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Vote Count 3.2:

Galzria (1): Galzria

Not Voting (4): Mcmcsalot, Robz888, Xeiron, Ashersky

With 5 alive it takes 3 to lynch. Deadline has been moved to Noon on Sunday for memorial day weekend.

[mcmcsalot]

Yup I'm scum because I came back and care, robz is town because he is not helping at all, ash made that terrible argument in my favor just a bit ago, and it's still a terrible argument. Last blitz game I was town and almost lynched at deadline and I was posting like crazy, both scum were offline. People's availability doesn't = alignment.

[Galzria]

Yup I'm scum because I came back and care, robz is town because he is not helping at all, ash made that terrible argument in my favor just a bit ago, and it's still a terrible argument. Last blitz game I was town and almost lynched at deadline and I was posting like crazy, both scum were offline. People's availability doesn't = alignment.

Nope. But I've never talked about availability. I've talked about participation. But whatever, you're scum, and that's ok. It's ok to say "Hi, my name's mcmc, I'm scum and I have a problem'. Don't worry. We won't make fun of you here.

[xeiron]

Ash, listen to me:

Lynch me now, and lynch mcmc tomorrow. If you lynch Robz, you're a fool. He's not scum and we both know it. READ mcmc's posts. Read them from a perspective that he's scum. It's so damn obvious it hurts. The easiest way for me to convince you that I'm town and seeing this (and not scum and claiming this) is to lynch me - and with our mislynch available this is possible. So lynch me, get my flip and lynch mcmc tomorrow.

Why so sure?
I could see robz as someone who would experiment to find out just how much you could lurk as scum.

[Galzria]

Ash, listen to me:

Lynch me now, and lynch mcmc tomorrow. If you lynch Robz, you're a fool. He's not scum and we both know it. READ mcmc's posts. Read them from a perspective that he's scum. It's so damn obvious it hurts. The easiest way for me to convince you that I'm town and seeing this (and not scum and claiming this) is to lynch me - and with our mislynch available this is possible. So lynch me, get my flip and lynch mcmc tomorrow.

Why so sure?
I could see robz as someone who would experiment to find out just how much you could lurk as scum.

You're treating Robz like he's new. Or like this is his first rodeo. There's no need for him to "experiment" as anything. I've played mafia with him here for over a year. BM. ZM. RMM. Every type under the sun. Robz doesn't need or want to "test" anything. He's mega-lurked as scum. He's mega-lurked as town. Each has their different types of attitude though. This is town!lurk Robz.

Robz town meta aside, this is so blatantly scum!mcmc it hurts. I don't know how anybody would have difficulty seeing it. I mean, I really don't care to die first, just make sure it's not in vain. Lynch mcmc next so town still wins.

[mcmcsalot]

Let this hit deadline, no lynch is worse for town than town lynch, if galz pulls his vote he's scum we no lynch and win tomorrow.

[Galzria]

Let this hit deadline, no lynch is worse for town than town lynch, if galz pulls his vote he's scum we no lynch and win tomorrow.

So why are we wasting time? That's so ridiculous. "Let's just time out, that way Galz is lynched. And if he unvotes himself, lynch him tomorrow!"

.... Dude, freaking lynch me now. Why wait? All you're doing is trying to make yourself sound all nice and townie. "Look what a great townie idea I'm having!". But there's nothing there except a lot of wasted time. I'm not moving my vote, so you might as well save everybody 2 days of sitting on their asses. Lynch me, and then they can lynch you.

[xeiron]

I have to agree that lynching Galzria seems to be the best we can do today.
vote: Galzria

Ash, do you agree with a Galzria lynch?

[Galzria]

Hammer it out Ash. Just don't back off lynching mcmc tomorrow.

Also, remember to ask for a prod of Robz. You'll need his vote to take out mcmc. Xeiron, don't be stupid tomorrow. While I'm addressing Ash, in all likelyhood mcmc has set to kill him already. So you and Robz will be the two town alive. If you listen to mcmc and lynch Robz instead I'll be really pissed off.

[liopoil]

Are you asking for a prod on robz888 now?

[Galzria]

Are you asking for a prod on robz888 now?

No need. I'd rather he be prodded to come back when needed most! Ha! You can, sure.

[Galzria]

For those keeping track at home:

- Galzria cannot be scum, because actively advocating and pushing his own lynch results in his loss if he is. Those who know Galzria know that he always plays to win.

- Robz cannot be scum because ultimate!lurk Robz cannot win as scum. When Robz lurks as scum he's still around often enough to plant his vote. He has to be. Completely absent Robz is town Robz. If it comes down to X/Y/Robz, and he hasn't been around to vote, how can he hope to win? Y can only ever accumulate 1 vote, as can X. Robz is the only viable lynch at that point. Ultimate!Lurk Robz simply cannot win as scum.

