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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #2350 on: September 10, 2015, 08:36:53 am »
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I do like Mana Wyrm, but every time I open with him, he almost immediately dies to Frostbolt/Dark Bomb/Wrath/Fiery War Axe/etc.

Well, if your 1 mana card eats their 2 mana card, that's super good.
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #2351 on: September 10, 2015, 09:34:43 am »
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I do like Mana Wyrm, but every time I open with him, he almost immediately dies to Frostbolt/Dark Bomb/Wrath/Fiery War Axe/etc.

That's amazing value though.  Maybe not so much the Axe, but baiting out a 2 Mana spell is a good result.
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #2352 on: September 10, 2015, 09:36:09 am »
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Eating half a 2 mana card is far less goodness, obviously.  If two Mana Wyrms get eaten, you've yielded a 0 mana life tap.  It makes the Warrior matchup feel really coin flippy.
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #2353 on: September 10, 2015, 09:57:40 am »
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I've been eating Warriors alive with Mage. Not a bad matchup against Paladin, either. Terrible matchups against Priests and other Mages, however. The Shamans are pretty tough, I'd say it is a bad matchup for my Mage build. To answer the OP question; I feel like this season I am having to relearn HS all over again. I was at rank 4 two seasons ago, rank last season and I have struggled to hit rank 13 this season and have spent some time around 19.
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #2354 on: September 10, 2015, 09:59:26 am »
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I wasn't around for Undertaker, but I have experienced the new Secretkeeper version.  Two 5/6's on T3 are hard to deal with.
Secret Keeper can be nasty, but it's not nearly as bad. Undertaker would get buffed by cards you'd want to play anyway, like Leper Gnome, Webspinner, Haunted Creeper, and sometimes Nerubian Egg and Harvest Golem. For me, old Undertaker made those 1 mana deal 2 damage spells (Arcane Shot, Holy Smite) worth considering.
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #2355 on: September 10, 2015, 10:01:40 am »
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Yeah Undertaker got buffed when a minion hit the board, on curve, that was an answer to the current board state. Secret Keeper relies on a deck full of secrets which is an inherently weak deck unless properly coordinated with Mysterious Challenger.
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #2356 on: September 10, 2015, 10:02:53 am »
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I've been eating Warriors alive with Mage. Not a bad matchup against Paladin, either. Terrible matchups against Priests and other Mages, however. The Shamans are pretty tough, I'd say it is a bad matchup for my Mage build. To answer the OP question; I feel like this season I am having to relearn HS all over again. I was at rank 4 two seasons ago, rank last season and I have struggled to hit rank 13 this season and have spent some time around 19.
I'm stuck at Rank 8 it seems. I feel like the decks I want to play really need Harrison Jones to do well. I just crafted Ysera though, so it will take some time to get Harrison.

Oddly enough my best matchups are Secret Paladin. I don't see Secret Paladin enough to profit off them though.
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #2357 on: September 10, 2015, 11:23:14 am »
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I do like Mana Wyrm, but every time I open with him, he almost immediately dies to Frostbolt/Dark Bomb/Wrath/Fiery War Axe/etc.

Well, first 3 variants is uptrading...
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #2358 on: September 10, 2015, 02:53:05 pm »
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Ranked has gotten more competitive this last season. Sometimes I play with my super outdated decks (pre-BRM), and they used to give free wins because the competition was so bad. Now, I've actually seen semi-legit decks like Handlock at rank 17.

Well, as a mostly arena player, it doesn't affect me too much, but I'd like to have an easier time hitting rank 15 for the rewards.
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #2359 on: September 10, 2015, 03:44:53 pm »
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Probably because those other people also want the rewards..
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #2360 on: September 10, 2015, 07:43:56 pm »
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I've been eating Warriors alive with Mage. Not a bad matchup against Paladin, either. Terrible matchups against Priests and other Mages, however. The Shamans are pretty tough, I'd say it is a bad matchup for my Mage build. To answer the OP question; I feel like this season I am having to relearn HS all over again. I was at rank 4 two seasons ago, rank last season and I have struggled to hit rank 13 this season and have spent some time around 19.

