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[BitTorrent]

No I do not mean a real, physical puzzle, that is nonsense anyway 

It is just the similar kind of things like the dominion puzzle thread, tricky question...sort of.

So let me starts with...

Monument
-If you would tuck 6 cards or score 6 cards in a turn

How to accomplish, with any single color, both by tucking and scoring:
Red;
Yellow;
Green;
Blue;
Purple;

All of them 2x5 = 10 methods;

hints: some of them may require the echoes set to accomplish.

[dondon151]

Are the answers exhaustive? Like, with red, both Metalworking and Industrialization can achieve Monument off the top of my head, and though I'm not familiar with Echoes cards, I'm almost certain that there should be more ways with red...

[BitTorrent]

Are the answers exhaustive? Like, with red, both Metalworking and Industrialization can achieve Monument off the top of my head, and though I'm not familiar with Echoes cards, I'm almost certain that there should be more ways with red...

Some of them are easier, some of them are more tricky. Multiple answer exists in some of the case, too.

The borderline is: if you go with a draw and meld and execute effect you can only meld a card of the original color which you are working on.

[Thisisnotasmile]

Completely off topic, but something that's come up a couple of times and bothered me:

When scoring your whole hand through bicycle, isotropic doesn't award Monument and I always expect it to. Is this right?

[Hideyoshi]

Actually, I do not understand the question at all.....

what do you mean by single color by claiming monument...?

Completely off topic, but something that's come up a couple of times and bothered me:

When scoring your whole hand through bicycle, isotropic doesn't award Monument and I always expect it to. Is this right?

It is right. Bicycle is exchange but not score. You cannot claim Monument by bicycle.

[WinterSpartan]

Cards able to achieve Monument in the base game:

Red: Metalworking (scoring), Colonialism (tucking), Industrialization (tucking)

Yellow: Masonry (melding), Perspective (scoring), Canning (scoring), Suburbia (tucking and scoring), Stem Cells (scoring)

Green: Clothing (scoring), Currency (scoring)

Blue: Genetics (scoring)

Purple: Reformation (tucking), Lighting (tucking and scoring), Socialism (tucking)

So I also am not sure what you mean... I'm sure echoes adds several more options, but there are 14 cards you can hit once or twice in a turn to achieve Monument just in the base game. If you want both a "tucking" and a "scoring" option for each color, then for Blue Lightning Rod can do it by tucking (though only if Perfume's echo effect is visible below) and Nylon provides sufficient tucking for Green. Clarification of the question would help though.

[palangus]

Completely off topic, but something that's come up a couple of times and bothered me:

When scoring your whole hand through bicycle, isotropic doesn't award Monument and I always expect it to. Is this right?

No. Scoring a card is different than exchanging cards between your hand and score pile.

It's just like how chancellor doesn't trigger Tunnel.

[WinterSpartan]

I'm actually curious as to whether Engineering could trigger Monument - "I demand you transfer cards to my score pile". I suspect that that doesn't strictly count as scoring, but I'm not 100% sure.

[Jimmmmm]

Completely off topic, but something that's come up a couple of times and bothered me:

When scoring your whole hand through bicycle, isotropic doesn't award Monument and I always expect it to. Is this right?

Yeah, it's got me a couple of times. I think it's kind of like Chancellor puts your deck into your discard pile, but it doesn't "discard" it (which is important for the sake of Tunnel). In the same way, Bicycle and any other "exchange" or "transfer" that puts things into your score pile doesn't "score" them. In fact, you only "score" something when it says "score" (verb) on the dogma effect.

[Jimmmmm]

I'm actually curious as to whether Engineering could trigger Monument - "I demand you transfer cards to my score pile". I suspect that that doesn't strictly count as scoring, but I'm not 100% sure.

No, transferring cards to you score pile is different to scoring them.

On a different note, and I think I think I know the answer - for Monument you need to score 6 or tuck 6, right? You can't for example score 3 and tuck 3? Nevermind,  just needed to actually read the card.

