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[markusin]

Hey everyone, I'm going to stream another arena run in about 20 minutes, with commentary. Hopefully there are no technical difficulties. My main concern is whether my voice is audible.

Twitch channel:
http://www.twitch.tv/markusincos

Okay, I'm planning to stream my arena run again in 30 minutes. Stay tuned.

Edit: Okay stream started.

Edit 2: Stream over.

[Grujah]

'Armani' Berserker:

http://i.imgur.com/LxvFQmA.png

[Twistedarcher]

I just got two legendaries in one pack!

[ashersky]

I just got two legendaries in one pack!

Congrats!  I hate you!

[KingZog3]

I just got two legendaries in one pack!

Which one's? Because we don't hate you as much if it's Lo Walker Cho and Millhouse Manastorm.

[Twistedarcher]

The Beast and Illidan, so don't hate me TOO much. The pack also had a golden common, too!

[KingZog3]

The Beast and Illidan, so don't hate me TOO much. The pack also had a golden common, too!

Yeah the Beast is kind of crappy. Illidan is ok, I see him sometimes but his low health is really bad.

[ashersky]

The Beast and Illidan, so don't hate me TOO much. The pack also had a golden common, too!

Yeah the Beast is kind of crappy. Illidan is ok, I see him sometimes but his low health is really bad.

Illidan is the legendary Violet Teacher, right?  That's pretty awesome in the way that Violet Teacher is awesome.

What's the Beast's deal?

[KingZog3]

The Beast and Illidan, so don't hate me TOO much. The pack also had a golden common, too!

Yeah the Beast is kind of crappy. Illidan is ok, I see him sometimes but his low health is really bad.

Illidan is the legendary Violet Teacher, right?  That's pretty awesome in the way that Violet Teacher is awesome.

What's the Beast's deal?

It's large minion for cheap cost with a drawback. It's not terrible, but I think Cairne is better. Also the drawback is pretty annoying. I'd rather just give my hero damage than give my opponent a decent minion.

[ashersky]

Sometimes the Hearthstone wikia is so terrible.

Strategy
The Beast is a powerful late game minion that comes with an unfortunate Deathrattle.
The Beast synergizes exceptionally well in hunter decks that focus on the use of beasts.
Being a mostly offensive creature, it is best to protect it with creatures that use Taunt or grant it Charge soon after summoning. This is especially true when considering upon death, it grants your opponent a 3/3 Finkle Einhorn.
When playing it, try to Silence The Beast to prevent your opponent from profiting from its Deathrattle.

Finkle Einhorn
If you have Finkle Einhorn in play, you probably have little need of this section - you're already a strategic mastermind for defeating your opponent's The Beast!
Normally after dealing with The Beast, unless you used a spell to destroy it, you will probably not have many minions on the field. Giving Finkle a buff, such as Mark of the Wild or Blessing of Kings is a good way to get back into the game. Alternatively, you can use a Taunt effect such as Shieldbearer's to protect yourself.

[HiveMindEmulator]

I just got two legendaries in one pack!

Which one's? Because we don't hate you as much if it's Lo Walker Cho and Millhouse Manastorm.

A couple weeks ago I got the best pack ever: Edwin Van Cleef and Golden Ysera.

[KingZog3]

I just got two legendaries in one pack!

Which one's? Because we don't hate you as much if it's Lo Walker Cho and Millhouse Manastorm.

A couple weeks ago I got the best pack ever: Edwin Van Cleef and Golden Ysera.

Well I still don't hate you. I just sort of dislike you. I got Bloodmage Thalnos a week or two ago and that was the last legendary I got. He's done me a lot of good though.

[ashersky]

I still lead all of you in sad legendary stories with my solitary King Krush.

[markusin]

I still lead all of you in sad legendary stories with my solitary King Krush.

Seriously, it's like you don't have any legendaries at all, like me.

[Ichimaru Gin]

I still lead all of you in sad legendary stories with my solitary King Krush.

Seriously, it's like you don't have any legendaries at all, like me.

I only just got one, King Mookla. I don't find him that good, but maybe it's just the decks that I play.

[Grujah]

I still lead all of you in sad legendary stories with my solitary King Krush.

Seriously, it's like you don't have any legendaries at all, like me.

I only just got one, King Mookla. I don't find him that good, but maybe it's just the decks that I play.

blueblimp and I had an "argument" here about how good he is (he was my first or second legendary, btw) and.. I retract what I said. He is situational, but he is GOOD.

He rocks in Coldlight Rogue where you don't really care about card disadvantage, nor about good trades, only about damage output. Thing is, even if you only hit once and than they kill him, he still did his job - he dealt damage, and made them waste a turn removing him. Thats good. Also after chargers and the Argent Squire, he's the best Cold Light target in the deck.
I also saw him perform good in Pally aggro, where you turn 6 Mukla + Divine Favor and your opponent feels like shit.

[Grujah]

BTW can we rename this to Hearthstone General Chat or something? :p

[ashersky]

I still lead all of you in sad legendary stories with my solitary King Krush.

Seriously, it's like you don't have any legendaries at all, like me.

You aren't in the competition yet.  The battle is for "least happy player to have opened a legendary" or some such title.  You can't compete until you get one, and most likely it'll be better than King Krush, so your only hope is for a tie.

[nkirbit]

I've been playing with miracle lately.. I'm not the best, but I'm doing alright, I think I'm winning over half my games.

