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[LastFootnote]

EDIT: Finally won one. I think judicious use of Butcher to turn Curses into Coppers helped a lot. I think it's the overpay cards that are killing me, especially Stonemason. The bots can just gain a crapton of VP all at once with it. I did get a $9 Doctor that trashed 6 cards in one game, though. That was awesome even though I later lost through terrible play.

Why butcher something at all then?

I'm perplexed by your question. You still net 2 Coin tokens when you Butcher a Curse into a Copper. Beats losing 1 to turn a Curse into a Silver.

[Watno]

Ah sorry, i thought you had said coppers into coppers.

[mameluke]

They appear to have changed the Name a Card/Show All Cards mechanic, so it has the cards on the table at the beginning (was a problem with Ruins, Shelters, etc.) before. Great!!

[joel88s]

You mean you didn't enjoy scrolling through 150 cards to name your Young Yak?
I agree, such an improvement.

[Stealth Tomato]

You mean you didn't enjoy scrolling through 150 cards to name your Young Yak?
I agree, such an improvement.

Suddenly I am thoroughly disappointed there is no Dominion card called Young Yak.

[shMerker]

I think overpay and "use a coin token" could be improved if they had a 10x version next to the regular button. I had a pretty big Merchant Guild turn in one game and ended up hitting the "use a coin token" button 40 times on my next turn[/firstworldproblems].

[Beyond Awesome]

Coins are interesting and skill testing. I am surprised at how many times I end up saving coins.

[joel88s]

You mean you didn't enjoy scrolling through 150 cards to name your Young Yak?
I agree, such an improvement.

Suddenly I am thoroughly disappointed there is no Dominion card called Young Yak.

Hear that, Donald?
We want Dominion: Wild Kingdom!

[jsh357]

So far, I have to say I'm enjoying the coin tokens a lot more than I thought I would.  It's as if they're the missing thing in Dominion I always wanted but never realized it.

[joel88s]

I think overpay and "use a coin token" could be improved if they had a 10x version next to the regular button. I had a pretty big Merchant Guild turn in one game and ended up hitting the "use a coin token" button 40 times on my next turn[/firstworldproblems].

Well just think how much worse it would be IRL, like paying for groceries with pennies.
Actually does anyone know if the set comes with $5 or $10 tokens?

[microman]

I found the first bug! Taxman lets you gain Action cards.

I found that too right away.  I tried telling my apponent sangatsu but he never replied.  I was good and didn't break the rule, cause turning coppers into schemes would have been sick.  Btw Stealth, I saw that you stayed up til guilds came out just like I did.  Diehards, that's what we are! 

[Schneau]

I think overpay and "use a coin token" could be improved if they had a 10x version next to the regular button. I had a pretty big Merchant Guild turn in one game and ended up hitting the "use a coin token" button 40 times on my next turn[/firstworldproblems].

Well just think how much worse it would be IRL, like paying for groceries with pennies.
Actually does anyone know if the set comes with $5 or $10 tokens?

Based on the rulebook, I think it does not.

[serakfalcon]

[confessionbear]I just use all the tokens interchangeably, using the context to distinguish what they mean[/confessionbear]
(on a pile is trade route or embargo), or depending on which mat they are on thats what kind of token they are... Mostly applies for subbing other tokens to use as VP counters.

[BBL]

Fun things to do in Guilds: Finishing the game by butchering a Province into a Province and then buying the last Duchy with the coins you've got from butchering. :-)

[Davio]

The fun thing about Butcher is that you can still play it for the Coins even if you don't want to trash anything. Another "one-up" over Remodel.

So...
Remodel - $4 - forced trash, up to $2 more
Butcher - $5 - free trash up to the number of coins more (at least $2)
Expand - $7 - forced trash, up to $3 more

Is it me or does Expand seem even more overpriced now?
If you use Butcher as a $1 more the first time, you get an Expand for the next round.
And if you just trash for the same card, you can trash for $4 more the next time around, that's just crazy!

I'm glad Butcher is only costed $5, but now that I start comparing it to Expand, it wouldn't have been that far fetched to make it cost $6.

[Schneau]

I'm glad Butcher is only costed $5, but now that I start comparing it to Expand, it wouldn't have been that far fetched to make it cost $6.

Or to go back in time and make Expand cost $6. I don't think it would be overpowered there.

[werothegreat]

I'm glad Butcher is only costed $5, but now that I start comparing it to Expand, it wouldn't have been that far fetched to make it cost $6.

Or to go back in time and make Expand cost $6. I don't think it would be overpowered there.

Eh.  I love how Rebuild is essentially just what we all wanted to use Expand for in the first place, except better.

[michaeljb]

Rebuild and Butcher exist, therefore Expand sucks.

[werothegreat]

Rebuild and Butcher exist, therefore Expand sucks.

I still think Cellar is better than Warehouse.

[sudgy]

The fun thing about Butcher is that you can still play it for the Coins even if you don't want to trash anything. Another "one-up" over Remodel.

I did that one time too, I didn't want to trash anything, so I just played it for the coins.

[Beyond Awesome]

Rebuild and Butcher exist, therefore Expand sucks.

I still think Cellar is better than Warehouse.

In an engine deck with any sort of draw (which is almost all the time), I agree with you.

[Warfreak2]

Warehouse and Inn, which let you discard after drawing, are great with Menagerie: