It's reread time. I'm going to go back and re-read the 4 people with the most votes (so >1)
I think I'm going to try a theorel, and give scores based on how scummy they look to me. 0 being town, 10 being scum, 5 being null
(I apologize for lack of real quotes, I did this in a .txt file because that's easier to write in and I can save.)
Mcmc:-Fulfils Lio's wincon, says L-Street is best bar in town - 5
-He is against flavor claiming because his role and his flavor are connected. Votes arch for suggesting it - 3
-Promises a re-read, but his only thought seems to be that he thinks galz is scummy for speculating about his role - 6
-Understands Galz's argument, but he doesn't support it - 7
-States intent to vote nkirbit, but says galz is still also a good lynch - 5
-Votes nkirbit, states that no read is going to be great D1 - 5
-Last 2 posts apologizing for lurking. Which I can completely understand. -5
Thoughts on MCMC:
-When he posts against flavor claiming and votes arch, he says nothing of Lio, who he quoted as also supporting it (post #276) I find this a little strange since he was willing to put a vote down on arch for suggesting a flavor claim. Especially since maybe not all flavor is connected to the role/arch may not understand the connection because he doesn't know his flavor. Granted, all this is early in the game when you're trying to push people for reactions. Still seems a little odd to me
-On the reread: I can respect having RL stuff, but he never really comes out and says that's why he hasn't posted his reads. Unless he thinks his thoughts on Glaz count. I mean, I guess they do, just looks slight scum to me.
-Understanding the argument: He understands the argument, but he doesn't agree, so why is his vote still on Galz? does he still think Galz is scumy, even though he understands his argument? This post just seems a little strange to me. Unless I'm not understanding Galz's argument, he is suggesting he would be a pretty decent lynch option, but also a decent option to keep alive, so if MCMC's disagreeing, is he disagreeing with the keeping Galz alive part? Because at this point, his vote is still on galz.
-on nkirbit: These were my thoughts exactly when that was all going on. Nkirbit was being reckless and seemed like a good option just because someone who doesn't want to play or is frustrated with the game is a detriment to town. But at the same time, looking back he does appear to be frustrated town... The vote on Nkirbit still makes sense to me here, because lynching anti-town in a game this big is a better reason to lynch than RVS or reading too much into "slips".
Avg. Score:
5.143liopoil-Votes himself, fishing for his secondary wincon - 5
-Post #247 with jokes, more wincon fishing, then laying out some things for newbies (or are they warnings for newbie scum teammates?) - 7
-He starts the secondary wincon revealing - 6
-Asks mcmc what he wants for supporting him - 5
-Responding to sudgy's rvs self vote joke still - 5
-Supports mass flavor claim - 8
-Backtracks when Voltgloss calls for the claiming stop, points out names could easily be found with research - 6
-Anti-galz calim, thinks it comes from scum - 3
-Doesn't jump on the nkirbit slip wagon - 4
-Likes bocaJ's claim a lot - 5
-Doesn't think EFHW's case on MCMC is very good FoS's EFHW for it - 6
-Rest of his posts are getting a little frustrated and trying to defend himself - 4
Thoughts on lio:
-Post #247 has a lot of things for newbies, which is pretty good advice (don't quickhammer, don't claim VT) but those could also easily be warnings to hus scum teammates who may be new. This is mafia, I have to suspect everything, and not trust anyone. So, while this could just be a really nice gesture and actually helpful, I still give it scum cred.
-Lio starts the secondary wincon claiming with his claiming he wants someone to accuse him of being jester. After his warning to newbies, he kickstarts the claiming (as far as I remember. I'm just looking at lio posts and I'm not sure if anyone has claimed yet at this point, so for now, unless someone proves me wrong, he gets scum points for this).
-Flavor claiming: Generally, I would say claiming early is dumb. Even just flavor claiming. We don't know how important flavor is. It's eaither really distracting because it has nothing to do with the game, or it is super important becuase it outs PRs. Also, his backtrack looks to me like "whoops, sorry guys my big mistake. But now my scum buddies can see this information, so go look it up!" So lots of scum cred here
-Anti-galz claim: His arguments make sense, especially considering yuma in mean girls. It would be a pretty fantastic fake claim, which also happened in mean girls. So, I think lio is right to be suspicious. I am inclined to believe galz, but that's more gut feeling than anything. Town cred for lio
-Regarding nkirbit: It would have been an easy wagon to jump on as scum. He didn't. Slight town
-Regarding EFHW: I think EFHW's case is fine, especially for D1. We don't have a ton to go on and it is a fine case. Lio could be scum trying to make others outright discount EFHW's case. I re-read on my own, not remembering EFHW's case and came to similar conclusions (see above). So have some scum ponts.
Avg. Score:
5.333Alright, all that took longer than I expected, so I don't think I have time to go back and hit sudgy and nkirbit as in depth. However, I'm willing to give nkirbit a pass for today because I think his "slip" and frustration was town frustration and he is an easy one to jump on because of it. After this re-read though, I'm going to have to say that liopoil looks scummier to me now than sudgy did. So, that considered, I'm going to switch to a
Vote: liopoil. I also apologize for my lurkiness. I tend to be a lurky player anyways, especially D1, and moving to France has been different time wise. France is just cooler than home
PPE: I like my vote even more now since Lio basically said he doesn't want to throw a vote down until closer to the deadline. That feels sketchy to me. Why not just get your vote out there and get some reactions or something? Make a case on someone, not just jump on the wagon with the most votes/the one that will make you look the least suspicious near the end.
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