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[Dsell]

Ok, I got interrupted while making that post and I am super busy tonight, there is no way I can keep up at this pace. I will catch up at some point.

[mcmcsalot]

oooh, ooh, can we lynch ash now

[mcmcsalot]

vote ashersky, also vote count please

[ashersky]

If someone that has any semblance of being towny actually things we should claim, I can start it.

But SK Archetype and lying Raz I will not follow.

[ashersky]

oooh, ooh, can we lynch ash now

You really don't believe you're dying with me?

A vengekill isn't a gunshot, so bulletproof won't save you.

Mod: please confirm that bulletproof doesn't stop vengekills.  This is a mechanics question, not a set-up question.

[Razzishi]

That is, I think it is in the WWs best interest to lynch ashersky tonight.  Even though they aren't CT, the CT are harmless and we can lynch them all later.  Even if they recruit ashersky after we lynch them, they'll have 4.  We have eevee, Arch, Dsell, me, and mail-mi at least after askersky kills off mcmc and morgrim.

Yes, the WWs being able to recruit a CT is massively imbalanced once the WW group with the CT realizes they can claim, but this setup is so bastard that I don't think Arch expected us to claim this early.  And I wasn't going to until I needed to in case there was even more setup weirdness, but I was pretty much forced to.

[ashersky]

That is, I think it is in the WWs best interest to lynch ashersky tonight.  Even though they aren't CT, the CT are harmless and we can lynch them all later.  Even if they recruit ashersky after we lynch them, they'll have 4.  We have eevee, Arch, Dsell, me, and mail-mi at least after askersky kills off mcmc and morgrim.

Yes, the WWs being able to recruit a CT is massively imbalanced once the WW group with the CT realizes they can claim, but this setup is so bastard that I don't think Arch expected us to claim this early.  And I wasn't going to until I needed to in case there was even more setup weirdness, but I was pretty much forced to.

You screwed up all your names there.  "I don't think Arch expected us to claim this early."  You mean eHal?

If you believe everyone on your list is a WW, then we have currently:

Eevee, Archetype, Razzishi, Mail-Mi, Ashersky, Mcmcsalot, Morgrim, Galzria out of 14.  You claim 4 CTs are remaining.  And the other two?

Your story doesn't work, man.  The numbers don't add up, especially if you don't include claimants like me and Galz.

[ashersky]

That is, I think it is in the WWs best interest to lynch ashersky tonight.  Even though they aren't CT, the CT are harmless and we can lynch them all later.  Even if they recruit ashersky after we lynch them, they'll have 4.  We have eevee, Arch, Dsell, me, and mail-mi at least after askersky kills off mcmc and morgrim.

Yes, the WWs being able to recruit a CT is massively imbalanced once the WW group with the CT realizes they can claim, but this setup is so bastard that I don't think Arch expected us to claim this early.  And I wasn't going to until I needed to in case there was even more setup weirdness, but I was pretty much forced to.

Also, how can you lynch at night?  Another power we don't know about?

[eHalcyon]

oooh, ooh, can we lynch ash now

You really don't believe you're dying with me?

A vengekill isn't a gunshot, so bulletproof won't save you.

Mod: please confirm that bulletproof doesn't stop vengekills.  This is a mechanics question, not a set-up question.

For questions like this, I will do it the Dominion way and follow the role descriptions as I have written them.  If that's not possible, I will be a bastard and make a command decision as I see fit.  That's all I'll say on the matter.

I'll do another vote count.  You guys are making it hard for me to stay away.

[liopoil]

Stop voting!!! archetype is not SK. he targetter razzishi N1, nobody else. I'm probably going to fullclaim. is that okay guys?

[ashersky]

Stop voting!!! archetype is not SK. he targetter razzishi N1, nobody else. I'm probably going to fullclaim. is that okay guys?

Arch could be cult leader, recruited razzishi N1.

[Razzishi]

Hmm, if ashersky keeps vengeful and the NK, maybe we do need to keep him alive so that the CTs can't recruit them.  I don't think we can afford lynching ashersky over and over again if they take one of us with them.

unvote
vote: spiritbears

I already put out there everything I know.  If I die to NK, you won't really have lost anything but you will have gained information that I am a CT.

By "tonight" I meant toDay.  It's physically night here and I'm tired, sorry.

[mcmcsalot]

I will be fine lynching sb, I also think he isn't ww.

[ashersky]

oooh, ooh, can we lynch ash now

You really don't believe you're dying with me?

A vengekill isn't a gunshot, so bulletproof won't save you.

