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[xeiron]

vote: liopoil
I'd say he's more likely to be scum than jester.

[sudgy]

Oy...  Lots of people...  Also, has anybody seen my pen?  I seem to have lost it somewhere...

Joking aside, I'll Vote: sudgy because he hasn't posted yet.  Hurry up!

so since you said joking aside, you too are seriously self-voting?

tempted to vote for you just because yuma can't. He wouldn't vote for me because I have a legitamit reason to self-vote.

Self voting is so obvious a joke at the beginning that it should have been obvious I was joking.  You seem to be more aggressive than I remember you being...  Vote: liopoil

[WalrusMcFishSr]

I'm going to go ahead and change to vote: Shraeye for now. He had a chance to respond and, well, to me it wasn't so convincing. His current attitude just doesn't smack of innocence.

Meanwhile 'aire has responded to the pressure on him with aplomb. Still wary, but I think Shraeye is the better vote for now. In any case it's still early and better options may present themselves.

Thanks for the general advice, lio, that was helpful for me at least. Neutral read right now but I do appreciate the strategy tips.

[ashersky]

Vote Count 1.5:

Voltaire (1): Galzria
WalrusMcFishSr (1): AHoppy
mail-mi (2): bocaJ, Dsell
liopoil (3): liopoil, xeiron, sudgy
Twisted (2): shraeye, Eevee
shraeye (2): mail-mi, Walrus
chairs (1): chairs

Not Voting (9): Robz888, Voltgloss, Twistedarcher, mcmcsalot, EFHW, Archetype, nkirbit, faust, voltaire

With 21 alive, it takes 11 to lynch.

Day 1 ends on September 23 at 9:22 p.m.

[Voltaire]

my vote had nothing to do with it being pretend you're ashersky day. I have a good reason to self-vote. what do you think it is? I'm dead serious though. Why has nobody else voted for me yet? this is unacceptable.

Tell me your good reason. I can't think of any roles where it's good for town to lynch town (based on the fact that this was described as not RMM) and so I don't see how you'd be "revealing" your role if this is the case. If you have one.

[Galzria]

my vote had nothing to do with it being pretend you're ashersky day. I have a good reason to self-vote. what do you think it is? I'm dead serious though. Why has nobody else voted for me yet? this is unacceptable.

Tell me your good reason. I can't think of any roles where it's good for town to lynch town (based on the fact that this was described as not RMM) and so I don't see how you'd be "revealing" your role if this is the case. If you have one.

Reasons could exist actually. This isn't RMM, but that doesn't mean there aren't interesting roles out there. It's a closed setup. So we honestly don't know.

[liopoil]

my vote had nothing to do with it being pretend you're ashersky day. I have a good reason to self-vote. what do you think it is? I'm dead serious though. Why has nobody else voted for me yet? this is unacceptable.

Tell me your good reason. I can't think of any roles where it's good for town to lynch town (based on the fact that this was described as not RMM) and so I don't see how you'd be "revealing" your role if this is the case. If you have one.

Okay, you know what I'll actually tell you.

I am town.

I have a secondary win condition. I get a secondary win if somebody accuses me of being a jester at any point during the game.

I think it's quite likely other players have a secondary wincon. So here's my offer:

If anyone accuses me of being a jester, and therefore giving me a secondary win, I will gladly fuffill their secondary wincon for them if possible (as long as I don't have to do something that hurts town to do it).

So, who wants to give me a secondary win? (nothing will actually happen if you do this, all that happens is that at the end of the game ash says, "oh btw, these players get a secondary win" and I get included in that list).

Also, Unvote, I don't actually want to be lynched

[mcmcsalot]

my vote had nothing to do with it being pretend you're ashersky day. I have a good reason to self-vote. what do you think it is? I'm dead serious though. Why has nobody else voted for me yet? this is unacceptable.

Tell me your good reason. I can't think of any roles where it's good for town to lynch town (based on the fact that this was described as not RMM) and so I don't see how you'd be "revealing" your role if this is the case. If you have one.

Okay, you know what I'll actually tell you.

I am town.

I have a secondary win condition. I get a secondary win if somebody accuses me of being a jester at any point during the game.

I think it's quite likely other players have a secondary wincon. So here's my offer:

If anyone accuses me of being a jester, and therefore giving me a secondary win, I will gladly fuffill their secondary wincon for them if possible (as long as I don't have to do something that hurts town to do it).

So, who wants to give me a secondary win? (nothing will actually happen if you do this, all that happens is that at the end of the game ash says, "oh btw, these players get a secondary win" and I get included in that list).

