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[Grujah]

Definitely not Pagle.

Geddon seems to have better presence, I'd go with that.

[Kirian]

They need a Bullshit emote for me to spam after some of my recent games.

I just went up against a Priest who played 1: Shieldbearer, 2: PW:S, PW:S, Coin, Inner Fire... for an 8/8 Taunt on round 2.

As a separate bullshit thing though, a question:  after hitting for some damage, on T4 I hit this monstrosity with a Spellbreaker, turning it from 8/3... to 0/4.  Why did it gain health upon being silenced?

[Grujah]

They need a Bullshit emote for me to spam after some of my recent games.

I just went up against a Priest who played 1: Shieldbearer, 2: PW:S, PW:S, Coin, Inner Fire... for an 8/8 Taunt on round 2.

As a separate bullshit thing though, a question:  after hitting for some damage, on T4 I hit this monstrosity with a Spellbreaker, turning it from 8/3... to 0/4.  Why did it gain health upon being silenced?

Meh, I'd expect 8/5 -> 0/4, and 8/3 -> 0/3, but, I guess if something had changed P/T before you silence it, it just gets changed go original P/T.

[ycz6]

I just played Coin > Wild Growth > Innervate > Wild Growth for the first time and it felt good

Got the turn 2 Yeti, too

[Grujah]

Me (Weenie Paladin) Him Shaman

T1: He - Nothing, Me: Coin -> Faerie
T2: He - Gain 3 attack, kill Faerie, Me - Knife Juggler
T3: He - Spirit Wolves Me: Knight Juggler, Young Priestess, all 3 knives go to same wolf, slam juggler into other wolf.
T4: He - RAGEQUIT!


 

[ashersky]

I just played Coin > Wild Growth > Innervate > Wild Growth for the first time and it felt good

Got the turn 2 Yeti, too

Coin > Innervate > Yeti T1 is fun, too.

[KingZog3]

They need a Bullshit emote for me to spam after some of my recent games.

I just went up against a Priest who played 1: Shieldbearer, 2: PW:S, PW:S, Coin, Inner Fire... for an 8/8 Taunt on round 2.

As a separate bullshit thing though, a question:  after hitting for some damage, on T4 I hit this monstrosity with a Spellbreaker, turning it from 8/3... to 0/4.  Why did it gain health upon being silenced?

Meh, I'd expect 8/5 -> 0/4, and 8/3 -> 0/3, but, I guess if something had changed P/T before you silence it, it just gets changed go original P/T.

I believe the rules go as such:

If a buffed minion is silenced or loses buff. Health stays the same or goes to the highest possible number. So 4 is the highest it could go non buffed. You can never kill a minion by silencing it.

[ycz6]

I just played Coin > Wild Growth > Innervate > Wild Growth for the first time and it felt good

Got the turn 2 Yeti, too

Coin > Innervate > Yeti T1 is fun, too.

Yeah I had the Yeti in hand turn 1 and considered it, but figured I could wait a turn.

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While I was typing this post I opened a Gruul

[shraeye]

Not Gruul? Then die!

[Grujah]

Not Gruul? Then die!

Meat AND eggs. We eat!

[theory]

Not Gruul? Then die!

Meat AND eggs. We eat!

Ha, disguised toast!

[Grujah]

Not Gruul? Then die!

Meat AND eggs. We eat!

Ha, disguised toast!

[ashersky]

For Ashersky:
http://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveHS/comments/299hzn/a_couple_of_decks_to_try_out_if_youre_getting/

It's someone talking about a control Hunter deck that uses King Krush! (...and 5 other legendaries...)

My KK deck is a poor man's version of that, but uses the buzzard/uth combo.  I do have 2x epic pirate, but no parrot.  Maybe I can make it work.

Here's his decklist:

Hunter:
 
Arcane Shot × 2   
Flare × 2   
Tracking × 2   
Explosive Trap × 2   
Freezing Trap × 2
Misdirection × 2   
Snipe × 2   
Deadly Shot × 1   
Eaglehorn Bow × 2   
Gladiator's Longbow × 1   
King Krush × 1   

Neutral Cards:

Bloodmage Thalnos × 1   
Captain's Parrot × 1   
Earthen Ring Farseer × 2      
Dread Corsair × 2      
Azure Drake × 1   
Captain Greenskin × 1   
The Black Knight × 1   
Ragnaros the Firelord × 1   
Alexstrasza × 1   


The bolded cards are ones I'd need to replace with stuff.  Could I get away with a Sea Giant and a Faceless in place of the big epics?  He calls it a Pirate deck, but hen's not really using a lot of pirates...I have two copies of the epic pirate that gives all pirates 1/1, so maybe I could just slot in a few more pirates in place of the missing cards?

[Titandrake]

For Ashersky:
http://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveHS/comments/299hzn/a_couple_of_decks_to_try_out_if_youre_getting/

It's someone talking about a control Hunter deck that uses King Krush! (...and 5 other legendaries...)

My KK deck is a poor man's version of that, but uses the buzzard/uth combo.  I do have 2x epic pirate, but no parrot.  Maybe I can make it work.

