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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #1525 on: July 15, 2014, 07:06:39 pm »
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Van Cleef is usually put down earlier. Sometimes you do it in the combo, if you don't have Leeroy.

You basically Prep any card that you can (Preferably Eviscerate or so) as you are trying to fish out for Shadowsteps, Leeroy and Cold Bloods (softening him up further with Evi, Shiv, SI7 is also good). Sap if you have/need to. Also doing Prep - Fan of Knives, even though it doesn't really help you win, it's draw 3 for 0 mana which is great.
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #1526 on: July 15, 2014, 07:08:13 pm »
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And I envy you guys that didn't have to face miracle yet :P
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #1527 on: July 15, 2014, 07:13:12 pm »
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And I envy you guys that didn't have to face miracle yet :P

The life of the arena player, everyone you play in play mode is random neutrals.

Although near one of the resets, I got matched up to a Handlock at rank 20. I won from a Mind Blast. There might have been a Prophet Velen too - don't remember.
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #1528 on: July 15, 2014, 07:22:12 pm »
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So with the deck, last game after having lost my first two, I'm down to 6 health but my opponent is out of cards and only has 2 small minions on the board. I have 6 on the board.  My opponent draws and plays ragnaros, rams his 2 minions into my taunt, not killing it.  So ragnaros still has 7 targets.  And of course it hits me...

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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #1529 on: July 15, 2014, 07:27:00 pm »
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Yup, you fell victim to the SNIPER RAG.
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #1530 on: July 15, 2014, 07:42:53 pm »
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Ugh... So frustrating.

But I think RNG is treating me a little better.  Here's my next draft:

http://arenamastery.com/bTrl

Sorry for spamming :P  But I want advice to get better.  I still am pretty bad at this

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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #1531 on: July 15, 2014, 07:46:24 pm »
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dude that deck looks bonkers holy crap, like doubledigit wins bonkers?

I can't get on right now, but maybe some kind fellow here will use Google Hangouts and screenshare with you to guide you through how to play that awesome deck?

EDIT: omg and your deck could have been even better.  I would have taken Starfire > Innervate.  I guess you have no Swipe.
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #1532 on: July 15, 2014, 08:00:48 pm »
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No, no swipe unfortunately :(

edit: but I did win my first game :)  I just want to get past 4 wins, since that's my max so far...

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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #1533 on: July 15, 2014, 08:02:13 pm »
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I agree with theory. That should totally get you a lot of wins. A couple of spells instead of minions and that looks like a constructed deck.
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #1534 on: July 15, 2014, 08:04:05 pm »
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I agree with theory. That should totally get you a lot of wins. A couple of spells instead of minions and that looks like a constructed deck.
That's assuming I play it right :P 

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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #1535 on: July 15, 2014, 08:11:05 pm »
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I agree with theory. That should totally get you a lot of wins. A couple of spells instead of minions and that looks like a constructed deck.
That's assuming I play it right :P

Yeah :P I've blown amazing drafts with stupid plays. If you feel like you're playing badly, don't do the run. Leave it until later. I've found spacing out arena games improves my play just because I suffer less from attrition, if you want to call it that.
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #1536 on: July 15, 2014, 11:02:15 pm »
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When downloading the latest patch, I got a popup saying that my Mac OS (10.6.8) is no longer supported on Hearthstone. It allows me to continue anyways, so we'll see what happens, but I hope this doesn't lead to any problems down the road.
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #1537 on: July 16, 2014, 12:45:04 pm »
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I just crossed the Threshold from playing against Zoo to Zoo with Giants. Zoo with Giants is miles better and scary for me to go up against. (I'm currently playing a Watcher Druid deck with lots of Taunts).
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #1538 on: July 16, 2014, 01:10:38 pm »
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I was just more pumped about two rares (one gold!) and an epic from a crappy arena run...
Looking at preparation, it really doesn't seem that good to me.  But I've hardly played rogue at all as well.

