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[AHoppy]

Has anyone talked about the Leeroy nerf and the Buzzard nerf yet?

[KingZog3]

Has anyone talked about the Leeroy nerf and the Buzzard nerf yet?

Leeroy nerf seems fine, Buzzard nerf seems like a lot, but hey, maybe it'll be ok. I don't own leeroy, but man I have to say to see him in so many decks and he's really killer at 4mana. I think he'll still be ina lot of decks at 5 mana, but just a lot fewer than we have now. He'll be more of an aggro card.

[AHoppy]

will it kill mircale rogue?

[Grujah]

will it kill mircale rogue?

They cant do triple Leeroy anymore, but it is not a top deck anymore anyway.

[KingZog3]

Miracle will be weaker, but they still have Edwin. My guess is the decks will change to more minion based, with Leeroy as a finisher rather than a 30 damage killing machine.

[Titandrake]

Miracle will be weaker, but they still have Edwin. My guess is the decks will change to more minion based, with Leeroy as a finisher rather than a 30 damage killing machine.

There's a Malygos Miracle variant as well. The dream of Malygos + Sinister Strike + Prep + (damage spell, probably Evis) is 17 from the hand + guaranteed win if Malygos lives. Or, Malygos + Prep + Fan to clear the board. Less burst, but still decent, requires more mana to set-up though.

[ycz6]

I prefer the Mana Addict-based Miracle Rogue decks. They just look so absurd when you pull them off.

[pingpongsam]

They just look so absurd when you pull them off.

Out of context thread material.

[ashersky]

So I decided after many months to buy packs for once.  I went with 7 for 10 bucks, and I'm basically treating it as a donation to a game I enjoy.

Here are my rewards (* means first copy, ** means second copy):

Pack 1:
Abusive Sergeant
Keeper of the Grove
Temple Enforcer
Flare**
Harvest Golem

Pack 2:
Leper Gnome
Stormforged Axe
Tauren Warrior
Vaporize*
Patient Assassin**

Pack 3:
Mass Dispel**
Ironbeak Owl
Dire Wolf Alpha
Argent Squire
Noble Sacrifice

Pack 4:
Blessing of Wisdom
Mad Bomber
Misdirection*
Inner Fire
Mogu'shan Warden*

Pack 5:
Demonfire (Golden)*
Doomhammer**
Argent Squire
Explosive Shot*
Defias Ringleader

Pack 6:
Repentance
Worgen Infiltrator
Eviscerate**
Venture Co. Mercenary
Ethereal Arcanist

Pack 7:
Upgrade (Golden)*
Summoning Portal
Venture Co. Mercenary
Redemption
Southsea Deckhand

I got a total of 150 dust from those seven packs, and ten cards added to the collection.  (Note, I had two of the non-golden versions of both golden cards, but I am a crazy completionist who can't dust them.)

[Jorbles]

Would you ever run 2 Doomhammers? Having the opportunity seems like it might be worth trying it out.

[ashersky]

Would you ever run 2 Doomhammers? Having the opportunity seems like it might be worth trying it out.

I don't know.  It takes a minimum of 4 turns to use up a Doomhammer.  At best, that's T3 (with coin) and T6, right?  I guess it could work.  I don't currently have a working shaman deck.  I could try to build one around them.

The most annoying thing about that set of packs was that none of my epics was new to me.  Vaporize could be cool -- I'll add it to my secret mage and see what happens.  I got a few nice Hunter cards, but I don't use Hunter.

[ashersky]

Flare**
Vaporize*
Patient Assassin**
Mass Dispel**
Misdirection*
Mogu'shan Warden*
Doomhammer**
Explosive Shot*
Eviscerate**


That's all the cards added to my collection from opening seven packs.  When you look at it like this...not so impressive.

[ashersky]

So...continuing this, I got curious as to what I was actually missing, and what it'll take to collect all the cards.  (Obviously the legendaries are basically impossible, but the rest...maybe).  Here's what I figured out:

Totals for cards I still need:

--1 common class card (1 copy of Snipe) and I will have all class commons (Total dust cost: 40)
--26 rare class cards (37 copies) for all class rares (Total dust cost: 100 x 27 = 3700)
--23 epic class cards (33 copies) for all class epics (Total dust cost: 400 x 33 = 13200)
--8 legendary class cards (8 copies) for all class legendaries (Total dust cost: 1600 x 8 = 12800)

To craft all needed class cards: 29740

--4 common neutral cards (5 copies) and I will have all neutral commons (Total dust cost: 40 x 5 = 200)
--12 rare neutral cards (17 copies) and I will have all neutral rares (Total dust cost: 100 x 17 = 1700)
--9 epic neutral cards (13 copies) and I will have all neutral epics (Total dust cost: 400 x 13 = 5200)
--23 legendary neutral cards (23 copies) and I will have all neutral lengendaries (Total dust cost: 1600 x23 = 36800)

To craft all needed class cards: 43900

So...that's a lot of dust.  I'm really tempted to craft the final six commons just to have them, and then I never ever have to think about the commons in the packs I open.  I was surprised I was so close on rare/epic neutrals, but maybe there just aren't that many.

[KingZog3]

Well there aren't that any epics, and many are not good anyway. And you always get a rare. So you get them pretty fast.

[Jorbles]

If you're completionist (I suspect you might be) it is better to save for Legendaries/Epics than it is to save for Commons or Rares. I'd only craft the unmade Commons/Rares if you needed them for a deck. (and otherwise just ignore them entirely)

[pingpongsam]

The true completionist needs 2 of every card and 2 of every card again in Gold. The hardcore seek golden naxxramas cards.

[pingpongsam]

the rule of 2s need not apply to the Legendaries since there is no possibility of ever placing more than 1 in a deck.

[ashersky]

If you're completionist (I suspect you might be) it is better to save for Legendaries/Epics than it is to save for Commons or Rares. I'd only craft the unmade Commons/Rares if you needed them for a deck. (and otherwise just ignore them entirely)

I generally agree, except I'm the type of completionist who's also a sub-completionist, where I seek to complete subsets within sets.

So "all class commons" screams to be completed.

The true completionist needs 2 of every card and 2 of every card again in Gold. The hardcore seek golden naxxramas cards.

That's after all normal cards.  I've yet yo dust any goldens.

[KingZog3]

Why not complete every set of 2? Then you'll get that buzz all the time!

[Titandrake]

According to compiled pack statistics, if you dust your extra cards it takes 450-550 packs to get a full collection, so yeesh.

Also, I opened a Murloc Warleader recently, and now I have the Murloc legendary.

[popsofctown]

Would you ever run 2 Doomhammers? Having the opportunity seems like it might be worth trying it out.

It's never going to appear in a netdeck, but I don't think it's that bad to try out.  Shaman has a high value hero power so they shouldn't mind the dead card too bad if they draw two.


A nifty thing about having two is that you can hoard rockbiters in hand with a realistic expectation that you'll get to play them for six.  In a normal shaman deck with just one Doomhammer you play the rockbiter to kill something unimportant and then topdeck the Doomhammer afterward and you're like, oh, well I couldn't have expected that to happen.


Wild Pyro + Spiteful Smith might be cool for the deck

[Jorbles]

Would you ever run 2 Doomhammers? Having the opportunity seems like it might be worth trying it out.

It's never going to appear in a netdeck, but I don't think it's that bad to try out.  Shaman has a high value hero power so they shouldn't mind the dead card too bad if they draw two.


A nifty thing about having two is that you can hoard rockbiters in hand with a realistic expectation that you'll get to play them for six.  In a normal shaman deck with just one Doomhammer you play the rockbiter to kill something unimportant and then topdeck the Doomhammer afterward and you're like, oh, well I couldn't have expected that to happen.


Wild Pyro + Spiteful Smith might be cool for the deck

I agree with all of this, Unstable Ghouls might not be out place here either.

[Ichimaru Gin]

Just opened a Harrison Jones, my second legendary to date.

I'm wondering what sort of decks it would be best in though. It's definitely situational, given that some classes lack weapons, but it's awesome when you can take out a weapon and get card draw for it. So do you guys run it in any of your decks, and if so which ones?

[Jorbles]

I don't have it, but if I did I'd run it situationally based on the meta. When weapon classes are popular I'd sub out an Azure (or something similar) for it. It's not the sort of card I'd build a deck around.

[Ichimaru Gin]

I don't have it, but if I did I'd run it situationally based on the meta. When weapon classes are popular I'd sub out an Azure (or something similar) for it. It's not the sort of card I'd build a deck around.

Seems like a fair point. So far, the legendarys I've gotten have been pretty mediocre. But it's unfortunate because they're still "legendary" even though I haven't found them to be terribly useful so far. I think I'll keep this one around for the reasons you mention, but yeah there's better cards to fill its spot in most cases.