Here's his decklist:

Hunter:
 
Arcane Shot × 2   
Flare × 2   
Tracking × 2   
Explosive Trap × 2   
Freezing Trap × 2
Misdirection × 2   
Snipe × 2   
Deadly Shot × 1   
Eaglehorn Bow × 2   
Gladiator's Longbow × 1   
King Krush × 1   

Neutral Cards:

Bloodmage Thalnos × 1   
Captain's Parrot × 1   
Earthen Ring Farseer × 2      
Dread Corsair × 2      
Azure Drake × 1   
Captain Greenskin × 1   
The Black Knight × 1   
Ragnaros the Firelord × 1   
Alexstrasza × 1   


The bolded cards are ones I'd need to replace with stuff.  Could I get away with a Sea Giant and a Faceless in place of the big epics?  He calls it a Pirate deck, but hen's not really using a lot of pirates...I have two copies of the epic pirate that gives all pirates 1/1, so maybe I could just slot in a few more pirates in place of the missing cards?

He's not using many Pirates because he only wants the specific Pirates in the deck from Captain's Parrot. Dread Corsair + Eaglehorn is nice. Greenskin + Eaglehorn is nice. Adding other pirates makes the deck worse, since most other pirates are awful.

Without Captain's Parrot (which requires getting every other Pirate in the game), you'd probably want to only have Dread Corsair. I think you need some of the traps you don't have to fit the Eaglehorn Bow theme.

[Grujah]

Well, you don't need THAT many traps to have bow reliably, he is overdoing it a bit.
Some hunter removal can replace traps. Another Deadly shot, maybe 1 Split Shot. People do not expect split shot nowadays. You can put a Arcane shot in maybe as well, but.. uh. Thing about snipe is that is delays rogue from playing Auctioneer, if you dont have problem with them, you can do without it.

Probably loot hoarder instead of Flare/Thalnos and Kobold instead of Thalnos.
Maybe second drake instead of Greenskin? Or some value creature.

Some other value creature instead of TBK. Like, Savanah Highmane or Argent Commander or Big Game Hunter or .. Well, Kodo if nothing else.
Faceless instead of Rag is ok. So is another Savanah. Ogre is the most budget-y option.
Alextrasza is hard to replace. uh.. anything already mentioned I guess, maybe Argent, it is most burst-y.

[ashersky]

Well, you don't need THAT many traps to have bow reliably, he is overdoing it a bit.
Some hunter removal can replace traps. Another Deadly shot, maybe 1 Split Shot. People do not expect split shot nowadays. You can put a Arcane shot in maybe as well, but.. uh. Thing about snipe is that is delays rogue from playing Auctioneer, if you dont have problem with them, you can do without it.

Probably loot hoarder instead of Flare/Thalnos and Kobold instead of Thalnos.
Maybe second drake instead of Greenskin? Or some value creature.

Some other value creature instead of TBK. Like, Savanah Highmane or Argent Commander or Big Game Hunter or .. Well, Kodo if nothing else.
Faceless instead of Rag is ok. So is another Savanah. Ogre is the most budget-y option.
Alextrasza is hard to replace. uh.. anything already mentioned I guess, maybe Argent, it is most burst-y.

Thanks, this is great.

I'm sad there's still no use for double epic pirate dude.

[Jorbles]

I agree with Grujah on what he said.

Could use an Explosive Shot as a replacement for the Gladiator's Longbow. It's not as versatile (it only hits minions) but it does 5 damage without your hero taking any for 5 mana instead of 7. (And it has some splash damage which can be situationally better than the Longbow). It's not the best, but it is a budget replacement, and the Longbow is probably used to deal damage to a minion the first hit 9 times out of 10 anyways.

Edit: It doesn't combo with the Corsair either, but there aren't any other Hunter weapons.

[Lekkit]

You don't take any damage while attacking with a Gladiator's Longbow.

[HiveMindEmulator]

Well, you don't need THAT many traps to have bow reliably, he is overdoing it a bit.
Some hunter removal can replace traps. Another Deadly shot, maybe 1 Split Shot. People do not expect split shot nowadays. You can put a Arcane shot in maybe as well, but.. uh. Thing about snipe is that is delays rogue from playing Auctioneer, if you dont have problem with them, you can do without it.

Probably loot hoarder instead of Flare/Thalnos and Kobold instead of Thalnos.
Maybe second drake instead of Greenskin? Or some value creature.

Some other value creature instead of TBK. Like, Savanah Highmane or Argent Commander or Big Game Hunter or .. Well, Kodo if nothing else.
Faceless instead of Rag is ok. So is another Savanah. Ogre is the most budget-y option.
Alextrasza is hard to replace. uh.. anything already mentioned I guess, maybe Argent, it is most burst-y.

Pretty much this. The main thing I wanted to add is that it's not really about replacing individual cards when you're missing that much of the deck. What you want to think about is replicating the parts of the deck that you can and adding in useful stuff. The main idea of this deck is to control with traps and bow and then to win with legendaries. The Corsairs and Greenskin are there because of the bow focus, but they're not that important, imo. It looks a lot like beta UTH decks (before the rework). So you want to use bow, as many traps as you can, cheap cantrips to help draw bow, other removal, and a way to win.

