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Re: a fascinating puzzle game
« Reply #75 on: April 07, 2013, 08:44:27 pm »
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Quote from: eHalcyon on April 07, 2013, 08:36:09 pm
Does the order of the outputs matter?  I think I have the correct outputs for level 37, but I'm not getting credit for it.  The only differences are in ordering.  For example, the expected output is "red yellow" but I get "yellow red".  I never noticed it mattering before.

I just changed it such that it actually does the right order too (costing me like 10 extra tiles) but this one bugs out even more.  After the run completes, it changes the top display to a completely different example input and expected output.

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Trying to export solutions...

Here is the one that has a differing order:
http://xorballs.dskl.net/#3,direction,[3,main:05614015825J30731832435541044748a053663H738740835],[0,%3C:22023032I35137142143145A460470520530561571]

Here is the one with the right order that bugs into a different example:
http://xorballs.dskl.net/#3,direction,[1,main%20copy:04J05614015825H30731832435541044748a253663G73874083584H],[2,%3C%20copy:20021027028030H33135138I40141143A440450471481500510541551570580]

The bug in the second one looks like what happens when I change the tiles during a run.
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Re: a fascinating puzzle game
« Reply #76 on: April 07, 2013, 08:53:54 pm »
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Order matters on 37.
Description mentions colours preceding other colours.
Took me a while to figure out the 2nd Input.
I think it is testing the Blue / Blue pair.
To check which of them is "real" and which is the direction indicator.
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« Reply #77 on: April 07, 2013, 08:59:26 pm »
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Here is the one with the right order that bugs into a different example:
http://xorballs.dskl.net/#3,direction,[1,main%20copy:04J05614015825H30731832435541044748a253663G73874083584H],[2,%3C%20copy:20021027028030H33135138I40141143A440450471481500510541551570580]

The bug in the second one looks like what happens when I change the tiles during a run.

This is failing on Blue from the right.
I think it needs to solve for all inputs from the description.
Not just the example inputs listed.
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Re: a fascinating puzzle game
« Reply #78 on: April 07, 2013, 09:02:18 pm »
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What description?  If you mean the image, I can't always decipher what it's looking for...
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« Reply #79 on: April 07, 2013, 09:03:34 pm »
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Mouse over the image top left.
Should get a description.
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Re: a fascinating puzzle game
« Reply #80 on: April 07, 2013, 09:13:22 pm »
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Quote from: Rabid on April 07, 2013, 09:03:34 pm
Mouse over the image top left.
Should get a description.

Why must it be so difficult. :(
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Re: a fascinating puzzle game
« Reply #81 on: April 07, 2013, 09:14:16 pm »
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If you want to test the blue ball from the left, you can do a custom input. Just change the input color to not blue so you'll actually know which is the "real" blue one.
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Re: a fascinating puzzle game
« Reply #82 on: April 07, 2013, 09:18:20 pm »
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Quote from: jonts26 on April 07, 2013, 09:14:16 pm
If you want to test the blue ball from the left, you can do a custom input. Just change the input color to not blue so you'll actually know which is the "real" blue one.

Didn't even realize you could do custom inputs.  Neat!

Well, I just have to figure out how to delay balls coming in from the left so that the yellow goes out first...
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Re: a fascinating puzzle game
« Reply #83 on: April 07, 2013, 09:27:37 pm »
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Quote from: Axxle on April 07, 2013, 05:37:29 am
Quote from: David on April 07, 2013, 05:33:33 am
@Axxle, you can. Go to the previous level, press Ctrl+C. Go to the new level, press Ctrl+V. The solution should be inserted as a custom tile.
This makes me happy.
I haven't been able to try this until today.  I haven't been able to get it to work.
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Re: a fascinating puzzle game
« Reply #84 on: April 07, 2013, 09:32:22 pm »
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Quote from: Axxle on April 07, 2013, 09:27:37 pm
Quote from: Axxle on April 07, 2013, 05:37:29 am
Quote from: David on April 07, 2013, 05:33:33 am
@Axxle, you can. Go to the previous level, press Ctrl+C. Go to the new level, press Ctrl+V. The solution should be inserted as a custom tile.
This makes me happy.
I haven't been able to try this until today.  I haven't been able to get it to work.

You don't have to select anything.  Just ctrl+C.

