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[Voltaire]

Except not mine anymore.

Ash, why the unannounced L-1 vote? When you thought I did that in clue (as town), you were all over my (town) butt for such a thing.

[sudgy]

That does increase ash's scuminess in my eyes.  I'm still not lynching him today though.

[yuma]

Vote Count 1.yuma.3

chairs (1): theorel, sudgy
sudgy (5): Twistedarcher, yuma, chairs, nkirbit, ash
ashersky (2): Galzria, XerxesPraelor
XerxesPraelor (1): Eevee
Twistedarcher (1): mail-mi
mail-mi (1): ashersky
yuma (1): Robz

Not Voting (1): voltaire

[Voltgloss]

And now they're gibbering about "derps" and "hammers."  I thought we were "voting" to a "lynch?"  Pfah.  Such brusque lingo will never catch on.

At least the test of the lynching machine was a terrific success.  If by "success" you mean "immediate evisceration followed by a sublimely brutal flossing."  Which I do.

-- excerpted from the journals of Cao Cao

Vote Count 1.9:

chairs (2): theorel, sudgy
sudgy (5): Twistedarcher, chairs, yuma, nkirbit, ashersky
ashersky (2): Galzria, XerxesPraelor
XerxesPraelor (1): Eevee
Twistedarcher (1): mail-mi
yuma (1): Robz888

Not Voting (1): Voltaire

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Day 1 ends on October, 19 at 8:00 p.m. Forum time.

[Voltaire]

vote: ash until I get a damn good explanation.

[nkirbit]

That's mean girls, right?  I haven't looked at that game in a while Sudgy.. I'll take a few minutes to do so now.

[sudgy]

That's mean girls, right?  I haven't looked at that game in a while Sudgy.. I'll take a few minutes to do so now.

Yeah.

[ashersky]

vote: sudgy

Pretty sure that's the hammer, unless you or nkirbit were already voting him.

if not it's L-1 because Robz unvoted.

EVERYONE ELSE CHECK THE VOTE COUNTS

huge scumread on ash if he just "derp"hammered or L-1'd. He knows better.

Dude, jumpy?

[sudgy]

Except not mint anymore.

Sorry, couldn't resist...   

[ashersky]

vote: ash until I get a damn good explanation.

Explanation of what?  Why I put a perfectly safe vote on someone even when YOU didn't know the count?

[Robz888]

Back to Vote: Voltaire

[ashersky]

vote: voltaire

Was just going to ask if anyone was interested.  That reaction to almost losing his scum partner sudgy was classic.

[nkirbit]

Sudgy, I just read all your posts in Mean Girls, and I sort of see what you're saying.  After the pressure turned on you, you were pretty much exclusively defending yourself, yeah.

But the timelines in the two games are just so different.  In that game, the wagon on you was less than a day long, from the time Robz claimed IC until the time you got lynched.  We had already passed our soft deadline, and were near the end of the day so we needed to get a lynch down quickly.  You were defending yourself from that point, but that's appropriate because we were so close to the deadline.

But before that, you were looking at others much more than you were here.  And in LOTR, you continued to look at others even after you were under pressure (from memory, I haven't re-read that game since I played it, admittedly.)  I don't know why you were so focused on your defense several days ago.. the chances of us quicklynching you are so low that as town, I would think that you would look around more than you did.

[Voltaire]

vote: ash until I get a damn good explanation.

Explanation of what?  Why I put a perfectly safe vote on someone even when YOU didn't know the count?

Why you cast an unannounced L-1 vote. You have in the past made it abundantly clear you consider such an action ultra-scummy. So why did you do it?

[nkirbit]

vote: voltaire

Was just going to ask if anyone was interested.  That reaction to almost losing his scum partner sudgy was classic.

Do you think that scum!voltaire would be outraged if Sudgy were town?  What about town!Voltaire, not knowing Sudgy's alignment?

I read it as pretty neutral, myself.  I also don't find you at all scummy for that vote.. it's the voters job to make sure they're not hammering.

[sudgy]

If you think Voltaire is my scum partner, why lynch him when you don't even know I'm scum?  That's just a bad way of going about things (as yuma (I think) said earlier).

Also, could everybody voting for someone explain why they are voting for that person?  I see a bajillion votes but not too much explanation.

PPE: nkirbit, remember, also, that my playstyle changes game to game a bit (I think my post explaining that was even in MXXV).

[Voltaire]

I read it as pretty neutral, myself.  I also don't find you at all scummy for that vote.. it's the voters job to make sure they're not hammering.

I am more interested in the intense ash!contradiction inherent in such a thing.

[Galzria]

unvote

[nkirbit]

I agree with Yuma more than Robz in terms of Sudgy's panicking.  Both scum and town panic, for sure, but I think Sudgy's does fall on the side of scum in my mind.  I think when town panics, they tend to look elsewhere and desperately try and find "a better case"... I know I did this as town in both B2B and Dr. Who when I was on the chopping blocks.  Trying to find something that will convince everyone that others are more guilty... it's more likely to happen for a town member because the stuff IS there, you just have to find it.  I think Sudgy also did more of this when he was on the chopping block day1 in LOTR2.. he pushed a case on TA quite heavily, even when he was one of the primary lynches.

The only case I can remember of a player completely tunneling in on their own defense, ignoring all other cases entirely, is Chairs in Harry Potter.  And he was scum there.

Sudgy certainly is different from LOTR2 from what I recall of that game.

Vote: Sudgy

Yay, a vote on me that actually makes sense!

Hm.  We often find scum saying things like, "I see the case you're making, but...".  Mail-Mi has done it twice, and I think there have been other examples.  This is close to that.

Votes on town members don't make sense, because THEY'RE WRONG.

This makes me feel more secure in my vote.

[chairs]

Ash volt sudgy scum team calling it now.

[Galzria]

The Sudgy lynch is nice at this point for a variety of reasons. First and foremost, there's been a lot of movement around the wagon from many different players. Certainly going forward there will be a good deal to analyze one way or another.

[Voltaire]

Willing to go back to sudgy except for ash's lack of answering my question about his behavior. Which is the exact opposite of how he claims town behaves.

[nkirbit]

Ash volt sudgy scum team calling it now.

Why?

And what do you think of Sudgy, Galz?

[Voltaire]

Ash volt sudgy scum team calling it now.

Don't you have anything else to say, Mr. Lurk?

[sudgy]

Ash volt sudgy scum team calling it now.

Like the question I've asked you multiple times now?


Also, another random rant.  I get lynched in almost every game I play.  I've been trying harder not to get lynched because of this by opposing it more, but it always just gets people more suspicious of me.  So, the more I oppose the lynch, the more scummy I get, and the less I oppose the lynch, the more likely it is to go through.  What a great game, where I have no hope of living past D1.