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[Warfreak2]

Atomic Wishing Well is in the Black Market deck!

[Watno]

It's in the black market.

[RTT]

He said that AtomicWW starts in your deck and is not in the supply

[Simon (DK)]

As a potential upper bound:

*have exactly 17 known, distinct cards in your draw pile, including a Stash, and all from the Black Market deck (or Shelters).

*play University, gain the Inn.  Shuffle, placing the Stash 7th from the top.

*play Navigator, looking at the top 5 cards and returning them.

*play 10 Pearl Divers, bringing all 10 cards to the top.  This leaves Stash at the bottom, and the card just above it we know by process of elimination.

*gain and topdeck (with Watchtower) 43 unique cards (10 knights, 9 other kingdom cards, 1 bane, 4 base victories, 5 base treasures, 1 Curse, 5 Ruins, 5 Prizes, 1 Spoils, 1 Mercenary, 1 Madman)



*play 10 Black Markets and 10 BoM as Black Market to gain and topdeck 20 unique cards

*topdeck 10 cards with Count

*topdeck 10 cards with Mandarin

*topdeck 10 cards with Courtyard (topdeck 3 nonuniques by gaining and topdecking with Watchtower, then play Courtyard to draw them and put back a unique.  Repeat)

Total:  17+43+10+20+30 = 120 differently named cards.


Edit:  10 more from Scavenger.  However, since I'm using these full stacks of 10, I cannot include as topdecked: Pearl Diver, Black Market, Band of Misfits, Courtyard, Mandarin, Count, Scavenger.  So that's -7 cards.  Thus my revised upper bound is 123.

Edit:  10-1 more from Graverobber.  Total: 132

Kingdom: 
Black Market, Pearl Diver(bane), Band of Misfits, Courtyard, Mandarin
Count, Scavenger, Inn, Tournament, Graverobber, Knights

Edit:  Oh, 16 more by playing one of each kingdom treasure (purchased ahead of time from the Black Market deck.  doesn't include Diadem, Spoils, or Stash) before gaining a Mandarin from the Supply.

Total:  148.

If you gain and topdeck a Madman with Watchtower, it happens in the end of your turn, so that doesn't work. Still 147.

[Warfreak2]

You could return five cards, including AWW, with Scheme, so that you don't draw things you topdeck with Watchtower. Actually you could topdeck 10 cards and guess five of them.

[SirPeebles]

Simon's right about Madman; this is the observation which inspired my "easy puzzle" yesterday.

Pearl Diver is messier than I thought, but you can gain one card to the top of your deck in between plays.

The Kingdom which I proposed probably does not have enough Villages or Gainers in its Black Market deck to support that optimal strategy, so even 147 is probably not achievable.