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Re: BMIX: Conspiracy Theories, London Edition (Day 3)
« Reply #550 on: April 08, 2013, 10:57:56 pm »

If we lynch mcmc, and I'm wrong, I think Razzishi and his crazy talk is our best chance at winning.

I think joth is telling the truth about Bomb.  No clue on WW, though.

Sweet, you've said it before I assume you will stand by it, I am a ww, and I am bulletproof. I do not think I will die from your vengekill. That proves my ww with one ww death(if ash is ww which I doubt) instead of lynching me and having two ww deaths(morgrim is ww if I am ww I wouldn't lie). So you are happy sacrificing yourself for ww's

Happily sacrificing?  That's a stretch.  I'm trying to decide if I care about winning more than proving all of you wrong.

VKing Morgrim gives me the satisfaction of killing you, pushing a terrible case on me.  But if you aren't lying by some crazy stretch, then VKing Morgrim hurts my chances of winning.

I'm able to change my VK up my lynch, I'm pretty sure.  I'm undecided, but it's posts like these that stress to me just how terrible a WW you are being this game, if you really are one (which I'm sure you are NOT).
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Re: BMIX: Conspiracy Theories, London Edition (Day 3)
« Reply #551 on: April 08, 2013, 11:00:30 pm »

If we lynch mcmc, and I'm wrong, I think Razzishi and his crazy talk is our best chance at winning.

I think joth is telling the truth about Bomb.  No clue on WW, though.

Sweet, you've said it before I assume you will stand by it, I am a ww, and I am bulletproof. I do not think I will die from your vengekill. That proves my ww with one ww death(if ash is ww which I doubt) instead of lynching me and having two ww deaths(morgrim is ww if I am ww I wouldn't lie). So you are happy sacrificing yourself for ww's

Happily sacrificing?  That's a stretch.  I'm trying to decide if I care about winning more than proving all of you wrong.

VKing Morgrim gives me the satisfaction of killing you, pushing a terrible case on me.  But if you aren't lying by some crazy stretch, then VKing Morgrim hurts my chances of winning.

I'm able to change my VK up my lynch, I'm pretty sure.  I'm undecided, but it's posts like these that stress to me just how terrible a WW you are being this game, if you really are one (which I'm sure you are NOT).

YOUR GOING TO KILL 2 OF THEM AS A VENGEKILL AND I'M THE TERRIBLE WW!
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Re: BMIX: Conspiracy Theories, London Edition (Day 3)
« Reply #552 on: April 08, 2013, 11:01:21 pm »

Techno-free Tuesday for me tomorrow also. I am a WW watcher. I think you all knowcwhat watcher does.
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Re: BMIX: Conspiracy Theories, London Edition (Day 3)
« Reply #553 on: April 08, 2013, 11:01:46 pm »

remember I don't think your a ww, so I am happy to lynch you and watch you fail to nk me with your vengekill because I am a bp ww.
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Re: BMIX: Conspiracy Theories, London Edition (Day 3)
« Reply #554 on: April 08, 2013, 11:02:12 pm »

Techno-free Tuesday for me tomorrow also. I am a WW watcher. I think you all knowcwhat watcher does.

watch me do nothing if ya want, I'm all out of actions.
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Re: BMIX: Conspiracy Theories, London Edition (Day 3)
« Reply #555 on: April 08, 2013, 11:02:45 pm »

Am not caught up on last 3 pages, but for the record I think mcmc is likely werewolf, way more likely than Ashersky, and Ashersky is either playing scummily or poorly to want to vengekill him.
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Re: BMIX: Conspiracy Theories, London Edition (Day 3)
« Reply #556 on: April 08, 2013, 11:03:14 pm »

If we lynch mcmc, and I'm wrong, I think Razzishi and his crazy talk is our best chance at winning.

I think joth is telling the truth about Bomb.  No clue on WW, though.

