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[Twistedarcher]

Fixed bolding.
Alright.

Did you perform a night action that would prevent Destierro killing Axxle on either N1 or N2?

Twistedarcher: No
Destierro: No
Axxle2: Yes
Robz : ?
Eevee: ?
Sudgy: ?
Werothegreat: ?
Mcmcsalot: ?
Spiritbears: ?

There's no reason for anyone to cover for Axxle here. Unless it's a mafia covering for a SK, in which case, we've got them both linked together.
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[Robz888]

Hold on hold on.

[Robz888]

I'm not sure we need to do this.

[Twistedarcher]

Don't answer yet.

Why not?

[Robz888]

We can if you want, but... we should probably just assume Axxle is a Town Roleblocker for the moment. Nothing else really makes sense.

Des is not the last mafia, then (in all likelihood). If he is SK, that's fine to deal with later anyway, when presumably we have more evidence of a SK (like, if the game doesn't end when we kill the third mafia, or if there are two kills, or something).

So if we exempt Axxle and Des, as I believe we should, wero is the next best lynch.

He hammered WS, the goon, which I believe was a bus--WS was definitely going to be lynched at that point. He did not bus mail-mi, the godfather, but later broke the rules to work in a defense of that. Otherwise he tunneled liopoil, a townie.

TA, we can do this "did you do something?" claim if you think we should. But I personally don't think it's necessary. It would out another RB or Doctor or something, maybe.

Vote: werothegreat

[Robz888]

I'm saying I think the best move is to assume Axxle is a Town Roleblocker and Des a non-mafia, and that's really good enough at this point. We could definitively prove that at the cost of outing another PR, but I don't think it's worth it. You see what I am saying?

[Destierro]

I agree with robz. It would out our power roles unnecessarily, without giving us any helpful info.

[Twistedarcher]

I don't think we'd out a doctor -- once again, I see absolutely no reason why someone would doctor Axxle (although, if someone did, well done I suppose).

The only person we'd risk outing, with that in mind, is a second roleblocker. And, at that point, if we've already outted one roleblocker, is there really a point in outing a second? Especially if it's a 1-shot, who at that point would be just another VT.

I do see what you're saying, but I don't think this has that high odds of outing a useful power role. But I'm fine with making the assumption to believe Axxle -- I don't want to lynch him anymore.

[Twistedarcher]

I agree with robz. It would out our power roles unnecessarily, without giving us any helpful info.

Making Axxle obvtown would be very helpful to town.

[Twistedarcher]

I'm saying I think the best move is to assume Axxle is a Town Roleblocker and Des a non-mafia, and that's really good enough at this point. We could definitively prove that at the cost of outing another PR, but I don't think it's worth it. You see what I am saying?

Actually, the way we prove this is by everyone answering "no". Which wouldn't out anyone.

If someone answers "yes", we then have reason to believe that Axxle is very possibly scum. In that case, both the bulletproof SK and the mafia roleblocker would fit.

So we wouldn't be outting a PR to confirm Axxle as town. We'd be outting a PR to possibly implicate Axxle. But you may be right that possibly implicating Axxle isn't a strong enough outcome to be worth it.

[Robz888]

What if somebody else blocked Des? Then we would out that person and still not know whether Axxle is who we says he is.

Again, I think we should just assume Axxle is town for this lynch.

[Twistedarcher]

Fair enough. I guess there's enough questions that it's not worth it, at least not today.

Given what's come up, I don't think an Axxle lynch or a Destierro lynch is a good idea. Eevee, Sudgy, and Mcmc were on both wagons, so not sure about those lynches, either. That leaves Wero, spiritbears, and Robz.

[Axxle2]

I'm going through all the possibilities, and it seems very very likely we've won this as long as Dest and I coordinate our powers.

[Axxle2]

Lynch wero, vig spirit, block robz sound good?

[Robz888]

Lynch wero, vig spirit, block robz sound good?

That goes really amiss though if Des is an SK rather than a vig, you see?

[Axxle2]

Lynch wero, vig spirit, block robz sound good?

That goes really amiss though if Des is an SK rather than a vig, you see?

It will be painfully obvious whether he is an sk or not once we know all the PRs.

[Twistedarcher]

I'm not so sure that we want Des to vig someone tonight.

[werothegreat]

Wait, why are you voting for me?

[Axxle2]

I'm not so sure that we want Des to vig someone tonight.

An extra town controlled kill is super useful.

[Twistedarcher]

Lynch wero, vig spirit, block robz sound good?

That goes really amiss though if Des is an SK rather than a vig, you see?

It will be painfully obvious whether he is an sk or not once we know all the PRs.

No, it won't be. What if we have a second vig claim? What if we have a second roleblocker claim? A cop? These are all claims that would take up two letters. How would we be able to tell truth from lie?

[Twistedarcher]

I'm not so sure that we want Des to vig someone tonight.

An extra town controlled kill is super useful.

There's a difference between town-controlled and town-verifiable. Lynches are town-verifiable. NKs by a vig who we are not 100% certain is actually a vig aren't.

[Robz888]

Axxle, given that you roleblocked Des, it is equally likely that he is an SK as a town Vig. If he is an SK, he will majorly screw up that plan.

[Robz888]

Wait, why are you voting for me?

Seriously?

[Axxle2]

Lynch wero, vig spirit, block robz sound good?

That goes really amiss though if Des is an SK rather than a vig, you see?

It will be painfully obvious whether he is an sk or not once we know all the PRs.

No, it won't be. What if we have a second vig claim? What if we have a second roleblocker claim? A cop? These are all claims that would take up two letters. How would we be able to tell truth from lie?

That's one benefit of the massclaim, so we know these edge cases now and know that the SK is one or the other.

[Twistedarcher]

Lynch wero, vig spirit, block robz sound good?

That goes really amiss though if Des is an SK rather than a vig, you see?

It will be painfully obvious whether he is an sk or not once we know all the PRs.

No, it won't be. What if we have a second vig claim? What if we have a second roleblocker claim? A cop? These are all claims that would take up two letters. How would we be able to tell truth from lie?

That's one benefit of the massclaim, so we know these edge cases now and know that the SK is one or the other.

Right, but it's probably going to end up that we know that the SK (if he even exists!!) is one or the other or the other or the other. It's not likely to get down to where it's one person or the other.