Mod: please confirm that bulletproof doesn't stop vengekills.  This is a mechanics question, not a set-up question.

For questions like this, I will do it the Dominion way and follow the role descriptions as I have written them.  If that's not possible, I will be a bastard and make a command decision as I see fit.  That's all I'll say on the matter.

I'll do another vote count.  You guys are making it hard for me to stay away.

Huh.  Changed my VK to Morgrim to be safe.  Should still take out Mcmc then, if the Lovers role PM was written in any normal way.

[Razzishi]

Yeah I should probably not post at the rate of this thread and just leave it for tonight.  Making a lot of stupid typos that aren't making my case any better.  Just lynching off CTs is fine, but I'm pretty convinced ashersky is SK. 

[mcmcsalot]

oooh, ooh, can we lynch ash now

You really don't believe you're dying with me?

A vengekill isn't a gunshot, so bulletproof won't save you.

Mod: please confirm that bulletproof doesn't stop vengekills.  This is a mechanics question, not a set-up question.

For questions like this, I will do it the Dominion way and follow the role descriptions as I have written them.  If that's not possible, I will be a bastard and make a command decision as I see fit.  That's all I'll say on the matter.

I'll do another vote count.  You guys are making it hard for me to stay away.

Huh.  Changed my VK to Morgrim to be safe.  Should still take out Mcmc then, if the Lovers role PM was written in any normal way.

So what, ash you actually think I'm a cult leader? that recruited who jorbles? morgrim? robz?

[mcmcsalot]

You think I'm a bulletproof cult leader whos lovers with a lynchproof ww?

[eHalcyon]

Vote Count 3.3

Archetype (1): Axxle
ashersky (3): mcmcsalot, Archetype, Morgrim7
mcmcsalot (3): ashersky, liopoil, spiritbears
spiritbears (2): Galzria, Razzishi

Not voting (5): Dsell, Eevee, jotheonah, mail-mi, Robz888

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.

hard deadline is Thursday May 9, 12:00am MDT

[jotheonah]

Wow. I missed a lot. SHould I claim? WW Bomb. Requested a passive role because I knew I wouldn't have reliable access, which is how I got bomb? Not sure what Razzishi's game is, but I guess it makes sense to include the guy who's not posting very much on your fake scum team. I would.

[Archetype]

Vote: ashersky

I really hope you don't die mcmcsalot.

[ashersky]

You think I'm a bulletproof cult leader whos lovers with a lynchproof ww?

Let me rethink this.

I think you are probably lying.  If you are lying, you are the Cult Leader, or at least able to recruit to the Cult.  I believe there is a Cult because I know that Galzria is telling the truth about being an Alarmist Doctor.  Therefore, the theory that you are cult, and NOT WW, is viable.

Because of this, I want to lynch you.  That will tell us in the most efficient way.

Because I'm less likely to be believed because I'm ashersky, I'm using the tools at my disposal to try to help town win.  One tool is my vengekill.

I've changed my VK target back to mcmc, for 2 reasons:

1) I think you are lying and not a WW.  That would make you (hopefully) not BP, and (probably) Cult.
2) If I am wrong, and you are NOT lying, then you are BP, and from eHalcyon's evasive, BM answers, you won't die from my VK.  And if you are telling the truth about BP, then you are at least somewhat more likely to be telling the truth about everything else.

So, this seems to be the safest, best use of my VK.

[ashersky]

If we lynch mcmc, and I'm wrong, I think Razzishi and his crazy talk is our best chance at winning.

I think joth is telling the truth about Bomb.  No clue on WW, though.

[mcmcsalot]

If we lynch mcmc, and I'm wrong, I think Razzishi and his crazy talk is our best chance at winning.

I think joth is telling the truth about Bomb.  No clue on WW, though.

Sweet, you've said it before I assume you will stand by it, I am a ww, and I am bulletproof. I do not think I will die from your vengekill. That proves my ww with one ww death(if ash is ww which I doubt) instead of lynching me and having two ww deaths(morgrim is ww if I am ww I wouldn't lie). So you are happy sacrificing yourself for ww's

[liopoil]

I want to hear from robz. get in here robz!! In the meantime, STOP VOTING! we are massclaiming. there are lots of people we haven't heard from yet.

[eHalcyon]

I intend to be fully offline for most of Tuesday and probably a good portion of Wednesday.  I tried to stay away from the forums today and I failed pretty hard... and it's pressing enough that I will work much harder at it tomorrow.  Just a heads up.