:23:09 pm »

Heh, except for me. I was doing a bit of manipulating. But man, Box, you were just begging to be made suspicious. I did try not to lie though... Oh also, we didn't lose.
I must say I didn't really understand some of the claims of "lurking". I mean I tried (and succeeded I think) to post every day, yet this was not enough for some people. I mean posting three times in a row surely doesn't really count as three posts does it?
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Re: NewMafia IV (Mafia win flawlessly)
« Reply #383 on: September 16, 2013, 04:25:07 pm »

Well played Mafia.
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Re: NewMafia IV (Mafia win flawlessly)
« Reply #384 on: September 16, 2013, 04:40:57 pm »

I must say I didn't really understand some of the claims of "lurking". I mean I tried (and succeeded I think) to post every day, yet this was not enough for some people. I mean posting three times in a row surely doesn't really count as three posts does it?

That is the bare minimum required.  Most people post more, and the more people post, the better for town that it is.  A "normal" D1 usually has twice as many pages as this whole game does.
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Re: NewMafia IV (Mafia win flawlessly)
« Reply #385 on: September 16, 2013, 04:47:33 pm »

The high amount of lurking from town (myself included) really helped Mafia. if there's anything to take away from this,that's probably the best lesson.

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Re: NewMafia IV (Mafia win flawlessly)
« Reply #386 on: September 16, 2013, 04:49:40 pm »

Uhh.. Just to point out, I didn't lurk at all.

Unless not even going on the forums is lurking, I wasn't.
I posted every time I got on here.
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Re: NewMafia IV (Mafia win flawlessly)
« Reply #387 on: September 16, 2013, 05:16:15 pm »

Uhh.. Just to point out, I didn't lurk at all.

Unless not even going on the forums is lurking, I wasn't.
I posted every time I got on here.

Good habit to have, Box.

I didn't post super frequently mostly because I would view the pages at work, but didn't really have any dedicated time to read and process the latest posts and post something meaningful, but at the same time being careful. It's too easy to make careless mistakes or slips of the tongue for everyone to see and review. Balance of activity and thoughtfulness. To few posts, even if they were really good posts, as well as saying things just for the sake of saying them, without thinking them through can make you look suspicious.
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Re: NewMafia IV (Mafia win flawlessly)
« Reply #388 on: September 16, 2013, 05:54:16 pm »

I guess I consider not even being on the site part of "lurking".  Our day wasn't active, and it hurt.

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Re: NewMafia IV (Mafia win flawlessly)
« Reply #389 on: September 16, 2013, 06:24:18 pm »

Uhh.. Just to point out, I didn't lurk at all.

Unless not even going on the forums is lurking, I wasn't.
I posted every time I got on here.

I didn't mean every single person playing, I was just meaning in general.  Some people didn't lurk as much as others.

...But, you did not post as much as most people do.  But that's okay, too, as long as you post some.
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Re: NewMafia IV (Mafia win flawlessly)
« Reply #390 on: September 16, 2013, 06:41:47 pm »

Huh.

Well played scum! I thought the team was Box/Chairs, but man you had me fooled!

Thanks for running it sudgy and mail-mi!
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Re: NewMafia IV (Mafia win flawlessly)
« Reply #391 on: September 16, 2013, 07:46:55 pm »

Final Post count (this includes pre-game and post-game)

gveo - 35
archetype - 17
box - 45
jon - 18
faust - 47
chairs - 44
cuttlebone - 18
jdaki - 33
twisted - 60

This is what we mean by lurking... that the player that was killed Night1 had more posts Day1 than everyone else who lived onto the next days. In some cases it was ~15 more, but in others it was excessively more...

Of course his high post count (or rather his activity and leading of town) was likely a huge reason for his death. Nor am I suggesting that everyone needs to be posting to the extent that he did, but rather that for successive days this game seemed to stagnate and stall tremendously and that those moments greatly favored mafia over town.
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Re: NewMafia IV (Day 3)
« Reply #392 on: November 26, 2013, 07:04:48 pm »

I'm not sure who to give MVP to, so I'll take ideas.

I'd say Cuttlebone personally.

this was the only post in regard to an MVP. Mod agrees?
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Re: NewMafia IV (Day 3)
« Reply #393 on: November 26, 2013, 07:07:50 pm »

I'm not sure who to give MVP to, so I'll take ideas.

I'd say Cuttlebone personally.

this was the only post in regard to an MVP. Mod agrees?

Hm, I'm still not sure.  I don't really remember the game too much now anyways...  I'll put it up for a vote:

Who should get MVP?

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Cuttlebone (1): Voltaire
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