And I got 37!  Sweet single star!
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Re: a fascinating puzzle game
« Reply #85 on: April 07, 2013, 09:33:54 pm »
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Nope, trying on firefox, are you using something different?
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Re: a fascinating puzzle game
« Reply #86 on: April 07, 2013, 09:44:48 pm »
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OK, I have a new challenge. On level 1, what's the highest number of tiles you can use and still win? Only rule is each tile must be used at least once. My record is 36.

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EDIT: Got it up to 47. I'm feeling a bit dizzy.  http://tinyurl.com/cnozqzu
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Re: a fascinating puzzle game
« Reply #87 on: April 07, 2013, 10:18:22 pm »
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Hints for 8. Please.
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Re: a fascinating puzzle game
« Reply #88 on: April 07, 2013, 10:23:40 pm »
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Try and find a way to do the two opposite sides that doesn't intrude on the centre area, then mimic it for top and bottom.
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Re: a fascinating puzzle game
« Reply #89 on: April 07, 2013, 10:26:34 pm »
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Quote from: Grujah on April 07, 2013, 10:18:22 pm
Hints for 8. Please.

I'm sure there are a bunch of solutions for 8 which use the minimum number. All of them operate on the principal that 4n-1 lefts make a right. For n = 1,2...
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Re: a fascinating puzzle game
« Reply #90 on: April 07, 2013, 10:39:33 pm »
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Quote from: Tables on April 07, 2013, 10:23:40 pm
Try and find a way to do the two opposite sides that doesn't intrude on the centre area, then mimic it for top and bottom.

My 3-star solution for 8 has no lines of symmetry. :P
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Re: a fascinating puzzle game
« Reply #91 on: April 07, 2013, 11:48:06 pm »
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...My brother just got a 4-star solution.  On level 16.  He used seven tiles.

EDIT: Here's the solution (I can't get the url thing to work, just copy and paste) (Remember, this is spoilers): http://xorballs.dskl.net/#3,up,[0,new:438450538540558638648]
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« Reply #92 on: April 07, 2013, 11:54:14 pm »
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Quote from: sudgy on April 07, 2013, 11:48:06 pm
...My brother just got a 4-star solution.  On level 16.  He used seven tiles.

EDIT: Here's the solution: http://xorballs.dskl.net/#3,up,[0,new:438458538540558638648]

The hyperlink gets screwed up with the brackets. I've been using tinyurl to fix it. More importantly, that solution doesn't seem work.
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« Reply #93 on: April 07, 2013, 11:56:31 pm »
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47 what the heck...
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« Reply #94 on: April 07, 2013, 11:58:45 pm »
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Oops, I copied it from my brother's computer wrong.  It's fixed.
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Re: a fascinating puzzle game
« Reply #95 on: April 08, 2013, 02:11:25 am »
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Brilliant. Currently banging my head against the wall on level 19. I can get a solution but I'm trying for the third star. Best I can do is 12 tiles and I'm stumped on how to reduce that number.
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« Reply #96 on: April 08, 2013, 02:18:29 am »
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Quote from: eHalcyon on April 07, 2013, 11:56:31 pm
47 what the heck...

I think this is where I stop.  That was a nice diversion for the weekend.  47 is weird enough that I can't just mess around and hope to get a clue.  I'll keep it in the back of my mind though...

Edit: aaaaand right after I said that, I figured it out.
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Re: a fascinating puzzle game
« Reply #97 on: April 08, 2013, 02:50:53 am »
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@sudgy, cool! How would your brother like to be credited on http://xorballs.dskl.net/scores.html ?
Also, maybe better hide the solution so others have a chance to do it themselve.

@Axxle, Are you on a Mac? Then it's CMD+C/CMD+V. It's whatever the copy/paste keys are on your operating system.
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« Reply #98 on: April 08, 2013, 02:51:50 am »
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Quote from: Tables on April 07, 2013, 08:35:52 pm
In my browsing I saw the below gif. And it immediately reminded me of Xorballs. How can I game I've played for like two days be affecting me this much already?



That's awesome!
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Re: a fascinating puzzle game
« Reply #99 on: April 08, 2013, 03:16:56 am »
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Right now this...

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http://xorballs.dskl.net/#3,double,[0,new:217228276420477]
...is my solution to 17. It uses 5 tiles and I can't figure out how to do it with 4, could someone help me out?
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