Sweet, you've said it before I assume you will stand by it, I am a ww, and I am bulletproof. I do not think I will die from your vengekill. That proves my ww with one ww death(if ash is ww which I doubt) instead of lynching me and having two ww deaths(morgrim is ww if I am ww I wouldn't lie). So you are happy sacrificing yourself for ww's

Happily sacrificing?  That's a stretch.  I'm trying to decide if I care about winning more than proving all of you wrong.

VKing Morgrim gives me the satisfaction of killing you, pushing a terrible case on me.  But if you aren't lying by some crazy stretch, then VKing Morgrim hurts my chances of winning.

I'm able to change my VK up my lynch, I'm pretty sure.  I'm undecided, but it's posts like these that stress to me just how terrible a WW you are being this game, if you really are one (which I'm sure you are NOT).

YOUR GOING TO KILL 2 OF THEM AS A VENGEKILL AND I'M THE TERRIBLE WW!

I thought you said you were BP and could block my VK?

Why are you completely ignoring my case on you being cult and instead tunneling on me and trying to get me lynched?

That's a HUGE scum tell right there.  Caught, no defense, so deflecting instead.  Come on man, you must see how at the very least you SEEM to be caught.

remember I don't think your a ww, so I am happy to lynch you and watch you fail to nk me with your vengekill because I am a bp ww.

Okay: Vengekill: Morgrim7

Official in thread now.  Have fun.
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Re: BMIX: Conspiracy Theories, London Edition (Day 3)
« Reply #557 on: April 08, 2013, 11:04:13 pm »

Am not caught up on last 3 pages, but for the record I think mcmc is likely werewolf, way more likely than Ashersky, and Ashersky is either playing scummily or poorly to want to vengekill him.

Mcmc who claims BP/LP Recruiting Lover Pair when we have a confirmed Alarmist in the game is MORE likely town? 
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Re: BMIX: Conspiracy Theories, London Edition (Day 3)
« Reply #558 on: April 08, 2013, 11:05:09 pm »

Am not caught up on last 3 pages, but for the record I think mcmc is likely werewolf, way more likely than Ashersky, and Ashersky is either playing scummily or poorly to want to vengekill him.

Mcmc who claims BP/LP Recruiting Lover Pair when we have a confirmed Alarmist in the game is MORE likely town?

Alarmist means no cult, right???
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Re: BMIX: Conspiracy Theories, London Edition (Day 3)
« Reply #559 on: April 08, 2013, 11:05:56 pm »

Am not caught up on last 3 pages, but for the record I think mcmc is likely werewolf, way more likely than Ashersky, and Ashersky is either playing scummily or poorly to want to vengekill him.

Mcmc who claims BP/LP Recruiting Lover Pair when we have a confirmed Alarmist in the game is MORE likely town?

Alarmist means no cult, right???

Alarmist means CULT IN THE GAME.

Alarmists save people from joining cults.  That's their job.  So if there is no cult, Galz is a VT.  Seems MUCH more likely to be a cult.
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Re: BMIX: Conspiracy Theories, London Edition (Day 3)
« Reply #560 on: April 08, 2013, 11:07:36 pm »

ashersky..man this is outa hand. How am I caught, how have I slipped. I know that I will block your vengekill, but the fact remains you are trying to kill 2 ww's and you will now by vengekilling morgrim. So if your ww you are terrible, in fact probably a record for worst player ever, kill off 2 of your teammates.
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Re: BMIX: Conspiracy Theories, London Edition (Day 3)
« Reply #561 on: April 08, 2013, 11:08:06 pm »

Am not caught up on last 3 pages, but for the record I think mcmc is likely werewolf, way more likely than Ashersky, and Ashersky is either playing scummily or poorly to want to vengekill him.

Mcmc who claims BP/LP Recruiting Lover Pair when we have a confirmed Alarmist in the game is MORE likely town?

Alarmist means no cult, right???

Alarmist means CULT IN THE GAME.

Alarmists save people from joining cults.  That's their job.  So if there is no cult, Galz is a VT.  Seems MUCH more likely to be a cult.

he also said hes a regular doctor, you should really start reading.
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Re: BMIX: Conspiracy Theories, London Edition (Day 3)
« Reply #562 on: April 08, 2013, 11:08:53 pm »

Alarmist means CULT IN THE GAME.

