Okay, I've thought about it some. First, there's something that twistedarcher has mentioned a couple of times that was tickling at the back of my brain. Particularly regarding how there's some contradiction about xeiron where we have said "he's crazy for X, but wouldn't do Y because that would be crazy". I think that's false. If xeiron is scum, I don't see any of his actions as counter-intuitive. Here's my "scum-narrative" for xeiron:
-xeiron goes along trying to appear pro-town without doing much. But gets called out for his play, and comes under pressure.
-He decides that his best bet to get out from pressure is to make an outlandish claim about a crazy plan that can buy him at least a couple days. To lend the most credulity to his claim, he puts a no lynch with it, because it makes it seem less scummy. He does this hoping to remind people of his town-play in Shakespeare.
-While voting no lynch, he's not really pushing town cases, partner Eevee comes under attack. He sees the alternative lynches, figures any of them would be alright, makes a one-shot cop claim clearing Eevee. This is somewhat risky, because there might be another cop, but one-shot cop claims for town-cred are feasible (hence he's not directly outing his partner), and he figures if he can get a cop lynched it would be worth it. After all, he's established a strong town-read from other players. (Note: there are alternative explanations, including that he did do it for pure town-cred. I find those less likely, but not impossible.).
-He starts a wagon on mail-mi in hopes that AHoppy will go through without his support, thereby completing his town-cred grabbing for the day.
-Today he finds scum in a pretty good position, needs something to continue his "crazy" plan, and decides that the best way to do so is request a mass-claim. Worst case scenario, he gives good direction to his partners by showing where all the best items are, best case scenario he can make up something for his plan to frame a townie.
None of this requires xeiron to be a crazy player, it requires him to be a smart scum-player looking to build off of his town-meta. Anyways, if AHoppy was scum, then xeiron would have to be crazy. I don't think xeiron is that crazy, therefore I think that IF xeiron is scum, AHoppy is town.
Anyways, it's also possible that xeiron is town, and is just playing a typical anti-town townie game of keeping information secret, being confusing, and not sharing because he's paranoid that once the info is out there scum will take advantage of it. I don't LIKE that kind of play, because it's anti-town, and I just generally think an unwillingness to share a strategy is foolish, a strategy that will fail once scum knows about it has likely already failed. That's more generally just not in my make-up for how to play games, you don't keep strategies secret, you keep information secret. (See Mage Knight 1 where I give strategic advice to other players, and pops reprimands me for it
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@xeiron: you need to adjust your strategy. I can already tell you it's flawed. It's flawed because it requires everyone to trust you, and everyone doesn't trust you. There's a huge gaping flaw in your strategy, and it needs to be amended. IF you cannot execute your strategy without the trust of the entire town, and your strategy does not include a way to gain the trust of the entire town, then it fails. It is NOT a game-winning strategy.
Everyone but you is opposed to a mass-claim. (if you're town) Either you have some information that makes the claim far better than everyone thinks it will be, or you have some strategy that makes it far better than everyone thinks, or you're just WRONG and it will actually make things worse. Either you explain why it makes things better, or you console yourself to the fact that you're not getting your way, and try and formulate a new strategy that will actually work.
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