I think the main card(s) that Grujah didn't mention are Venture Co Merc, Tiger, and Pyromancer. Merc is neat because you don't rely that much on playing minions, so if you can play one turn 5, and defend it with traps and bow, you can get in for a lot of damage. If they spend direct removal on it, that's something they can't use for King Krush later. Tiger is also a decent late game card. And Pyromancer helps with aggressive decks, given that you have enough spells. Hunter's mark is a good combo with Pyro as well.

[ashersky]

Well, you don't need THAT many traps to have bow reliably, he is overdoing it a bit.
Some hunter removal can replace traps. Another Deadly shot, maybe 1 Split Shot. People do not expect split shot nowadays. You can put a Arcane shot in maybe as well, but.. uh. Thing about snipe is that is delays rogue from playing Auctioneer, if you dont have problem with them, you can do without it.

Probably loot hoarder instead of Flare/Thalnos and Kobold instead of Thalnos.
Maybe second drake instead of Greenskin? Or some value creature.

Some other value creature instead of TBK. Like, Savanah Highmane or Argent Commander or Big Game Hunter or .. Well, Kodo if nothing else.
Faceless instead of Rag is ok. So is another Savanah. Ogre is the most budget-y option.
Alextrasza is hard to replace. uh.. anything already mentioned I guess, maybe Argent, it is most burst-y.

Pretty much this. The main thing I wanted to add is that it's not really about replacing individual cards when you're missing that much of the deck. What you want to think about is replicating the parts of the deck that you can and adding in useful stuff. The main idea of this deck is to control with traps and bow and then to win with legendaries. The Corsairs and Greenskin are there because of the bow focus, but they're not that important, imo. It looks a lot like beta UTH decks (before the rework). So you want to use bow, as many traps as you can, cheap cantrips to help draw bow, other removal, and a way to win.

I think the main card(s) that Grujah didn't mention are Venture Co Merc, Tiger, and Pyromancer. Merc is neat because you don't rely that much on playing minions, so if you can play one turn 5, and defend it with traps and bow, you can get in for a lot of damage. If they spend direct removal on it, that's something they can't use for King Krush later. Tiger is also a decent late game card. And Pyromancer helps with aggressive decks, given that you have enough spells. Hunter's mark is a good combo with Pyro as well.

Thanks.

Here's where I've ended up (in trying the Control Hunter w/o UTH Deck):

Arcane Shot x2
Flare
Tracking x2
Explosive Trap x2
Freezing Trap
Acidic Swamp Ooze
Kobold Geomancer
Loot Hoarder x2
Novice Engineer x2
Wild Pyromancer
Eaglehorn Bow x2
Animal Companion
Deadly Shot
Demolisher x2
Earthen Ring Farseer
Multi-Shot x2
Azure Drake
Venture Co. Mercenary x2
Savannah Highmane
King Krush
Sea Giant

I'm not convinced I need 2 Trackings, given I don't have as many traps as this deck needs, plus I have the card drawing minions there.  Animal Companion is there for some flexibility, but it's probably better off as a Tazdingo...I for some reason have no Corsairs, so I just left that whole thing behind.

Basically, I don't have the cards to build a trap control deck at this time.  My Buzzard/UTH deck is probably better, with KK as a lucky finisher on occasion.

[HiveMindEmulator]

^Sea Giant isn't going to be that good, since you're not playing a lot of minions. If you have to pay 8+ mana for it, it's not better than Ogre. Multi-shot really isn't a 2x card, because a lot of decks won't have multiple minions out for you to hit (assuming you're focusing on removing things as fast as possible). Demo is also kind of questionable just in general because it doesn't trade well if you don't have board control. It's better suited to a tempo deck, where it's protected by the other stuff. Here you want to focus on keeping the board under control with your cheap stuff and then winning with your big minions.

[ashersky]

^Sea Giant isn't going to be that good, since you're not playing a lot of minions. If you have to pay 8+ mana for it, it's not better than Ogre. Multi-shot really isn't a 2x card, because a lot of decks won't have multiple minions out for you to hit (assuming you're focusing on removing things as fast as possible). Demo is also kind of questionable just in general because it doesn't trade well if you don't have board control. It's better suited to a tempo deck, where it's protected by the other stuff. Here you want to focus on keeping the board under control with your cheap stuff and then winning with your big minions.

I could add the Faceless for the Giant.  Not sure what cards make sense for Multi-Shot and Demo...I guess Harvest Golem x2 could replace one of each.

[Grujah]

You want 2xTracking as it digs for specific answers. Your deck is an answer-y deck.

[ashersky]

You want 2xTracking as it digs for specific answers. Your deck is an answer-y deck.

I just don't have the answers in the deck yet.  No Snipe, no Misdirection, no Longbow, no legendaries (except KK).  I guess it can hunt for the big minions when needed later.

[ashersky]

I have Violet Teacher x2...does that fit with the spells?  The deck is > 30% spells.