Alarmists save people from joining cults.  That's their job.  So if there is no cult, Galz is a VT.  Seems MUCH more likely to be a cult.
From the Mafiascum Wiki:

"The presence of an Alarmist is a fairly clear indicator of either the existence of a Cult, or a moderator who likes toying with false positives. "

I think we all know what kind of mod eHalc is.
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Re: BMIX: Conspiracy Theories, London Edition (Day 3)
« Reply #563 on: April 08, 2013, 11:08:58 pm »

Am not caught up on last 3 pages, but for the record I think mcmc is likely werewolf, way more likely than Ashersky, and Ashersky is either playing scummily or poorly to want to vengekill him.

Mcmc who claims BP/LP Recruiting Lover Pair when we have a confirmed Alarmist in the game is MORE likely town?

Alarmist means no cult, right???

Alarmist means CULT IN THE GAME.

Alarmists save people from joining cults.  That's their job.  So if there is no cult, Galz is a VT.  Seems MUCH more likely to be a cult.

Oh right I was getting it backwards. Well I will have to reexamine some then, but mcmc and Jorbles were lovers, correct? And Jorbles was indeed WW rather than cult. Mcmc deserves a second look but it is NOT a foregone conclusion that he is cult, he seemed one of the very MOST likely to be WW in my initial read.
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Re: BMIX: Conspiracy Theories, London Edition (Day 3)
« Reply #564 on: April 08, 2013, 11:10:50 pm »

ashersky..man this is outa hand. How am I caught, how have I slipped. I know that I will block your vengekill, but the fact remains you are trying to kill 2 ww's and you will now by vengekilling morgrim. So if your ww you are terrible, in fact probably a record for worst player ever, kill off 2 of your teammates.

I have zero reason to believe you.  Zero.  We don't even know if you are Jorbles's lover.  We don't even know if there is a lover at all.

Jorbles died but no one else did.  That says to me that he was an unrequited lover, most likely.  So, Morgrim coming back to life means nothing (he's refused to claim WW, btw) and I possibly kill scum.

So, you claim an unconfirmable claim, add in all sorts of crazy stuff like recruiting and BP and daychat, and hope we all just fall for it.  But a Daychat Nightchat Neighborizing Bulletproof Lover and a Daychat Nightchat Neighborizing Lynchproof Lover?  I mean, come on man.  Read those role names.  THAT IS INSANE.  So you are making some of it up.
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Re: BMIX: Conspiracy Theories, London Edition (Day 3)
« Reply #565 on: April 08, 2013, 11:11:10 pm »

eHal, am I allowed to post my power requests PM to you?
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Re: BMIX: Conspiracy Theories, London Edition (Day 3)
« Reply #566 on: April 08, 2013, 11:12:52 pm »

I think we all know what kind of mod eHalc is.

You are absolutely right.

eHalcyon is quite possibly the smartest mod on f.ds.  I doubt anyone would argue with me on that.  He would have thought through EVERY SINGLE POSSIBLE angle before making a decision.  So Razzishi's claim that he solved the game by being recruited?  99.9% impossible, given what we know of eHalcyon.  Mcmc's claim of a Daychat Nightchat Neighborizing Lynchproof Lover?  Doesn't sound like eHalcyon to me.
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Re: BMIX: Conspiracy Theories, London Edition (Day 3)
« Reply #567 on: April 08, 2013, 11:13:24 pm »

eHal, am I allowed to post my power requests PM to you?

I 100% believe your Alarmist Doctor claim.  I know for a fact it is true.
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Re: BMIX: Conspiracy Theories, London Edition (Day 3)
« Reply #568 on: April 08, 2013, 11:13:43 pm »

Ashersky, you're tunneling. It's like you and Volt way back when. I do believe you have a Vengekill. I do believe you might be WW. But I strongly believe that Mcmc is what he claims. If there's a Cult, it's Archetype.
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« Reply #569 on: April 08, 2013, 11:14:09 pm »

Razz is also a WW (which I guessed yesterday). As am I. I had no knowledge of anybody else's alignment to start the game.