Also, I decided to do that arena mastery thing the right way this time. Except I got a terrible draft... Shaman with no board clear.  My previous was Mage with no flamestrike... I think RNG is out to get me.

http://arenamastery.com/pVMR

Picks 2 and 4 you took Earthshocks over Grizzly and Abusive. Earthshock is actually not that good. It's decent, but not a top priority. Grizzly is good for Shaman since you want Taunts, and Abusive is usually better removal than Earthshock.
Pick 6 you need to take Ogre. Forked Lightning is not that good. It will occassionally go 2-for-1, but usually only with air totem. Ogre goes 2-for-1 or better like all the time.
Pick 8, you should take the Bluegill. Warden is pickable with Shaman, but Bluegill is solid removal.
Pick 13 you should take the Bodyguard. It's not a great card, but neither is Engineer, and you want taunts.
Pick 20 you should take the Wraith. You need 2-drops, and Priestess is not that good. You don't want stuff that requires board control for Shaman. Totems give you value with board control, your cards should be aimed at acquiring that board control.
Pick 21 should probably be Bodyguard again. Archer, like Earthshock really doesn't do enough, and taunts -- even subpar ones -- are important. Overall I think you overvalue weak removal.
Pick 24 you might want to consider the Raptor due to the lack of 2-drops.
Pick 26 should probably be Mercenary. You have no late game.
Pick 29 has to be Raider. You really need 2-drops now, and you don't have any big minions to use the winfury battlecry on anyway.
Pick 30 should be Pint-sized due to the major lack of 2-drops. Don't think that because your hero power makes minions that you can skimp on 2-drops for Shaman. The totems don't do anything until you have board control.

so I just opened this pack

Seen better.

@jorbles - Preparation is THE card in Rogue Miracle (that and Gadzetan). It's like a Dark Ritual for 0  :o

So to kick off your combo you get a protected/stealthed Auctioneer out and then cast Preparation to kick off a combo like "Preparation + Assassinate + Van Cleef + Shadow Step + Van Cleef + Shadow Step + Van Cleef + Conceal/Master of Disguise" or "Preparation + Sprint + Eviscerate + Eviscerate + Sinister Strike + Sinister Strike"?

It doesn't need to be that complicated. The main thing is that Prep makes basically all spells free (you don't usually run Assassinate or Sprint in Miracle). That means with zero mana, you can still draw 2 cards off of your Auctioneer. A normal play is like turn 6-7 Auctioneer + Prep and 2 more spells to draw 3 cards.
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #1539 on: July 16, 2014, 06:03:27 pm »
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Thanks for all that help HME!  I definitely overvalued cheap stuff. 

Also, I just played thoughtsteal and got 2 stonetusk boars...  Really? 

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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #1540 on: July 16, 2014, 06:20:55 pm »
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Thanks for all that help HME!  I definitely overvalued cheap stuff. 

Also, I just played thoughtsteal and got 2 stonetusk boars...  Really?

It's better than Deadly Poison and a Blade Furry. So be happy about that.
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #1541 on: July 16, 2014, 11:14:26 pm »
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but seriously, I'm surprised he had 2 of them in his deck...

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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #1542 on: July 16, 2014, 11:23:15 pm »
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Thanks for all that help HME!  I definitely overvalued cheap stuff. 

Also, I just played thoughtsteal and got 2 stonetusk boars...  Really?

but seriously, I'm surprised he had 2 of them in his deck...

Hunter at least?
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #1543 on: July 16, 2014, 11:52:07 pm »
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I can't remember... My first thought is it was paladin, but I really don't remember...

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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #1544 on: July 17, 2014, 06:39:56 am »
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Is it worth spending the dust to craft a Murloc Warleader (epic) to get the Legendary Murloc?
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #1545 on: July 17, 2014, 07:23:14 am »
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Is it worth spending the dust to craft a Murloc Warleader (epic) to get the Legendary Murloc?

Not if you don't plan on using it.
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« Reply #1546 on: July 17, 2014, 07:26:34 am »
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Is it worth spending the dust to craft a Murloc Warleader (epic) to get the Legendary Murloc?

Not if you don't plan on using it.

I guess I'm asking if it is worth building around.  SwampLock or Murloc Druid or something.
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #1547 on: July 17, 2014, 07:30:32 am »
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Is it worth spending the dust to craft a Murloc Warleader (epic) to get the Legendary Murloc?

Not if you don't plan on using it.

I guess I'm asking if it is worth building around.  SwampLock or Murloc Druid or something.

They can be fun, but they aren't used much for serious play. At least I never see any.
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #1548 on: July 17, 2014, 07:48:41 am »
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Mrglrglgrlgrglrglgrlgrl!
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« Reply #1549 on: July 17, 2014, 09:23:24 am »
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Mrglrglgrlgrglrglgrlgrl!

Yeah, but the main problem I see is that wary murlocks get taken out easily.
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