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[spiritbears]

Except that Yuma really didn't make a case...his only "hard evidence" was "opportunistic vote on mc"....which is really just opinion.  The whole "new info" you refer to is really about three short sentences....that are mostly opinion and not fact based. Robz immediately buys it...obviously without a close read of it...and without saying why or what he sees in nk....

[Voltaire]

Except that Yuma really didn't make a case...his only "hard evidence" was "opportunistic vote on mc"....which is really just opinion.  The whole "new info" you refer to is really about three short sentences....that are mostly opinion and not fact based. Robz immediately buys it...obviously without a close read of it...and without saying why or what he sees in nk....

Well then what do you think of my vote on nkirbit?

[spiritbears]

Problematic.  But not as ugly as robz...

[yuma]

Problematic.  But not as ugly as robz...

But why? Why is either problematic? As individual votes that is... because you are basically being suspicious of these two for the same reason I am of nkirbit... (which you have said you didn't like) for jumping on a wagon. But the difference is that in nkirbit there is a trend... 3 different wagons on 3 different players who kinda looked like they might be easy lynches. with robz and voltaire... not so much of a trend as this is more of a solitary incident.

[nkirbit]

Yuma:  I don't see why you see a trend in me that you don't see in Robz.  Both Robz and I voted for mcmc, for the exact same reason, one post after the other.

I voted for mail-mi after you had, and Robz voted for myself after you had.

I voted for Chairs after Robz had, but Robz hadn't voted until I had applied some pressure on him and made it clear that I was suspicious of what he was saying.  I guess it's important that Robz voted before I did, but I think you're incorrect in saying that there's a trend for me where there isn't for Robz.  We're both acting in a similar way.

Which makes me suspicious of Robz for finding me suspicious for something he himself is doing.  Hm.

[spiritbears]

Yuma:  I don't see why you see a trend in me that you don't see in Robz.  Both Robz and I voted for mcmc, for the exact same reason, one post after the other.

I voted for mail-mi after you had, and Robz voted for myself after you had.

I voted for Chairs after Robz had, but Robz hadn't voted until I had applied some pressure on him and made it clear that I was suspicious of what he was saying.  I guess it's important that Robz voted before I did, but I think you're incorrect in saying that there's a trend for me where there isn't for Robz.  We're both acting in a similar way.

Which makes me suspicious of Robz for finding me suspicious for something he himself is doing.  Hm.

Right. Except robz doesn't back his votes up with any reads or information. I'm much mire comfortable with a robz than a mai vote.

[Voltaire]

Right. Except robz doesn't back his votes up with any reads or information. I'm much mire comfortable with a robz than a mai vote.

Problem is townRobz does that sort of scummy thing all the time. Don't get me wrong, my Robz read right now is town, but I'm frustrated by it. Because there's not that much helpful to it that I see (yet).

[nkirbit]

Yuma, what do you think about robz and Voltaire immediately voting for me after you posted your case?  Are you worried about their votes on me?

[mail-mi]

Am i still on Nk? If I am, I like yuma's case and would like to keep my vote there.

Can we have a vote count plz?

[Robz888]

Yuma:  I don't see why you see a trend in me that you don't see in Robz.  Both Robz and I voted for mcmc, for the exact same reason, one post after the other.

I voted for mail-mi after you had, and Robz voted for myself after you had.

I voted for Chairs after Robz had, but Robz hadn't voted until I had applied some pressure on him and made it clear that I was suspicious of what he was saying.  I guess it's important that Robz voted before I did, but I think you're incorrect in saying that there's a trend for me where there isn't for Robz.  We're both acting in a similar way.

Which makes me suspicious of Robz for finding me suspicious for something he himself is doing.  Hm.

What are you even saying? I don't get this at all. You didn't pressure me to do anything. I don't care what you want me to do.

[Robz888]

Yuma, what do you think about robz and Voltaire immediately voting for me after you posted your case?  Are you worried about their votes on me?

Leading questions like this are SO SO scummy. "Yuma, I need to refocus you away from my wagon, can I call your attention to these other people, criticize them on these (semi-sensible) grounds, and pique your interest? If so, tell me, so that I can continue. If not, disregard, and I will find some other method of courting your support. Regards, nkribt."

[spiritbears]

Yuma, what do you think about robz and Voltaire immediately voting for me after you posted your case?  Are you worried about their votes on me?

Leading questions like this are SO SO scummy. "Yuma, I need to refocus you away from my wagon, can I call your attention to these other people, criticize them on these (semi-sensible) grounds, and pique your interest? If so, tell me, so that I can continue. If not, disregard, and I will find some other method of courting your support. Regards, nkribt."

It's a legit question which you obviously dont want answered

[nkirbit]

Yuma, what do you think about robz and Voltaire immediately voting for me after you posted your case?  Are you worried about their votes on me?

Leading questions like this are SO SO scummy. "Yuma, I need to refocus you away from my wagon, can I call your attention to these other people, criticize them on these (semi-sensible) grounds, and pique your interest? If so, tell me, so that I can continue. If not, disregard, and I will find some other method of courting your support. Regards, nkribt."

Would you rather me bend over?

[nkirbit]

Yuma:  I don't see why you see a trend in me that you don't see in Robz.  Both Robz and I voted for mcmc, for the exact same reason, one post after the other.

I voted for mail-mi after you had, and Robz voted for myself after you had.

