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Re: Goko Gives Us Something Isotropic Never Did: Pornography
« Reply #25 on: June 24, 2013, 05:15:58 pm »
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A problem might arise if Goko decide that they want to ban the use of an extension that allows custom avatars on top of the officially-sanctioned ones, based on this.

Can they actually ban it, though? I'm not sure that's possible.

Maybe.  There was once a really great extension for Tumblr called "missing e" (it hasn't been updated in ages).  At one point, Tumblr decided they didn't like it (without really giving a good reason why).  They were able to detect if users were using it.  Presumably, if they really wanted to, they could detect and then deny service to extension users.
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Re: Goko Gives Us Something Isotropic Never Did: Pornography
« Reply #26 on: June 24, 2013, 05:21:48 pm »
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Yeah, they probably could if they set their mind to it. I don't particularly want goko and nutki to get involved in an arms race though! Nobody wins that.

They could take the opposite tack and just say that if you're using the extension, it's your own damn fault that your extension is showing you porn, and if you don't like it, just stop using the extension and you're fine.

Maybe nutki should just put in a blacklist or something so that it never gets to that point.
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Re: Goko Gives Us Something Isotropic Never Did: Pornography
« Reply #27 on: June 24, 2013, 05:24:12 pm »
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Well, it would be pretty stupid if they did that, and also I don't think the ToS prohibit you from using any browser you want.
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Re: Goko Gives Us Something Isotropic Never Did: Pornography
« Reply #28 on: June 24, 2013, 05:25:55 pm »
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Well, it would be pretty stupid if they did that, and also I don't think the ToS prohibit you from using any browser you want.

It would be pretty stupid if who did what? your post is ambiguous I think
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Re: Goko Gives Us Something Isotropic Never Did: Pornography
« Reply #29 on: June 24, 2013, 05:28:46 pm »
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Maybe nutki should just put in a blacklist or something so that it never gets to that point.
I think Nutki deleted that avatar once. He also said, that next time he will ban the user for having special avatar. So we should PM him unless he responds to this.
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Re: Goko Gives Us Something Isotropic Never Did: Pornography
« Reply #30 on: June 24, 2013, 05:30:19 pm »
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Banning the expansion would make them lose players. They won't ban it.
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Re: Goko Gives Us Something Isotropic Never Did: Pornography
« Reply #31 on: June 24, 2013, 05:34:37 pm »
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Well, it would be pretty stupid if they did that, and also I don't think the ToS prohibit you from using any browser you want.

It would be pretty stupid if who did what? your post is ambiguous I think

Ban pretty much half their users for using a browser extension.
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Re: Goko Gives Us Something Isotropic Never Did: Pornography
« Reply #32 on: June 24, 2013, 05:37:17 pm »
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Well, it would be pretty stupid if they did that, and also I don't think the ToS prohibit you from using any browser you want.

It would be pretty stupid if who did what? your post is ambiguous I think

Ban pretty much half their users for using a browser extension.

Let's be realistic, here. If the number of custom avatars are anything to go by, it's way less than half of their users.
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Re: Goko Gives Us Something Isotropic Never Did: Pornography
« Reply #33 on: June 24, 2013, 05:47:44 pm »
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A problem might arise if Goko decide that they want to ban the use of an extension that allows custom avatars on top of the officially-sanctioned ones, based on this.

Can they actually ban it, though? I'm not sure that's possible.
They can make it a violation of their terms of service, sure. Actually enforcing that, I don't know how doable it is; presumably they could (by banning users who used it), but one doubts they would make they effort. Or really have the conviction.

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Re: Goko Gives Us Something Isotropic Never Did: Pornography
« Reply #34 on: June 26, 2013, 08:58:03 am »
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It would be like if you guys all agreed to use Google Glass, and then all installed a certain app that replaced all the pictures in NYTimes with any random image selected by other users, and then complained to the NYT about it.


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Re: Goko Gives Us Something Isotropic Never Did: Pornography
« Reply #35 on: June 26, 2013, 12:23:51 pm »
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It would be like if you guys all agreed to use Google Glass, and then all installed a certain app that replaced all the pictures in NYTimes with any random image selected by other users, and then complained to the NYT about it.



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Re: Goko Gives Us Something Isotropic Never Did: Pornography
« Reply #36 on: June 26, 2013, 12:34:28 pm »
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Re: Goko Gives Us Something Isotropic Never Did: Pornography
« Reply #37 on: July 02, 2013, 08:35:02 am »
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@ this topic's creator :

OMG a naked women !! Oh no please God no I do not want to see it !!!

LOL 2.0 : Welcome to the internet my prude friend...
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Re: Goko Gives Us Something Isotropic Never Did: Pornography
« Reply #38 on: July 02, 2013, 09:07:19 am »
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@ this topic's creator :

OMG a naked women !! Oh no please God no I do not want to see it !!!

LOL 2.0 : Welcome to the internet my prude friend...

(Also, I am not offended by the images--I just expect other people to be, and for Goko to sensibly not want that.)

LOL 3.0: Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit, is it?
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Re: Goko Gives Us Something Isotropic Never Did: Pornography
« Reply #39 on: July 02, 2013, 09:19:48 am »
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A problem might arise if Goko decide that they want to ban the use of an extension that allows custom avatars on top of the officially-sanctioned ones, based on this.

Can they actually ban it, though? I'm not sure that's possible.
I do think that they can't stop people from using that extension.  However, I haven't read their Terms & Services, but I imagine they CAN decline to give service to somebody who chooses to install that extension.  Different method, same effect.
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Re: Goko Gives Us Something Isotropic Never Did: Pornography
« Reply #40 on: July 02, 2013, 09:31:56 am »
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Honestly though, many of the complaints about Goko seem to amount to laziness in their not bothering to code in things they might reasonably be expected to do.  Do you really think they'd go that far out of their way to make it so you can't play with the script running?  I can't really see it happening.
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Re: Goko Gives Us Something Isotropic Never Did: Pornography
« Reply #41 on: July 02, 2013, 11:48:54 am »
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Using a nude woman as a profile is in bad taste. No doubt it is disrespectful toward women and the extension users who would prefer to play a game of dominion void of soft-core pics.

This is the internet. So disrespect toward women is somewhat inevitable, but objectifying women is alway immoral and in bad taste. My hope is the user with the picture will see these posts and willingly change it, but maybe I'm an idealist.
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Re: Goko Gives Us Something Isotropic Never Did: Pornography
« Reply #42 on: July 02, 2013, 12:49:44 pm »
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Using a nude woman as a profile is in bad taste. No doubt it is disrespectful toward women and the extension users who would prefer to play a game of dominion void of soft-core pics.

This is the internet. So disrespect toward women is somewhat inevitable, but objectifying women is alway immoral and in bad taste. My hope is the user with the picture will see these posts and willingly change it, but maybe I'm an idealist.

He has changed his avatar... to a painting of a nude Bea Arthur.  Whether this is better is left as an exercise for everyone.  I ignore said user on the forums.
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Re: Goko Gives Us Something Isotropic Never Did: Pornography
« Reply #43 on: July 02, 2013, 06:23:38 pm »
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I was reading the ToS.  Here are some things that we've implicitly agreed to by using Goko services.

You agree that you won’t create an account or access the Service if you (i) are under the age of 13, (ii) are a convicted sex offender, (iii) if you have previously been denied by Goko use of or access to the Services or Websites, or (iv) you are located in a country embargoed by the United States or if you are on the U.S. Treasury Department's list of Specially Designated Nationals.

You agree that you will not use your account to engage in any illegal conduct. You are prohibited from posting on or transmitting through the Website or Services any partially or fully nude images of anyone, at any age, of any gender, including sexually suggestive images or words, unlawful, harmful, threatening, abusive, harassing, defamatory, vulgar, obscene, sexually explicit, profane, hateful, racially, ethnically or otherwise objectionable material of any kind that infringes the intellectual property rights or is otherwise injurious to third parties, including but not limited to any material that encourages conduct that would constitute a criminal offense, give rise to civil liability or otherwise violate any applicable local, state, national or international law.

You agree that you will not (i) interfere or attempt to interfere with the proper functioning of the Service or connect to or use the Service in any way not expressly permitted by these Terms of Use; (ii) Use any unauthorized third party software that accesses, intercepts, "mines", or otherwise collects information from or through the Service or Websites or that is in transit from or to the Service, including, without limitation, any software that reads areas of RAM or streams of network traffic used by the Service to store information about Goko game characters, game elements rules or game play

etc.

So apparently people under 13 shouldn't play Goko games.  That seems odd.  The last paragraph might even give Goko grounds to disallow their users from using the script extension at all.  If not at all, then at least if it is being used to "transmit partially or fully nude images".
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Re: Goko Gives Us Something Isotropic Never Did: Pornography
« Reply #44 on: July 02, 2013, 06:24:18 pm »
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So apparently people under 13 shouldn't play Goko games.
I think that's standard internet legalese. I could be wrong.
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Re: Goko Gives Us Something Isotropic Never Did: Pornography
« Reply #45 on: July 02, 2013, 06:26:26 pm »
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I  think that the last paragraph probably pretty clearly prohibits the extension, if they decide to actually enforce it...

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Re: Goko Gives Us Something Isotropic Never Did: Pornography
« Reply #46 on: July 02, 2013, 06:28:08 pm »
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It also forbids browsers I think.
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Re: Goko Gives Us Something Isotropic Never Did: Pornography
« Reply #47 on: July 02, 2013, 06:52:00 pm »
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It also forbids browsers I think.
I assume that browsers fall into the "authorized third-party" category.  Otherwise I'm going to get back to figuring out how smoke signals can access the internet.
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Re: Goko Gives Us Something Isotropic Never Did: Pornography
« Reply #48 on: July 02, 2013, 07:00:04 pm »
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The "unauthorized" phrasing allows Goko to set whatever they like as the limits depending on whether they "authorize" it or not. At the moment they definitely know about the extension and they haven't told anyone to take it down, so I suppose it's authorized for now. But if they change their mind, it'll be unauthorized and against the rules.
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Re: Goko Gives Us Something Isotropic Never Did: Pornography
« Reply #49 on: July 02, 2013, 08:54:23 pm »
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I imagine that the Goko staff has other things to do than pursue people who are using some third party browser extension. I'd actually be impressed if they did. That's the kind of vitality Goko needs to give online Dominion the glory it deserves.
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