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[HiveMindEmulator]

To be fair, the meta has adapted to Alex.  She is the reason why those decks are required to run 15+ burst.  If your opponent's deck can't actually burst for that much she is still just as powerful as she was before.

I don't recall a meta where she was ever used primarily for the heal. If anything, the big burst shift in the meta was a reaction to Molten Giant. You want to kill without allowing your opponent to get in range of free giants.

[Grujah]

And that's exactly when she is so good in Freezemage, cuz next turn you can 2x Firebolt + Frostbolt, or Thalanos + Frostbolt + 2x Ice Lance + Ping or something like that for the win. Works even better if you started the turn with live Ice Block.

(This was in respons to blueblimp).

[KingZog3]

Yarrr! Captain Greenskin has joined me collection o' cards!

[markusin]

I finally got my first legendary: Prophet Velen.

[KingZog3]

I finally got my first legendary: Prophet Velen.

He's pretty good I don't have him, but Velen +Mindblast = a Pyroblast for 9 mana

[HiveMindEmulator]

I finally got my first legendary: Prophet Velen.

He's pretty good I don't have him, but Velen +Mindblast = a Pyroblast for 9 mana

10 damage for 9 mana and 2 cards isn't that great. The value of Pyroblast is that it's a lot of damage for 1 card. With 2 cards, you can do 10 damage much cheaper. For example, 2x Mind Blast. Velen is very playable because he has the versatility of being used with Mind Blast, Smite, and/or hero power, and then leaves a very imposing body behind (threatening not only 7 damage, but real value Holy Fires or Holy Novas), but it's definitely not in the top 10-15 legendaries you'd want. Still, I find it to be lots of fun.

[ashersky]

Opted to buy packs instead of arena runs today...not too bad.

Got Gorehowl and Gladiator's Longbow, plus an Abomination.  Only dusted 9/20, only one Rare was a 3rd.

[KingZog3]

Opted to buy packs instead of arena runs today...not too bad.

Got Gorehowl and Gladiator's Longbow, plus an Abomination.  Only dusted 9/20, only one Rare was a 3rd.

I've been doing that for about a week now. While my arena runs are cost effective, I'd rather be playing more constructed. I got captain greenskin, otherwise mostly dust.

[Grujah]

Yeah, I've been doing that since page 36.

[KingZog3]

Yeah, I've been doing that since page 36.

I can't measure time in units of pages. There is too much work involved in converting it.

[nkirbit]

http://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/blog/14601010/curse-of-naxxramas%E2%84%A2-wing-entry-details-and-heroic-mode-7-8-2014

[blueblimp]

http://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/blog/14601010/curse-of-naxxramas%E2%84%A2-wing-entry-details-and-heroic-mode-7-8-2014

Summary: One free wing. Other four wings are 700 gold or $7 each. All four wings together cost 2800 gold (no discount) or $20 (a discount). (The free wing is only free for the first month.)

[HiveMindEmulator]

The gold per $ ratio is nearly double that for buying packs. $20 gets you 1500 gold of packs or 2800 gold of adventures. I guess the goal is to convince more people to buy this with real money by inflating the in-game gold prices?

[ashersky]

I will just spend 20 bucks.  Good deal, I think.

[Twistedarcher]

I will just spend 20 bucks.  Good deal, I think.

Me too, and I'm happy to pay Blizzard for the entertainment they've provided me anyways.

[KingZog3]

I will just spend 20 bucks.  Good deal, I think.

Me too, and I'm happy to pay Blizzard for the entertainment they've provided me anyways.

700gp per wing is still not super expensive. I'll probably just save a weeks worth of gold (and start saving now too) and I'll be able to purchase the wings.

[Grujah]

Revisiting the question I asked a while ago about which Hearthstone cards couldn't be done in Magic, turns out that somebody re-did all Hearthstone cards as Magic cards. That demonstrates which mechanics can't carry over.

An interesting one is positioning. For example, Defender of Argus. Magic doesn't have that concept.

I've come to appreciate the depth of positioning more since playing a lot of zoo. I argue that zoo must think the most about positioning of any constructed deck, for two reasons:

• It runs Dire Wolf Alpha and Defender of Argus, which both have usefulness that depends on your minion positioning.
• Zoo intends to enter topdeck mode quickly in order to play Soulfires and Doomguards without discarding cards, so you often can't plan your positioning based on what you have in hand.

As an example of a consideration for zoo positioning, you'll typically want to buff minions that are about to trade. That makes you want to clump your trade-friendly minions (such as Scarlet Crusader) together, as opposed to your more support-oriented minions (such as Knife Juggler).

Another example: if you have duplicate minions, you want to allow more possibilities for buffs. For instance, Crusader-Golem-Golem is arguably better positioning than Golem-Crusader-Golem, because in the former case you have the option of buffing either both Golems or the Crusader and a Golem, while in the latter case you can't choose to buff both Golems. On the other hand, if you play a Wolf and your Crusader has already lost its shield, then the latter positioning is better because you can trade off the Crusader and then the damage buff transfers to the Golem.

I've been playing Zoo lately.

I have to freaking agree to this.

I'd add a bullet to your list:
You really need to think about what is going to be killed most likely and what is new positioning going to be based on that. It's a nightmare.

[Jorbles]

I will just spend 20 bucks.  Good deal, I think.

Me too, and I'm happy to pay Blizzard for the entertainment they've provided me anyways.