I voted for Chairs after Robz had, but Robz hadn't voted until I had applied some pressure on him and made it clear that I was suspicious of what he was saying.  I guess it's important that Robz voted before I did, but I think you're incorrect in saying that there's a trend for me where there isn't for Robz.  We're both acting in a similar way.

Which makes me suspicious of Robz for finding me suspicious for something he himself is doing.  Hm.

What are you even saying? I don't get this at all. You didn't pressure me to do anything. I don't care what you want me to do.

The him was chairs there.  I guess that was a little unclear.  I had applied a little pressure to chairs before you had voted for him

[nkirbit]

Here's mail-mi's interactions with me this game.

1. I haven't noticed nkirbit much this game, I'll re-read him.
2. Didn't find anything, but I still find him scummy for lurking
3. I'll vote nkirbit, no new info
(Yuma, robz, Voltaire vote nkirbit for completely unrelated reasons)
4. I like the new reasons on nkirbit, I'll keep my vote there.

Is the fact the he singled out a player for a reread, found nothing, voted him anyway, then steeped another case on that player just a coincidence?  I don't think so.

[Robz888]

Yuma, what do you think about robz and Voltaire immediately voting for me after you posted your case?  Are you worried about their votes on me?

Leading questions like this are SO SO scummy. "Yuma, I need to refocus you away from my wagon, can I call your attention to these other people, criticize them on these (semi-sensible) grounds, and pique your interest? If so, tell me, so that I can continue. If not, disregard, and I will find some other method of courting your support. Regards, nkribt."

It's a legit question which you obviously dont want answered

It's the way he asked it. If nkirbit wants to make the argument that mine and Voltaire's votes are scummy, he should just go ahead and argue it, rather than first testing to see if yuma could be amenable to that argument.

[Robz888]

Here's mail-mi's interactions with me this game.

1. I haven't noticed nkirbit much this game, I'll re-read him.
2. Didn't find anything, but I still find him scummy for lurking
3. I'll vote nkirbit, no new info
(Yuma, robz, Voltaire vote nkirbit for completely unrelated reasons)
4. I like the new reasons on nkirbit, I'll keep my vote there.

Is the fact the he singled out a player for a reread, found nothing, voted him anyway, then steeped another case on that player just a coincidence?  I don't think so.

Okay, that also looks scummy to me. Well, more lazy than scummy. But lazy could be scummy.

[nkirbit]

If it was anyone other than mail-mi, I would say scummy for sure. I can't be sure with him, I would lean scummy though.

[Voltaire]

nkirbit has acquitted himself well to his wagon. At the moment I no longer plan on re-voting nkirbit.

[Robz888]

nkirbit has acquitted himself well to his wagon. At the moment I no longer plan on re-voting nkirbit.

In what was he? Again, I think this...

Yuma, what do you think about robz and Voltaire immediately voting for me after you posted your case?  Are you worried about their votes on me?

... is the absolute scummiest way you can respond to a wagon against you. He doesn't get angry, he doesn't ignore it, he doesn't refute it, he just quietly looks for a hole to poke. That's what scum do.

[Robz888]

First part should be "in what way has he"

[mail-mi]

Here's mail-mi's interactions with me this game.

1. I haven't noticed nkirbit much this game, I'll re-read him.
2. Didn't find anything, but I still find him scummy for lurking
3. I'll vote nkirbit, no new info
(Yuma, robz, Voltaire vote nkirbit for completely unrelated reasons)
4. I like the new reasons on nkirbit, I'll keep my vote there.

Is the fact the he singled out a player for a reread, found nothing, voted him anyway, then steeped another case on that player just a coincidence?  I don't think so.

It was because I didn't tnitice you as much as usual. I thought that sligHtly scummy, so I voted. After Yuma made Tye case (which provided more evidence) I kept My vote on you. What's so scummy about that?

[Voltaire]

nkirbit has acquitted himself well to his wagon. At the moment I no longer plan on re-voting nkirbit.

In what was he? Again, I think this...

Yuma, what do you think about robz and Voltaire immediately voting for me after you posted your case?  Are you worried about their votes on me?

... is the absolute scummiest way you can respond to a wagon against you. He doesn't get angry, he doesn't ignore it, he doesn't refute it, he just quietly looks for a hole to poke. That's what scum do.

Actually, in my experience, scum gets frustrated. Not mad, not angry, not panic-y (well, some bad scum do), just frustrated. And I'm not seeing that with nkirbit. It's legit to ask the question he did. It's also legit for yuma to say, I have no problem with their (yours and my) votes.

I don't trust your scum reads quite as much, Robz, since you seem to have an awful lot of them and tend to be awfully certain of them. Scummy!=scum, basically.

[nkirbit]

It's awfully coincidental, don't you think, mail-mi?

As to your point, Robz, I can see why you think that is scummy.  I wanted Yuma's opinion on something, because he seems to be the only other person here (where the heck are lio and mcmc, by the way?)  The question involves Voltaire and Robz, and SB had already made his opinion on the matter clear.

But do you really believe I wanted to distract you guys from the case on me?  I assume that you all can handle multiple questions at once.  If I'm wrong, let me know, but if you think I thought that I would be able to distract players such as yourself and Yuma, you're wrong.  I don't think I could do that, and I wasn't trying to.  I was just asking a question.

[Voltaire]

We haven't heard from lio in awhile. Other than that I think everyone's checked in recently...right?