Also, Unvote, I don't actually want to be lynched

I'm going to go ahead and accuse: liopoil of being a jester

In case you are wondering L street is the best bar in town, clearly. It's classier than that stupid red door.

[sudgy]

I'm starting to think secondary win conditions is a theme for this game.  And I still can't find my pen...

[Voltaire]

I have a secondary win condition. I get a secondary win if somebody accuses me of being a jester at any point during the game.[/b]

That's what I was afraid of. I have a secondary win con as well. But I would vastly prefer it if the town played to their primary win-con. Y'know, lynching scum. kthnx.

[liopoil]

I have a secondary win condition. I get a secondary win if somebody accuses me of being a jester at any point during the game.[/b]

That's what I was afraid of. I have a secondary win con as well. But I would vastly prefer it if the town played to their primary win-con. Y'know, lynching scum. kthnx.

I agree, but I do not think this detracted from town winning. getting it out of the way now.

so, mcmc, what would you like me to say for you?

ummm, I agree, L street is the best bar in town?

[Twistedarcher]

You get a secondary win for THAT?

[liopoil]

You get a secondary win for THAT?

...yeah. What's so special about that? is everyone else's much harder to achieve?

[Twistedarcher]

You get a secondary win for THAT?

...yeah. What's so special about that? is everyone else's much harder to achieve?

I can't imagine it being any easier. If that's all it is, yours is something that detracts from no one in the game's win condition.

The fact that you just didn't come out and claim it makes it seem that there's something more going on.

[sudgy]

You get a secondary win for THAT?

...yeah. What's so special about that? is everyone else's much harder to achieve?

...yeah.  Does anybody know where my pen is?

[liopoil]

Oy...  Lots of people...  Also, has anybody seen my pen?  I seem to have lost it somewhere...

Joking aside, I'll Vote: sudgy because he hasn't posted yet.  Hurry up!

so since you said joking aside, you too are seriously self-voting?

tempted to vote for you just because yuma can't. He wouldn't vote for me because I have a legitamit reason to self-vote.

Self voting is so obvious a joke at the beginning that it should have been obvious I was joking.  You seem to be more aggressive than I remember you being...  Vote: liopoil

I would agree, except you said "Joking aside" which suggest you are setting jokes aside and saying something serious...

[Voltaire]

...yeah.  Does anybody know where my pen is?

Here, take mine.

(Note that I am only doing this because I have a guess that this is pro-town. Overall, I think shooting for our 2nd wincons is going to detract from the game. And scum most likely benefit from this sort of thing. But I've been researching Community and think something, so in this one instance...)

[liopoil]

You get a secondary win for THAT?

...yeah. What's so special about that? is everyone else's much harder to achieve?

I can't imagine it being any easier. If that's all it is, yours is something that detracts from no one in the game's win condition.

The fact that you just didn't come out and claim it makes it seem that there's something more going on.

I didn't do it right away because:

a) not sure it counts because well, mcmc obviously doesn't actually think I'm a jester.
b) I wasn't sure that anyone would be willing to do it.

and it appears that sudgy's doesn't require anything like that either. I think he probably just wants to be told where he could find his pen.

[WalrusMcFishSr]

ummm, I agree, L street is the best bar in town?

INCORRECT. RED DOOR IS FAR SUPERIOR.

THIS IS A STRONG PERSONAL BELIEF OF MINE WHICH IS IN NO WAY RELATED TO A SECONDARY OBJECTIVE.

[Twistedarcher]

ummm, I agree, L street is the best bar in town?

INCORRECT. RED DOOR IS FAR SUPERIOR.

THIS IS A STRONG PERSONAL BELIEF OF MINE WHICH IS IN NO WAY RELATED TO A SECONDARY OBJECTIVE.

Hipster

[mail-mi]

R u kidding? My secondary win con is so much harder! Ugh.

[Archetype]

Maybe we should mass flavor claim?

[liopoil]

Maybe we should mass flavor claim?

I'm fine with that. maybe also mass secondary wincon claim, and get them all done and over with, so we can focus on lynching some scum.

[sudgy]

Maybe we should mass flavor claim?

I'm fine with that. maybe also mass secondary wincon claim, and get them all done and over with, so we can focus on lynching some scum.

We might want to do that a later day, this one is short.

[sudgy]

...yeah.  Does anybody know where my pen is?

Here, take mine.

Wait, you have a pen?  Is it mine?