I just played against control warrior, and the matchup just felt unwinnable.  Every Shield Slam and Armorsmith felt impossible to deal with, he was at 40 life before I could do anything.  I didn't have a good way to deal with Acolyte's of Pain.. it just felt bad.  Like I could have stacked my deck and still not won the game.

You guys had said the matchup was 50/50.. what am I doing wrong?

[Ichimaru Gin]

I still lead all of you in sad legendary stories with my solitary King Krush.

Seriously, it's like you don't have any legendaries at all, like me.

I only just got one, King Mookla. I don't find him that good, but maybe it's just the decks that I play.

blueblimp and I had an "argument" here about how good he is (he was my first or second legendary, btw) and.. I retract what I said. He is situational, but he is GOOD.

He rocks in Coldlight Rogue where you don't really care about card disadvantage, nor about good trades, only about damage output. Thing is, even if you only hit once and than they kill him, he still did his job - he dealt damage, and made them waste a turn removing him. Thats good. Also after chargers and the Argent Squire, he's the best Cold Light target in the deck.
I also saw him perform good in Pally aggro, where you turn 6 Mukla + Divine Favor and your opponent feels like shit.

Thanks. I appreciate the strategy advice, as I wouldn't have seen most of those applications. Well, he's the only legend I got at the moment; I think I'll have to try him with some of the combos you mentioned.

[KingZog3]

I've been playing with miracle lately.. I'm not the best, but I'm doing alright, I think I'm winning over half my games.

I just played against control warrior, and the matchup just felt unwinnable.  Every Shield Slam and Armorsmith felt impossible to deal with, he was at 40 life before I could do anything.  I didn't have a good way to deal with Acolyte's of Pain.. it just felt bad.  Like I could have stacked my deck and still not won the game.

You guys had said the matchup was 50/50.. what am I doing wrong?

Control Warrior does well against decks like Miracle Rogue and freeze mage because he can boost his hp way past normal amounts with armor. Miracle rogue essentially can burst huge amounts of damage, but generally your opponent is around 24-28hp when you execute a Leeroy combo. Same how Freeze Mage relies on Alexstraza to lower you to 15hp, but Control Warrior can still be at high hp even after Alexstraza.

[blueblimp]

I've been playing with miracle lately.. I'm not the best, but I'm doing alright, I think I'm winning over half my games.

I just played against control warrior, and the matchup just felt unwinnable.  Every Shield Slam and Armorsmith felt impossible to deal with, he was at 40 life before I could do anything.  I didn't have a good way to deal with Acolyte's of Pain.. it just felt bad.  Like I could have stacked my deck and still not won the game.

You guys had said the matchup was 50/50.. what am I doing wrong?

I think it partly depends on your miracle variant. I find the matchup tough but I play without assassin's blade. I've read that it can help by giving you an extra 12 damage in your deck.

I find that the wins come when I can drop enough small threats to deny his hero power and do a little damage, then find the Leeroy combo quickly. For things like acolytes and armorsmiths, if they aren't causing you immediate problems, I'd just try to ignore them and conserve spells to feed auctioneer. Depends on the situation, of course.

[HiveMindEmulator]

I've been playing with miracle lately.. I'm not the best, but I'm doing alright, I think I'm winning over half my games.

I just played against control warrior, and the matchup just felt unwinnable.  Every Shield Slam and Armorsmith felt impossible to deal with, he was at 40 life before I could do anything.  I didn't have a good way to deal with Acolyte's of Pain.. it just felt bad.  Like I could have stacked my deck and still not won the game.

You guys had said the matchup was 50/50.. what am I doing wrong?

Warrior was good against old styles of Miracle Rogue that didn't run enough minions. If you're running one of those decks, you're going to have a hard time with Warrior because you have a very finite damage output. At first, people started using Assassin's Blade to add more damage. But now 2x Farseer is standard, and people run more Cantrip minions with damage (more Azure Drake than Acolyte) By having minions on the board, you force your opponent to spend their mana and potentially health (via weapon use) to deal with them. So they can't just sit there and armor up.

8 of the 12 seeded players at Dreamhack ran a Miracle Rogue, and all were within 2 cards of this list:
2x backstab
2x prep
2x shadowstep
1x cold blood
1x conceal
2x deadly
2x flurry
2x evis
2x sap
2x shiv
1x thalnos
1x fan
2x farseer
1x edwin
2x si7
1x leeroy
1x assassin's blade
1x azure drake
2x auctioneer

The variations involved removing 2nd Flurry, Assassin's Blade, 2nd Sap, or Cold Blood for 2nd Fan, 2nd Azure Drake, Coldlight Oracle, Sen'jin, Novice Engi, or Loot Hoarder.

[Titandrake]

You know, I've always been confused as to why Miracle will sometimes only run 1xConceal. I don't play constructed, but I always got the impression that you wanted to do Auctioneer + Conceal to prepare for next turn. Maybe I'm overestimating the amount of mana you need to go off, but having to spend 5 on Auctioneer feels like a lot, and leaving an unstealthed Auctioneer sounds like suicide.

[Kirian]

I still lead all of you in sad legendary stories with my solitary King Krush.

Seriously, it's like you don't have any legendaries at all, like me.

You aren't in the competition yet.  The battle is for "least happy player to have opened a legendary" or some such title.  You can't compete until you get one, and most likely it'll be better than King Krush, so your only hope is for a tie.

My only legendary is Jaraxxus. A 9-drop is useless in a zoo deck, and I'm several Giants short of a handlock deck.  So he's doing nothing but sitting in my binder.