- Mcmc is scum. The only thing he's cared about is lining up lynches. At first it was Robz, but then he jumped at the chance to push my self-vote. He knows Robz is town and knows pushing his lynch tomorrow will be easy. Town!mcmc recognizes that Galzria losses playing this way as scum and refuses to support the lynch. Scum!mcmc doesn't care and just wants the free lynch.

[mcmcsalot]

For those keeping track at home:

- Galzria cannot be scum, because actively advocating and pushing his own lynch results in his loss if he is. Those who know Galzria know that he always plays to win.

- Robz cannot be scum because ultimate!lurk Robz cannot win as scum. When Robz lurks as scum he's still around often enough to plant his vote. He has to be. Completely absent Robz is town Robz. If it comes down to X/Y/Robz, and he hasn't been around to vote, how can he hope to win? Y can only ever accumulate 1 vote, as can X. Robz is the only viable lynch at that point. Ultimate!Lurk Robz simply cannot win as scum.

- Mcmc is scum. The only thing he's cared about is lining up lynches. At first it was Robz, but then he jumped at the chance to push my self-vote. He knows Robz is town and knows pushing his lynch tomorrow will be easy. Town!mcmc recognizes that Galzria losses playing this way as scum and refuses to support the lynch. Scum!mcmc doesn't care and just wants the free lynch.

Wrong wrong wrong, I want robz lynched its the smart choice because making a decision between the two people actually posting is a million times easier. Robz could be scum, if he is and he wins it was a great plan. All you are arguing is robz would never carry out that plan as scum, it is a possible thing to do and if he wins its smart. You are the one who did not care about who was lynched, you wanted to do no scum hunting because convincing ash/x you were town was all you needed to do(true if your scum or town) but then you decided I had to be scum ad robz could t be scum so you self vote?(this is where I don't get it, even if town!galz thinks I'm scum why not try to get me lynched. Why not lynch robz and hope you can convince them of my scummyness, why want to lynch you and leave them with a hard decision) So you jumped up in my eyes as the remaining scum. I think your voting yourself is to look townie as you have said and will convince them not to lynch you. If you are town give a better argument then mcmc is obvi scum robz is obvi town the more information the better. Hence why we should be making cases and lynching robz.

[Galzria]

Robz cannot win by not playing. End of story. There's no "it's smart play if he does". He CAN'T. Because once it's down to 3 players neither of the two remaining town can die! Robz ONLY wins by playing.

But it really doesn't matter. You know he's town and will argue anything to get him lynched. Your point is do wrong it's funny though.

[Galzria]

And there's no other argument needed. It's so freaking obvious Robz cannot be scum, no matter what you want to argue. It's impossible for him to win if he's scum and chooses not to play. EVERY other time he's lurked as scum he's had enough awareness to realize he needs to be present to at least vote - and he has. If he doesn't, it is impossible for him to win. Impossible.

Robz is as obvtown as is possible to be. Lynching me makes the decision tomorrow 100x easier, not harder. The only question for the IC's is which between you and I are scum. Once I flip town it's game over, town wins.

[Robz888]

Ok im here, let me catch up. This is a really busy weekend for me, I have my parents in town visiting me and we are seeing the sights. Sorry about that, though, I know I'm probably dooming the town via inaction. Let me read...

[Robz888]

Wow. Interesting game!

[Robz888]

Uh, I do agree that mcmc is probably scum, not Galz.

[Robz888]

Let me show you something...

[Robz888]

Right before that TA lynch, mcmc pops in, and it looks to me like TA is advising him from a scum-scum perspective.

Ahh, I am here rereading. I'm caught up. So the three were TA ash and who?

Ahh, I am here rereading. I'm caught up. So the three were TA ash and who?

I'd say save me, but we'd be stuck at 3 vs 3 then. And any lynch is better than a no lynch, even if it's me...

If mcmc had voted for xeiron, and it was a 3-3 split, would that have been No Lynch? What would have happened there? Because obviously mcmc wants to not have TA lynched if they are scum together. I mean it kind of looks to me like they were trying to work that out--a tad too publicly--what was best and what was even possible.

[Robz888]

WAIT. Can the scum chat privately?

[Robz888]

They can. Hmm.

[Robz888]

Ehhh, I still say it's gotta be mcmc. If it's Galz, I mean, Galz knows he still has to face someone tomorrow. And then, let's say it's me and him, well he's going to say, "No, it can't be me, I was ready to die, I volunteered for lynch!" And I'm going to say, "That was obviously a scum gambit," and the other townies are going to believe me, probably. Therefore, I think it's sincere. Therefore, Vote: mcmcsalot

[mcmcsalot]

Surprise robz is here you mean if he's scum he could win??! vote: robz

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Vote Count 3.3:

Galzria (2): Galzria, Xeiron
Mcmcsalot (1): Robz888
Robz888 (1): Mcmcsalot

Not Voting (1): Ashersky

With 5 alive it takes 3 to lynch. Deadline is Sunday at noon forum time