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Re: How do you guys not get bored?
« Reply #125 on: May 05, 2013, 08:29:02 am »
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traditional, simplified, japanese, korean, moonrunes...

it's all the same to these white folk ;)
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Re: How do you guys not get bored?
« Reply #126 on: May 05, 2013, 10:35:20 am »
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traditional, simplified, japanese, korean, moonrunes...

it's all the same to these white folk ;)
Except Magic players.
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Re: How do you guys not get bored?
« Reply #127 on: May 05, 2013, 11:46:35 am »
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Hey, I'm American, and I can tell the difference between Chinese and Japanese!

And that doesn't have anything to do with that I'm learning Japanese...
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Re: How do you guys not get bored?
« Reply #128 on: May 05, 2013, 01:13:46 pm »
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Hey, I'm American, and I can tell the difference between Chinese and Japanese!

And that doesn't have anything to do with that I'm learning Japanese...

Japanese uses some Chinese.
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Re: How do you guys not get bored?
« Reply #129 on: May 05, 2013, 03:11:20 pm »
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Hey, I'm American, and I can tell the difference between Chinese and Japanese!

And that doesn't have anything to do with that I'm learning Japanese...

Japanese uses some Chinese.

But when I see writing I can see the Japanese only writing (hiragana or katakana) when it's Japanese and not when it's Chinese.
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Re: How do you guys not get bored?
« Reply #130 on: May 06, 2013, 03:31:13 am »
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Hm found Ooksoo (playing in WorkshopIII) he has a rating about 4900 now so his account wasnt deleted or anything.

and he played a pro game there. ;)

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Re: How do you guys not get bored?
« Reply #131 on: May 06, 2013, 04:27:38 am »
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Well, if they reset his account, fixed the exploit and he starts playing legit, maybe we can give him a second chance.
Only after apologies of course.
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Re: How do you guys not get bored?
« Reply #132 on: May 06, 2013, 05:02:21 am »
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i'm not sure that this kind of exploit is really fixable. Even on Iso you could game the leaderboard. I cannot think of a reasonable way of protecting the leaderboard from beeing gamed.

For instance i spent last week in researching bots behaviour in playing Stefs Dominion Academy set against them a couple of times.

As a result all of a sudden i'm Nr. 3 in the unranked leaderboard. Did i game the system? In a way yes. It was nothing i planned to do, but it happened.

Funny thing is after a while i started getting more and more points for a win against the bots. Maybe the rating calculation from goko also honors long winning streaks. I kept receiving 30-50 points from a win against a sub 4000 bot, even though my rating was 6300+.

That might be a point to tackle. After a certain rating, you should not receive any rating points for playing a bot anymore. It just makes no sense. This treshhold should be somewhere between 5.000 and 6.000. So you can get a respectable rating, but can't game the system.

I'm not sure if all that is also true for the pro leaderboard. I never managed to have a 50+ winning streak there, and i don't play bots in pro mode, because there is always a human waiting to jump into a game of mine.
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Re: How do you guys not get bored?
« Reply #133 on: May 06, 2013, 03:03:00 pm »
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The solution is there to be a persistent threat of manual game review/account block.  You cheat, we'll ban you and keep your money.  Keep a healthy sense of fear in players.
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Re: How do you guys not get bored?
« Reply #134 on: May 06, 2013, 03:07:52 pm »
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That's only reasonable if there's a clear set of rules/legal agreement that players have to agree to as to what constitutes cheating. It's not like he hacked the system. He just played his hundreds of imaginary friends over and over again. I don't remember clicking "I Agree" on a page that said I wouldn't do that.
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Re: How do you guys not get bored?
« Reply #135 on: May 06, 2013, 03:32:40 pm »
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This thread is an instant classic!
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Re: How do you guys not get bored?
« Reply #136 on: May 06, 2013, 04:23:01 pm »
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This thread is an instant classic!
Indeed, 7 of the top 10 posts this week are in this thread.

