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[blueblimp]

Hearthstone feels like it's meant to appear relaxing and rather silent.

I dunno, I watch streams mostly for the commentary. The whole enjoyment of watching streams, for me, is watching annotated high-level play. For arena commentary, Kripp is the best I've seen, or at least he was a few months ago, before he moved to Greece and correspondingly moved his time slot so that I don't watch him much.

[Drab Emordnilap]

Well then come and make commentary in the chat.

[popsofctown]

My gf noticed I have more arena wins than Trump.  I was surprised..

[blueblimp]

My gf noticed I have more arena wins than Trump.  I was surprised..

Is that average or total? Because if you have more _total_ than a full-time streamer who (at one point, maybe not so much now) plays primarily arena, that's crazy.

[popsofctown]

I have more total wins than him, on all his accounts combined

[popsofctown]

The arena games he played before the closed beta wipe wouldn't count obviously, but still..

[nkirbit]

Trump also has played on a bunch of accounts across different servers.. maybe you two were looking at one of his other accounts?  Or maybe you just play a lot of arena.

How many arena wins do you have?

[popsofctown]

1755.  He has a stats page that I assume counts all of his accounts together, according to that stats page he has 1530 wins

[Kirian]

1755.

Holy shit man!

[popsofctown]

more than my forum respect!

[markusin]

Hearthstone feels like it's meant to appear relaxing and rather silent.

I dunno, I watch streams mostly for the commentary. The whole enjoyment of watching streams, for me, is watching annotated high-level play. For arena commentary, Kripp is the best I've seen, or at least he was a few months ago, before he moved to Greece and correspondingly moved his time slot so that I don't watch him much.

I wouldn't call myself high level though. Next time, I can add commentary.

[nkirbit]

Thanks for the stream markusin!  It was fun to watch!

[markusin]

I really should add some of you guys. There's this list here:

I started with a Mage Deck, but pretty quickly switched to Priest.  I've finally cobbled together a Hunter-like deck to finish up some quests, and it was not unfun.  I'm trying to decide if I'll change classes for the next month or not.

I think this is the list of the people who play, and their IDs.

Twistedarcher - Bkirbit #1439
Popsofctown - KirbyHero #1343
Grujah - Grujah #2516
ycz6 - ycz#1361
KingZog3 - KingZog3 #1700
Drab Emordnilap - Drab #1455
Shraeye - Shraeye #1428
Theory - Theory#1157
Kirian - Kirian #1720
HiveMindEmulator - Mikohoy#1464
Ashersky - Ashersky #1470
Titandrake #1456
Nkirbit - Nick #11795

I'll send friend requests to those that watched my stream today, if I remember them all. I can send requests to the others with their permission.

[Dsell]

I've messed around with hearthstone a few times, have a few crummy decks I have fun piloting, but I think I want to actually play some and get better, especially arena. Which resources do you guys recommend for a newish player trying to improve? Alternatively, learning from an f.dser would be amazing. I'm gonna go and add all of you now in case I see you online and you can destroy teach me.

[popsofctown]

I am a decent player!

[Dsell]

I am a decent player!

Teach me!

[heron]

When I first played I would get 0-3 arena wins. But I just watched Trump's stream a few times and read his drafting guide and now I get 6-8 wins. Obviously that can't happen for everyone, but I think watching the stream a few times really helped. I would definitely worry more about how you play than what cards you draft.

[Obi Wan Bonogi]

Hearthstone tourney @ Dreamhack being streamed this weekend:  http://www.viagame.com/channels/hearthstone-championship

Interesting to watch, the analysts are doing a good job.

[Dsell]

Thanks to both of you guys! Just played a few games to have enough gold for an arena run. I'll watch some stuff and see if I can get a better sense for it.

[blueblimp]

I've messed around with hearthstone a few times, have a few crummy decks I have fun piloting, but I think I want to actually play some and get better, especially arena. Which resources do you guys recommend for a newish player trying to improve? Alternatively, learning from an f.dser would be amazing. I'm gonna go and add all of you now in case I see you online and you can destroy teach me.

For arena play, as said, watch a little of any good arena player's stream. LiquidHearth has a list of active streams on the right-hand side. Kripparrian, TrumpSC, itshafu are all good arena players who often play it on stream.

For arena drafting, I suggest using a guide and just picking by card quality to start. Any reasonable guide will do. Some examples:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AifXEOqTcGcLdFVvWk1GRjVJTHJUaTVLcGViR1RRTFE&gid=20
http://www.liquidhearth.com/guides/arena-tier-list
http://www.liquidhearth.com/forum/arena-strategy/457576-massans-guide-to-midrange-arena

IMO, card quality is the main thing to guide your picks in arena. It's possible to ignore curve and luck into a good curve, but you can't ignore quality and luck into quality.

[popsofctown]

Aside from curve there is also synergy, and card roles, too.

[blueblimp]

Aside from curve there is also synergy, and card roles, too.

Yeah, and I also think it's worth mostly ignoring those, at first anyway. You can luck into good synergy and card roles while picking based purely on card quality. (And if you don't, decks with quality cards but crap synergy/curve/roles can do surprisingly well.) It's only really the last few picks where factors other than quality become worth considering, except when breaking ties between cards of similar quality.

[popsofctown]

It's definitely something you can ignore early on.  I wanted to make a point of it though because card roles are less algorithmic than the curve, so those are are the big things at the pinnacle of developing skills.

[markusin]

Lol I just encountered ObiWanBonogi in the arena, unless someone else has that name too.

[Kirian]

What the hell, suddenly I'm streaming games.  No sound, no talk, play your own music, Arena inc...

http://www.twitch.tv/kirian42/profile

...and a highly successful 2-3.  Wherein I make a big fuckup in the last turn of Game 3, and another in the third-to-last (?) of Game 5.  Well at least I can point to where I screwed up!

Anyway, happy for tips or whatever.  Other than the obvious "don't forget that your Truesilver heals you for two points" thing.

...also, apparently I didn't actually link the stream.