My full role is WW Alarmist Doctor. Alarmist (look it up) being a role that cries Cult when there isn't actually one in existence. And while I DO Doctor against Cult Conversion, I also Doctor normally (can be separate targets, although I've kept them the same each night). Why Jorbles died though is beyond me.

This is for the rest of the town to read as I'm sure ash will ignor it and just say I am cult. I am still fine with lynching ash because I am sick of the way he is playing and I know for a fact he is going to hurt the ww's which is my team. That being said I loggically want to lynch spiritbears as I am pretty sure hes not ww.

ppe: I am making ABSOLUTELY ZERO % of that up. Jorbles is my lypchproof ww lover, I am a bulletproof ww lover. We have a neighborhood with day and night chat. I invited robz to it on night 2. That is the end of our adding to the neighborhood as well. Additional information, morgrim is my lynchproof ww lover now that he has replaced jorbles and has acces to the neihborhood.
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Re: BMIX: Conspiracy Theories, London Edition (Day 3)
« Reply #570 on: April 08, 2013, 11:14:13 pm »

eHal, am I allowed to post my power requests PM to you?

No quoting your role PM.  This is just to make it easier with regards to my writing style.  You may claim, you may paraphrase, but you may not quote.

I am going to apply the same thing.  You may paraphrase but you may not quote.
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Re: BMIX: Conspiracy Theories, London Edition (Day 3)
« Reply #571 on: April 08, 2013, 11:15:59 pm »

eHal, am I allowed to post my power requests PM to you?

I 100% believe your Alarmist Doctor claim.  I know for a fact it is true.

Yes, but how I requested the role might impact the belief in there being scum.

Knowing it was a Bastard game, I sent in like... 15 different bastard roles. The one that contained Alarmist ALSO asked for no Cult in game, because, c'mon, what's more bastardly than that?
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Re: BMIX: Conspiracy Theories, London Edition (Day 3)
« Reply #572 on: April 08, 2013, 11:16:53 pm »

Ashersky, you're tunneling. It's like you and Volt way back when. I do believe you have a Vengekill. I do believe you might be WW. But I strongly believe that Mcmc is what he claims. If there's a Cult, it's Archetype.
Exactly.

So go ahead and point that Venge kill on me, ashersky. I don't care one bit.
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Re: BMIX: Conspiracy Theories, London Edition (Day 3)
« Reply #573 on: April 08, 2013, 11:17:01 pm »

I think we all know what kind of mod eHalc is.

You are absolutely right.

eHalcyon is quite possibly the smartest mod on f.ds.  I doubt anyone would argue with me on that.  He would have thought through EVERY SINGLE POSSIBLE angle before making a decision.  So Razzishi's claim that he solved the game by being recruited?  99.9% impossible, given what we know of eHalcyon.  Mcmc's claim of a Daychat Nightchat Neighborizing Lynchproof Lover?  Doesn't sound like eHalcyon to me.

I think you overestimate me, but I appreciate it.  +10 conspiracy points to you.  Also, +20 conspiracy points to joth for his analysis of today's theme song.  Unfortunately, the points are only useful for bolstering your score in "Whose Line Is It Anyway?".
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Re: BMIX: Conspiracy Theories, London Edition (Day 3)
« Reply #574 on: April 08, 2013, 11:17:38 pm »

Additional information, morgrim is my lynchproof ww lover now that he has replaced jorbles and has acces to the neihborhood.

Here's the problem.

Jorbles is lynched--he doesn't die.  Mcmc doesn't die.  Okay so far.
Jorbles is nightkilled--he dies and is confirmed to be a lover.  No one else is dead.  Morgrim is resurrected.

So, it looks like Jorbles had no lover.  Because that lover would haved died the moment Jorbles did, before Morgrim was resurrected.  If mcmc is in love with Jorbles to the point where he would suicide upon his death, no way some random Morgzombie keeps him from following through with it.  Lovers die when the other dies.  Arch and I know this from BM5.
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