700gp per wing is still not super expensive. I'll probably just save a weeks worth of gold (and start saving now too) and I'll be able to purchase the wings.

Yeah I'm starting to save gold, but I might buy a wing or two.

[KingZog3]

I will just spend 20 bucks.  Good deal, I think.

Me too, and I'm happy to pay Blizzard for the entertainment they've provided me anyways.

700gp per wing is still not super expensive. I'll probably just save a weeks worth of gold (and start saving now too) and I'll be able to purchase the wings.

Yeah I'm starting to save gold, but I might buy a wing or two.

Real money will buy candy that will power my hearthstone skill to earn in game gold

[markusin]

I will just spend 20 bucks.  Good deal, I think.

Me too, and I'm happy to pay Blizzard for the entertainment they've provided me anyways.

700gp per wing is still not super expensive. I'll probably just save a weeks worth of gold (and start saving now too) and I'll be able to purchase the wings.

Yeah I'm starting to save gold, but I might buy a wing or two.

Real money will buy candy that will power my hearthstone skill to earn in game gold

700 gold is almost 2 weeks worth of quests though. 40gold + 10gold for 3 wins a day leads to 50 gold a day. Sometimes, you get 60 gold quests, but it's still not a very fast rate to earn 2800 gold for 4 wings.

[HiveMindEmulator]

700 gold is almost 2 weeks worth of quests though. 40gold + 10gold for 3 wins a day leads to 50 gold a day. Sometimes, you get 60 gold quests, but it's still not a very fast rate to earn 2800 gold for 4 wings.

It depends on if you bank your quests or take them right away. Ideally, you take the 60s right away, reject the 40s, and avoid completing them until you get another 60 and can use that day's reject on an old 40. I feel like this way, I get almost as many 60s as 40s. Basically you get to complete 7 out of 14 offered quests, and ~3 of those should be for 60 gold.
It's also possible that by doing the wings you complete some Naxx-specific quests (like the initial ones when you started playing the game), which gives more gold. I think if you play a lot (like you're able to complete all your quests), it shouldn't take more than 2-3 extra weeks of saving to play Naxx on game gold.

[markusin]

700 gold is almost 2 weeks worth of quests though. 40gold + 10gold for 3 wins a day leads to 50 gold a day. Sometimes, you get 60 gold quests, but it's still not a very fast rate to earn 2800 gold for 4 wings.

It depends on if you bank your quests or take them right away. Ideally, you take the 60s right away, reject the 40s, and avoid completing them until you get another 60 and can use that day's reject on an old 40. I feel like this way, I get almost as many 60s as 40s. Basically you get to complete 7 out of 14 offered quests, and ~3 of those should be for 60 gold.
It's also possible that by doing the wings you complete some Naxx-specific quests (like the initial ones when you started playing the game), which gives more gold. I think if you play a lot (like you're able to complete all your quests), it shouldn't take more than 2-3 extra weeks of saving to play Naxx on game gold.

If there is some sort of gold reward for completing the wings, then it would be straightforward to save the gold. There hasn't been any mention of reward gold for completing wings though.

So wait, you get one reject per day and not per quest? Does that mean I can reject the same quest slot more than once across different days?

[KingZog3]

700 gold is almost 2 weeks worth of quests though. 40gold + 10gold for 3 wins a day leads to 50 gold a day. Sometimes, you get 60 gold quests, but it's still not a very fast rate to earn 2800 gold for 4 wings.

It depends on if you bank your quests or take them right away. Ideally, you take the 60s right away, reject the 40s, and avoid completing them until you get another 60 and can use that day's reject on an old 40. I feel like this way, I get almost as many 60s as 40s. Basically you get to complete 7 out of 14 offered quests, and ~3 of those should be for 60 gold.
It's also possible that by doing the wings you complete some Naxx-specific quests (like the initial ones when you started playing the game), which gives more gold. I think if you play a lot (like you're able to complete all your quests), it shouldn't take more than 2-3 extra weeks of saving to play Naxx on game gold.

If there is some sort of gold reward for completing the wings, then it would be straightforward to save the gold. There hasn't been any mention of reward gold for completing wings though.

So wait, you get one reject per day and not per quest? Does that mean I can reject the same quest slot more than once across different days?

The rewards for the wings are cards. And yes, the reject is per day, not per quest.

[HiveMindEmulator]

If there is some sort of gold reward for completing the wings, then it would be straightforward to save the gold. There hasn't been any mention of reward gold for completing wings though.

Maybe not for completing the wings, but there might be "hidden" quests or something...

[ashersky]

To be fair, the meta has adapted to Alex.  She is the reason why those decks are required to run 15+ burst.  If your opponent's deck can't actually burst for that much she is still just as powerful as she was before.

I don't recall a meta where she was ever used primarily for the heal. If anything, the big burst shift in the meta was a reaction to Molten Giant. You want to kill without allowing your opponent to get in range of free giants.

To follow up on Alex discussion...

She's definitely pretty game changing, but in my limited experience with her, I find that I'm often sitting on her in hand for multiple turns even when I have enough mana to play her because the HP numbers don't make sense.  Like, I'm not going to blast the opponent down from 19 to 15 when I'm sitting at 17.

SW: Death is the worst, and I always know it's coming from the Priest.  I try to toss out some early 5/6 attack minions to draw those spells.  BGH also sucks.