I should probably have mistaken the forum in some other thread. ;D
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Re: How do you guys not get bored?
« Reply #137 on: May 07, 2013, 02:40:54 pm »
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I just played a pro game against ooksoo and lost :(
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Re: How do you guys not get bored?
« Reply #138 on: May 07, 2013, 02:59:59 pm »
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I just played a pro game against ooksoo and lost :(

So he's good enough to hold his own on the leaderboard, but he had to play some dummy games to secure #1.

Oh well, sounds like he's at least not a crappy player.
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Re: How do you guys not get bored?
« Reply #139 on: May 07, 2013, 03:06:03 pm »
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I just played a pro game against ooksoo and lost :(

No, you have to always beat him, for your honor!
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Re: How do you guys not get bored?
« Reply #140 on: May 08, 2013, 05:21:28 am »
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My record is 2-0-0 now with one unrated and one pro game. The first game, we played very similar (and chose the right strategy, I believe). In the second, he started potion/hermit on a scrying pool, golem board w/o +buy while I went for stables/BM with one hermit (5/2 start).
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Re: How do you guys not get bored?
« Reply #141 on: May 08, 2013, 01:07:04 pm »
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I played ooksoo yesterday.  It was our first game, I believe, despite this puzzling claim: http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=8017.msg235659#msg235659.  I immediately regretted playing him and I'll avoid him in the future.

While it's hard to be morally outraged that someone would scam an online board game, it does irk me that he's pretending nothing ever happened.  No apology, no self-justification... the guy didn't even bother to change his Goko username.

Anyway, he played the early game well and snapped up some early Provinces and the Tournament prizes.  But then tried to piledrive Provinces, ignoring Colonies, Platinums, and Grand Markets, and ground to a halt after Province 5 or 6.

would have got highest on pro long time ago if plat/colony is available, actually this is how i see it
casual = plat/colony with shelter,

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Re: How do you guys not get bored?
« Reply #142 on: May 08, 2013, 02:22:40 pm »
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I don't think I would accept games with him.
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Re: How do you guys not get bored?
« Reply #143 on: May 08, 2013, 02:40:51 pm »
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I don't think I would accept games with him.

I wouldn't as things stand now. I would in the future, though, if he showed signs of remorse and having matured.
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Re: How do you guys not get bored?
« Reply #144 on: May 08, 2013, 02:52:41 pm »
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I don't think I would accept games with him.

Because it would suck to loose?


Seriously, though, I wouldn't enter his game, but I'm not sure I'd kick him out of one of mine.
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Re: How do you guys not get bored?
« Reply #145 on: May 08, 2013, 03:22:04 pm »
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I don't think I would accept games with him.

Because it would suck to loose?


Seriously, though, I wouldn't enter his game, but I'm not sure I'd kick him out of one of mine.

No, because I can't trust that he wouldn't be looking for a way to cheat. I have no problem losing to him fairly.
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Re: How do you guys not get bored?
« Reply #146 on: May 10, 2013, 10:21:00 pm »
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I found him online and just played a game.  Sea Hag + Island + Saboteur.  I won 16-12.  He had like 2000 points on me in rating, but I only gained 150 or so when I beat him.  Boo.
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Re: How do you guys not get bored?
« Reply #147 on: May 10, 2013, 11:10:18 pm »
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I found him online and just played a game.  Sea Hag + Island + Saboteur.  I won 16-12.  He had like 2000 points on me in rating, but I only gained 150 or so when I beat him.  Boo.

That's really a huge, huge swing for an Elo or TS based rating system.  They really like their ratings to shift everywhere.
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Re: How do you guys not get bored?
« Reply #148 on: May 11, 2013, 05:39:22 am »
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"only gained 150 or so"

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Re: How do you guys not get bored?
« Reply #149 on: May 11, 2013, 11:09:45 am »
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I found him online and just played a game.  Sea Hag + Island + Saboteur.  I won 16-12.  He had like 2000 points on me in rating, but I only gained 150 or so when I beat him.  Boo.

Casual or pro? I've found point swings on casual mode bigger than on pro mode. If pro mode:

"only gained 150 or so"

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