[BitTorrent]

Right, since most people do understand the first one, here is the next one:

Assume I am playing a base only game with Hideyoshi, the score is tight and there is only achievement age 9 left. I don't have enough scores to achieve it but I do have Satellites which is an age9 card. I have a sole majority of clock lead so I don't have to share it to him, so I execute it.

But it turns out that I lose the game and later we find out that no-matter what I do that turn I will lose the game(in my turn or in his next turn) anyway.

So what kind of scenerio it is? 

[Thisisnotasmile]

Right, since most people do understand the first one, here is the next one:

Assume I am playing a base only game with Hideyoshi, the score is tight and there is only achievement age 9 left. I don't have enough scores to achieve it but I do have Satellites which is an age9 card. I have a sole majority of clock lead so I don't have to share it to him, so I execute it.

But it turns out that I lose the game and later we find out that no-matter what I do that turn I will lose the game(in my turn or in his next turn) anyway.

So what kind of scenerio it is? 

There are no 8s, 9s, or 10s left in the supply (or in your hand). When you activate Satellites you attempt to draw an 11 and lose on score.

[BitTorrent]

Right, since most people do understand the first one, here is the next one:

Assume I am playing a base only game with Hideyoshi, the score is tight and there is only achievement age 9 left. I don't have enough scores to achieve it but I do have Satellites which is an age9 card. I have a sole majority of clock lead so I don't have to share it to him, so I execute it.

But it turns out that I lose the game and later we find out that no-matter what I do that turn I will lose the game(in my turn or in his next turn) anyway.

So what kind of scenerio it is? 

There are no 8s, 9s, or 10s left in the supply (or in your hand). When you activate Satellites you attempt to draw an 11 and lose on score.

Hmm....must tell you that this is not the correct answer because this is just too foolish to do such thing, say drawing 3 8's when there are not enough cards for me to draw anyway.

The puzzle is a bit more deeper than this since most scenario involving drawing can be concluded with 'age decks are empty'...

[timchen]

Right, since most people do understand the first one, here is the next one:

I thought I don't quite understand the first one (similar to a few posts above)... But I thought the goal of making a puzzle is to at least make it understandable?

So here, one simple scenario is that what you draw with satellites cannot help you achieve and Hideyoshi can achieve age 9 in his next turn which will win him the game. Or just he had something unstoppable on his board, via various special achievements or instant-win cards. This is pretty general so probably is not what you were asking.

It can be that you draw 3 instant-win cards that work for both players (bioengineering, globalization, some echoes) and you have to execute it that will cost you the game. And if you don't he can also draw-meld-execute.

[theory]

I mean, there are a lot of possibilities.  Hideyoshi is ahead on score and can claim [9].  There are only four 8's in the pile: Skyscrapers, Quantum Theory (not enough to get you to claiming [9]), Mobility, and Flight.  You have no hand and no draw-and-meld abilities.  You basically only draw useless cards.

[popsofctown]

Right, since most people do understand the first one, here is the next one:

Assume I am playing a base only game with Hideyoshi, the score is tight and there is only achievement age 9 left. I don't have enough scores to achieve it but I do have Satellites which is an age9 card. I have a sole majority of clock lead so I don't have to share it to him, so I execute it.

But it turns out that I lose the game and later we find out that no-matter what I do that turn I will lose the game(in my turn or in his next turn) anyway.

So what kind of scenerio it is? 

There are no 8s, 9s, or 10s left in the supply (or in your hand). When you activate Satellites you attempt to draw an 11 and lose on score.

Hmm....must tell you that this is not the correct answer because this is just too foolish to do such thing, say drawing 3 8's when there are not enough cards for me to draw anyway.

The puzzle is a bit more deeper than this since most scenario involving drawing can be concluded with 'age decks are empty'...

It's equally foolish to play Satellites when cardcounting can tell you for certain it is a losing move..

[timchen]

He probably meant that "given how the cards are dealt" playing Satellites is a losing move...