This is the first season I've actually played constructed. I usually stick with Arena but I've just been getting destroyed by Paladin (I'll go between 5-3 & 8-3 usually, with about 80%+ of my losses coming from Paladins. I'm like 3-16 against them). I spent last Monday (My day off) just playing constructed and went from No rank at all to rank 12 before I started to stall a little bit. Even then, I feel like I'm winning an average of 3 for every 2 losses. It's just very streaky. I'll win 3, then lose 5, then win 3, lose 1, win 2, lose 1, win 3, etc. Still, I feel like many (if not most) of my losses come from just an inability to get any cards of value from my deck in the early game. It's not that they're not there... it's just that like, I can usually tell by the end of T1 if I'll win/lose, or if it'll be close. The game is decided by my opening hand more often than not.
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #2361 on: September 10, 2015, 11:33:45 pm »
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #2362 on: September 11, 2015, 09:55:58 am »
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Can you attack and screenshot again so I don't see 0-1-1-1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8? :(
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #2363 on: September 11, 2015, 11:46:55 am »
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You mean 0-1-1-1-2-3-1-4-25-5-2-6-7-8 ?
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #2364 on: September 11, 2015, 01:22:46 pm »
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You mean 0-1-1-1-2-3-1-4-25-5-2-6-7-8 ?
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #2365 on: September 13, 2015, 07:45:08 pm »
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Hmmm, is there a reason Cenarius isn't a battlecry minion? My guess is just that it's not to reduce card length. Just won a game because I was still able to play cenarius after my opponent's shredder popped out a Nerubian Weblord.
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #2366 on: September 13, 2015, 07:52:31 pm »
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Hmmm, is there a reason Cenarius isn't a battlecry minion? My guess is just that it's not to reduce card length. Just won a game because I was still able to play cenarius after my opponent's shredder popped out a Nerubian Weblord.

It's a "choose one" card. Like all "choose one" cards, they are not battecrys.
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #2367 on: September 13, 2015, 10:49:17 pm »
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Muster is the best Hearthstone card.  Discuss.
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #2368 on: September 13, 2015, 11:27:04 pm »
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Muster is the best Hearthstone card.  Discuss.
Hmm let's see...

3 Mana, equip a 1/4 weapon and summon 3/3 worth of stats across 3 miniona that is easy to follow up with buff cards(BoMight,BoKings,Quartermaster, etc.) and combos with Knife Juggler, so it never stops being relevant throughout the game. Useful in aggro, midrange, and control.

Also take into account that cheap AoE like Arcane Explosion is rarely used. Most cards that wipe Muster guys out costs more (like Swipe), requires setup (like Unstable Ghoul), or requires a card combo (like Pyromancer).

All this coming out as soon as Turn 3 or Turn 2 with coin.

Yeah. Looks like the best 3 drop to me.

Best card? Maybe. I mean, it looks like an auto include in every class if they had access to it.
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #2369 on: September 13, 2015, 11:30:38 pm »
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Like closed beta hunter, the class was really really bad, so they tried to give the class one really, really strong card to fix that. 
I think it feels really swingy the difference in power level between turn 3 muster paladins and turn 3 I-mulled-everything-and-still-didn't-see-mah-muster paladins.
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #2370 on: September 13, 2015, 11:30:53 pm »
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I run a copy of Wild Pyromancer in my Dragon Priest deck. Pyro + SW:Pain on Knife Juggler and wiping out all tokens is classic. Pyromancer still dies go Light's Justice next turn if I don't have a taunt up.
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #2371 on: September 13, 2015, 11:33:28 pm »
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Like closed beta hunter, the class was really really bad, so they tried to give the class one really, really strong card to fix that. 
I think it feels really swingy the difference in power level between turn 3 muster paladins and turn 3 I-mulled-everything-and-still-didn't-see-mah-muster paladins.
It's unlikely that a Paladin doesn't have either Muster or Mini-bot in their opening hand. At least Aldor is playable on Turn 3, but not all Paladin decks run that, especially not the aggro ones.
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #2372 on: September 13, 2015, 11:38:27 pm »
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I'm saying that muster openings are way stronger than openings with mere shielded minibot, even though minibot is a great card.  It's just not a 3 mana 4/4 with extra utility.
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #2373 on: September 14, 2015, 12:25:21 am »
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I'm saying that muster openings are way stronger than openings with mere shielded minibot, even though minibot is a great card.  It's just not a 3 mana 4/4 with extra utility.
Are you also saying that a muster opening without shielded minibot is way stronger than a minibot opening without muster? Because I'll agree to that. Of course having both is an incredible opening that forces the other player on the defensive, and some decks are not designed to play defensively very well.
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #2374 on: September 14, 2015, 01:39:36 am »
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Yeah that's what I was saying.
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